2014/04/18 23:06:13
Chris Johnson
I tie my weenies with white chenille and spray em with wd40 after every cast.
2014/04/19 09:25:50
workcanwait....
mote1977
workcanwait....
Another thing I noticed is people fishing with emerald shiners outside of Erie Tribs clueless about the regs...tried explaining it a few times but most were numb to the facts.Problem as I see it is baitshops far away from lake selling emeralds and not explaining where they can and can not be used.Tonites rant is dun' sory 2 bug ya'WCW 

There's no law against using emeralds outside of the Erie tribs.

When I read this I assume emeralds would be included.
Are they being raised elsewhere-I assume the bait shops get them from Lake Erie.I do not claim to know all please correct me if I am wrong.
Do the bait shops somehow get them certified VHS negative hows that work?
WCW
Additional Regulations
Viral Hemorrhagic Septicemia Virus (VHS) - An infectious fish disease, caused by a variant of Viral Hemorrhagic Septicemia Virus (VHS), has caused fish mortalities in the Great Lakes. The initial list of fish species that are susceptible to VHS includes black crappie, bluegill, bluntnose minnow, brown bullhead, brown trout, burbot, channel catfish, chinook salmon, coho salmon, emerald shiner, freshwater drum, gizzard shad, herring, largemouth bass, muskellunge, northern pike, pink salmon, pumpkinseed, rainbow trout, redhorse sucker, rock bass, smallmouth bass, walleye, white bass, white perch, whitefish and yellow perch.
It is unlawful to transport or cause the transportation of VHS-susceptible species of fish out of the portion of the Lake Erie Watershed in this Commonwealth into other watersheds of this Commonwealth except when certain conditions are met. It is illegal to use VHS-susceptible fish species, fish parts and eggs taken from the Lake Erie Watershed as fishbait in Commonwealth waters outside the Lake Erie Watershed except when the fish are certified as VHS-negative. It is legal to transport dead recreationally caught fish out of the Lake Erie Watershed solely for the purpose of human consumption.
Because of diseases and invasive species, the Commission recommends as a good conservation practice that anglers not transport any live fish out of the Lake Erie Watershed and introduce those fish into other watersheds. For more information on invasive species, please see “Stop Aquatic Nuisance Species.” For more information on VHS, please contact the Commission’s Northwest Regional Office.
2014/04/19 11:17:20
jspencer951
I wish there was a "like" button on this site....
2014/04/19 12:17:55
solitario lupo
 
Do the bait shops somehow get them certified VHS negative hows that work?
WCW

When I was fishing chataqua lake in ny and bought some shiners. The lady at the bait shop said I had to carry the reciept with me just in case i was stopped. I asked y and she said at the bottom it showed i bought them there and they were vhs free. My guess is bait shops have there own.
2014/04/19 12:45:21
workcanwait....
solitario lupo
 
Do the bait shops somehow get them certified VHS negative hows that work?
WCW

When I was fishing chataqua lake in ny and bought some shiners. The lady at the bait shop said I had to carry the reciept with me just in case i was stopped. I asked y and she said at the bottom it showed i bought them there and they were vhs free. My guess is bait shops have there own.
Yeah I think I get it now...
I guese I was the one NUMB to the FACTS-MY BAD!
Still livin en' learning.
Personally I prefer fatheads and do not do a lot of lake fishing.
WCW
 
 




2014/04/19 14:29:12
pikepredator2
this is exactly why i don't even think of hitting the streams until the beginning of june.  lets the numbnuts clear out and have the stream all to myself.
2014/04/19 16:59:18
Dr. Trout
many places around here are selling "emeralds" that come from Ohio and are certified....
2014/04/19 23:49:06
workcanwait....
Ok so I learned me sumthing again from Fish Erie Forums.
Thank u for correcting me and putting me back on course!
My next question to uAll would be do emeralds exist in the wild roud her' other than Lake Erie??? 
Just curious and I know there are regulars on here with the correct anser'.
I grew up in NEPA baitshops only sold fatheads and goldens maybe that will explain my ignorance...but there is probably more 2 it since I am a local here now in NWPA.
If I bug any of you sorry but this site does teach me a thing or two and makes me laugh once in a while so ur' gunna have 2 deal with me 4 now.
I am itching to toss sum dries at sum trout if anyone wants to give me a heads up on current activity I would appreciate it-STRICTLY C&R when I play that game no worries about me thinning the pod.
WCW
 
2014/04/21 15:07:18
Jester2
Thanks all for the entertaining thread.  Trolled site, but haven't posted much.  The Allegheny River watershed has naturally occurring Emerald Shiners.  I have no idea how/if bait shops regulate the source of the bait fish sold in certain drainage basins.  Believed that bringing extra bait home to the Allegheny watershed purchased in Lake Erie watershed was prohibited.  Certainly no prohibition from using a shiner that is legally trapped/seined in the watershed from which it was pulled. 
 
On the Corn front, you're all missing the boat, I have a Whole Kernel Corn fly that works wonders in the DHALO streams I fish--trails only the Fish Pellet Fly, w/ my San Juan Worms and Egg Flies a distant 3rd and 4th respectively.  Purist I'm not . . .but fear not, they are all tied w/ barbless hooks:-)
2014/04/21 18:43:45
DarDys
We used to chum carp on the Juniata with corn and then use a yellow deer hair "corn" fly.

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