That, its what everyone else was doing and I had to get my fly back are the 3 biggest cop outs used by snaggers.
Still not saying you are a snagger but the hole keeps getting deeper.
 
I don't have nearly as much time as I used to but if I were convinced you really wanted to FAIRLY fish for salmon I would tie a couple flies for you.
They work!
I go days sometimes without a bite but when I hook up I am sure it was a taker not a lined fish.
Its called fishing not catching.
 
 

Well I just returned from my fifth trip to the SR since Labor Day weekend.  This trip cost me $600+ since I hired a guide and I had two fish on....It is fishing, not catching, as you say.  But, I expected a lot more strikes over 7-1/2 hours.  If anyone is going up this weekend, I would fish around Altmar as it seems the high flows allowed the fish to push high up...I had no strikes beyond 200 yards downstream of the Altmar bridge.
 

That's a BS report, as the DSR reportedly  was on fire and the people I talked to from a local fly shop that went Fri. and Sat. morning got fish mid-river.  They had good days. One, just down river form your take-out.  You're guide isn't a flyfisherman, he's good with noodle rods and sacks. I imagine you didn't use them. Did you use lots of shot and stoneflies? You probably had the fish fouled and that's why they broke off.  It takes a lot more actual skill to find fish in the colder water, so instead of trolling for arguments, you might try to learn from some of the people here and put your arrogant attitude aside.  If you used that attitude on the guide you got exactly the trip you deserved. I highly expect that was the case. Guides expect people to follow instruction, take constructive criticism, and be open to new techniques. Had you asked polite questions and acted like a decent guy here, you might've done better fishing with one of us or got enough advice to go on your own. If you go in with "I expect lots of fish and I'll do it my way"  you'll get your way, but not the fish. The SR is a  different river in the winter. Drifting  a big hook through any old  water will be very unproductive.  By the way, lots of times 2 fish on is considered not that bad a day for this time of year. If you're swinging flies for the thrill of the take, it would be average. The SR in winter isn't for you, I expect. 

Fichy, your post is wrong and pointless in so many ways, I don't know where to start.  We didn't float in the DSR so saying there were a lot of steelhead in the DSR is pointless.  I don't know how you inferred anything from my post above yours that allowed you to go on such a rant.  There was no attitude in my post.  The two hookups I had were on his rig, so he knew what he was doing.  The lost fish were my fault as I had the fly line pinned against the cork handle instead of the reel and pulled too hard on the second.  The hookups happened so fast, I didn't react fast enough or in the proper manner.  The guide said that the high flows above 3000 cfs may have sucked all the steelhead up to Altmar and I think he had a point.  I got to see a lot more of the SR using a guide, so that was good.  Given the 1200 mile round trip and money spent, more hookups would have been welcome.  The elements didn't bother me at all.

You advised people to fish upriver, that all the fish were there. That's not true as other reports indicate. It's misinformation.   You've had plenty of attitude in the past and  seem to not mind snagging techniques (the whole point of this thread) which you've now probably  learned another one- chuck and duck. Once again, not always snagging, but it works as such. My post is pointless in the fact you have your opinions and nothing said here will change that.  Outright snagging is frowned on here, which you seem to continue to practice. You're also right in the fact that you were also supposedly going to be ignored  and have continued to produce conversation. Mine is at an end. 

I am using a 1/0 red octopus hook in that picture I provided.  It's a legal hook, so why is that snagging?  How can you infer that I am snagging at all?  I did not chuck and duck on Friday, I floated under an indicator the whole way.  Fichy, it's becoming quite clear to me that you are not a stable individual.

Hmmm, that's a complement, as  winter steelheaders gotta be a little off  I'm also going by the fact that I've fished with Shane on a Jan 2nd  and he only supplied c and d rigs, so I brought my own rod to fish. He told me he thought indicators were better used in the spring sight  fishing redds and in the fall when fish are aggresive. Maybe he's changed.  He had a client of mine that was a newbie  fish c and d while I mostly  waded and fished indicators.  It was my call.  I have nothing against him, but would not choose him for fly fishing only, again.  If you chose to fish the indicators, good for you. If he did, good for him.  Maybe I got down off a high horse to beat the crap out of a dead one, but you still haven't shown a pic with that hook in perspective. It could easily be a 6 or even smaller. You want to make me look like a fool, re-post that pic on a tape measure.  If you don't, it'll appear the other way around. To be honest, to me,  it really doesn't matter, as we'll never fish together and have no interaction of any meaning.

The question isn't if the hook is legal (many legal hooks are used to catch salmon illegally) its why is it needed.
I showed you can tie a large fly with a much smaller hook.
That has to do with shank length not gap.
If that was really your fly as you claim post a pic of it next to a quarter for size perspective.
 
Until then I will respond to your posts with a single word.
SNAGGER
 
 

Wow, this one is getting hot and heavy...lol

Hey, I fished dsr yesterday and hooked one fish in 2.5 hours and lost it at my hands... probably covered 3/4 miles of water while hiking a total of 1.5 miles. I guess my report is BS too? Maybe its because I was dressed like a cave man in clown boots fishing a blind mans rig with a daiwa spin reel electrical taped to a 25 year old Cortland 5/6 weight fly rod??? Thank god I didn't where my red nose :)

BTW, there are way more fish in Altmar and I have no shame saying this as its already azzhole to elbow up there... thank God its getting frigid again to buffer the pressure down a bit... unfortunately it will only stir the cabin fever in this place!!! Lol

You're not giving anything away Dime.  My guide was getting calls saying the hole where we hooked up twice was red hot (just down from Altmar).  Rule of fishing:  don't leave fish to find fish.  Next time I'll look for an Orvis recommended guide.