Well since it was packed with local families I take it the food has improved.Years ago I had one of the worst dinners in my life in that place,never tried that again but before that I used to go in there for lunch and then gave that up because the grease content of everything was sure to shorten my life.

I'll agree that the food has a high fat content but then so does most "comfort" food.  Always found that the Altmar could fill the hole well for the money, and I'd still be able to hit the river in the AM.  Agree with Dime about the new owner's, I met them not long after they took over and they were very nice and friendly.  You could do a lot worse than having the Altmar for neighbors, and for a living room and kitchen away from the house.  I don't remember the juke box, but I'm half deaf from standing in front of a cranked Fender in C+W joints for the better half of my early years.
 
If you look on the Tailwater's menu, it is a lot of chic and trendy après fishing food, 8 oz steak, 10 oz steak, etc. That cuts it for me when I am home, but I might be able to put away 2 after a full day on the river.  No prices posted, if you have to ask, you can't afford it or can't write it off!  My concern is that if they can pull $179 a night how long before the next best room is 85 or 90?  I personally think the NR license should have doubled, lord knows we residents are footing huge tax burdens that are pretty transparent to non residents, but this is all part of Andy's scheme to sell the state to the rest of the world rather than cut down on the massive giveaways and pork programs.
 
IMHO...
 
L13 

Think its all bout expectations and convenience.
    Before buying a place up there I always stayed in hotels and paying bout 75 a night became the norm and that was 7 or 8 years ago.. Then ya drive out for food and drive out to fish and drive out for tackle drive out if ya want a drink or to get outa the tiny (generally shared) room.
 There is a lot to be said for a lot of folks to park the car and have it all right there. With a group if one wants to quit for a while- no issues with driving- he just walks back to the room, if guys wanna sleep in and meet on the river- no problem. Convenience------
 Heck --less that 200 for a room in most vacation places is often considered a deal unless ya  stay a mile or two away from the action.
 Think the real issue for many here  is the closure of more river to the public- couldn't agree more.

River closure is definitely the issue...

I did hear a rumor from a second hand source that they owned the north side bank property also but as we all know there is a public fishing easement on that side... if true... what happens if they build a lodge or cabins on that side... folks staying there would have the north bank lined up before the average Joe comes down... now that would get ugly!!!

Lucky, fender is the ****!!! I learned to play on the original fender super champ on my mothers fender strat plus... at age 13 I cashed in savings bonds of mine and purchased a used fender twin that had built in 2*12 speakers with a sickening reverb... my stupid butt cut the speakers off in my mid teens and stacked it on top of a Marshall 4*12... it was quite a stack up... especially when run through 2- 4*12's at once... still have the head to this day... the reverb tray is long gone with time... that is my biggest regret for cutting it up... because I've never heard reverb like the fender twin... oh yeah, except for the twin reverb series... but that was clean channel only with no distortion ;)

I think I'd rather stay at one of the DSR houses if I had a group of 3 to 6.  You get passes for check in day and check out day....That makes is a great deal, imo...

g2  the access is certainly  a poke in the eye but that doesn't change that for most fishermen there a a room for 2 for around $50 is the price point.
I doubt that having that small piece of private heaven will not keep the high rollers and write off wizards coming back to Altmar.
With a bunch off pisttt off regulars across the river doing everything they can to make their day miserable.
 
Since most of the people that would go there on any regular basis will be getting rowed around by the guides that own the river I think it would be in their best interest to open access up and try to keep animosity to a minimum if they are interested in the long run..
Never really fished that area much myself because of the crowding so it has little affect on my life.
 
 
Reading their site it seems snagging (even of salmon) is frowned upon in the DSR.

DB-
 
Twin reverbs distort nicely on both channels, reverb or no reverb, but at 100 watts RMS, you have to push the amp into levels that puncture most eardrums!
 
You don't want to be checking Vintage Guitar to see what a pre reverb twin sells for now in original condition, the pain will be overwhelming!
 
But we digress (not the first to do it on these boards LOL!)
 
L13  

How much does a cowbell in original condition go for?
I've got a fever only more cowbell can cure.

We are ordering pizza and wings on way off ice for championship Sunday .:) can't beat the food, crowds and fishing not so bad . G bless Altmar

dimebrite2
River closure is definitely the issue...

I did hear a rumor from a second hand source that they owned the north side bank property also but as we all know there is a public fishing easement on that side... if true... what happens if they build a lodge or cabins on that side... folks staying there would have the north bank lined up before the average Joe comes down... now that would get ugly!!

That would explain alot with the maps and such as originally the school DID NOT own to the center, but now they do. 
As far as the average Joe getting down there it is my experience that Joe will get up earlier and have his spot before inmate 203 who will want to sit down to a  nice breakfast and  EXPECT a spot.  Now will they have people down there at first light saving spots................
At that price I would expect that concierge service