2016/10/13 00:49:19
Big Tuna
That Rage hole in my son Pa. buck is more than a slit. It's a freaking gaping hole. Two blade chisel head. Great heads just got to hit deer right. Any broadhead will work when put in the right place, I killed 26 deer with those old mini blasters. Not many pass throughs and little blood,but they worked. I'd never go back though.
2016/10/13 11:06:00
thunderpole
I was about 16 feet up with about a 420 grain arrow 125 tip , shooting 70# out a definite turbo I have have punched the realise it seams like everything happened so fast and yes we looked about 7 hrs yesterday walked a lot to no avail I'm hopeing he's alive I'm not one to give up I'll keep looking I shed hunt a lot there to he may turn up dead or alive I definitely wanna find him ,and it's not like I did anything wrong tracking he had ample time to die, iv shoot everyday I like shooting my bow I feel like a pos cuz I had my chance finally on a good buck and I blew it, PS this mornings duck hunt was a bust killed 2 Woodies
2016/10/13 12:06:30
Big Tuna
I feel with you Thunderpole. About ten years ago I smoked a fringing unbelievable huge monster 10 pts in Ohio. I've seen some big ones but he was the king. Well into the 170 class, did even worse,bumped him out of his bed. Then never a drop of blood. Looked for a dead body that whole season never found him or heard anybody taking him. It's a learning lesson.
 
2016/10/13 12:52:02
BeenThereDoneThat.
Given your height 16' (a) from the ground and the target distance (b) of 30yds;  distance to target(c) would be thirty yards (+/-).   However,  for shooting a arrow down hill, the estimation is 25.4 yds (adt (actual distance traveled)).
 
Not trying to get all scientific here, just trying to explain why archers shoot over or, hit their target higher then expected.
 
 
The above rules have been violated at one time or another, by the best of archers in the height of excitement when seeing, in their eyes, a trophy.  Some of these mistakes have resulted in clean misses and many have resulted in wounded animals, recovered or not.   Feeling like POS is a good sign, it let's oneself know we care so we don't make the same mistake.  It's dwelling on the feeling or problem, that will cause us to make the same mistake.   If I believed the story I would say you and your buddies have given 110%  with recovery efforts and that you, have learned a vital lesson of which you hope to never make again.  Also, a good lesson for those thinking it won't happen to them..........
 
PS. If it were me, following any rain, I'd be back hunting in the area..... and it wouldn't be ducks.  After all, we know what they say in the old country about falling off a horse?
 
Good luck.
2016/10/13 14:03:05
r3g3
Watched an arrow hit high some years back in similar circumstances- Same thing, greasy arrow with no blood-had also seen the arrow tip an unseen twig on the way to the deer. Hit further back than I wanted and quite high. That greasy stuff is from the thin layer of fat along the back and likely closer to the rear end of the deer where its a bit heavier- IMHO.
 
Tracked VERY slowly for some time and then saw 3 deer in the distance and one of them rolled onto its back and twisted all over the place. Kinda like a bear might rub its back on a tree while standing.
After they moved off I went over there to find NO BLOOD but lots of hair where the deer had rolled over and rubbed.
With that hit its likely not dead but carries a non life threatening wound- keep looking though.
 
A friend hit a fine buck early morning last season and the arrow appeared to him to be mid body and a bit far back. Little to no blood and the Deer ran off looking fine- He tracked for hours and looked all day. Was as disgusted as you are.
 
Several days later from the same stand he took that same buck as it chased a doe.
It had  HUGE open wound on a rear quarter that ya would think woulda laid him up and gave him no toughts what so ever of chasing does.
This guy has taken dozens with the bow and had no idea he had struck so far back. Swore it was mid body.
 
Remember their nervous system is nowhere near as advanced as ours. Some wounds that would lay us up for months, they are marginally aware of.
 
Understandably ya feel lousy but don't give up on never seeing that deer again.
 
Too bad , but loosing one is a part of the game we play and it happens to most everyone sooner or later.
We are the predators.
BTW have see it take much more than 40 yds to start bleeding- sometimes nothing and then suddenly a torrent- especially with a high one lung shot.
2016/10/13 16:19:00
thunderpole
Yea I'll be back out come the end of October I'm ashamed of myself I put so much work into this year "to put one on the wall" and I blew it, not only am I upset about not killing the deer I blew the whole are and his core area out and btw had I waited I may have had the chance on his buddy who is a solid 140-150 class..... aggggh just once I wanted to get tagged out early to focus on ducks and not every minute in a tree. Guess I kinda got my wish I have time to hunt ducks. I am really happy to see the fruits of my labor actually be there where I thought he would be and the hr walks into my stands turn up yielding a worthy shooter.But my walls still empty tonight should be a good night good luck out there gents
2016/10/13 16:26:01
thunderpole
I'd say your bows out of tune iv never had issues with gage blood runners rages muzzy steelforce montecs or these drts ,if your bow is tuned correctly any bh will fly true
2016/10/13 16:42:04
outasync
Yeah what bugs me is the practice tips and field Points fly true. I have 4 pins 10, 20, 30, 40. The 10 is now good out to 25 the 20 is dead on at 25 and 30 is dead on. No clue where to start. Maybe shoot paper to see what's going on
2016/10/13 18:50:10
S-10
You can hit them high over the lungs but under the backbone and get very little blood and the deer will live to fight another day. I shot one that way with a thunderhead the 4th week of season one year and killed him during rifle season chasing a doe. If you don't get pass through  most of  the blood stays in the body cavity even if he is lung shot.
2016/10/13 19:41:25
thunderpole
outasync
Yeah what bugs me is the practice tips and field Points fly true. I have 4 pins 10, 20, 30, 40. The 10 is now good out to 25 the 20 is dead on at 25 and 30 is dead on. No clue where to start. Maybe shoot paper to see what's going on
I switched over to a single pin adjustable this year ,no turning back for Mr no pin clutter. Set it at whatever distance your gonna shoot woods 20-25 and in the field if you can shoot 40 you have time to adjust wasn't sure how I would like it but I love it

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