Chartist, you are right mostly, but I will say I have left fish to find fish and had it pay off... not common thougb

DSR's report said there was good, even excellent   fishing Thursday, Friday, Sat, and now, today. That fresh fish had come in. I was considering fishing there, even.   That's what I went by. I thought they were getting honest. Was I wrong? Dime,  I actually thought your report and post  was well written and somehow I got sidetracked in congratulating you. I don't have all the answers, but neither do you. I also spoke with a few friends that regularly travel over from Vermont and they did well in Pineville . I very well may have cabin fever and a whole lot of pressure from life in general. So i'll leave the bickering and snark . Good luck to anyone who goes no matter how you fish. I'll still put in reports  occasionally  and leave it at that.  I apologise for my argumentative nature lately,  lots going on OFF river. If that's not good enough, you know who I am. I never hid behind anything and never will.
 
 

I would have to agree with the snaggr classification, no need for anything bigger than a 10 or 8 for Kings. Even the 8 is a little large for an egg pattern but I know guys that use them. I myself will sometimes go down to a size 12 to avoid foulin' em as much. Obviously too many guys think they know and pass on bad info to the masses, who eat it up. " Tons of weight and grappling hooks is the only way to git em"..... NICE TRY PAL!  Maybe if you took time to actually learn how to fish rather than floss/lift/snag you mite enjoy the time even more. We dont even go to the SR for Kings. I went once and that was enuff, jus say'IN. Its a beautiful river and awesome fishery. It's a shame what goes on there during "The Run"....JIMO

 
 


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 there, my fly next to a quarter....Hope you enjoy it.  I am still going to use this fly next year, with or without the approval of any posters.

Wow, what a **** show of a thread!!! I am literally laughing out loud!!!

Charlie, life sucks sometimes for sure. At least you have good times spent on the river and elsewhere with friends and family. And yes dsr reported good action. I unfortunately waited a little too long to go yesterday and it was not so hot. Talked with guys who went double digits for the day and some who hooked none. I was the only one to hook up out of the 6-8 anglers I encountered while there. Although I nearly waded in above my boots, almost broke my rod and had the fish snap the line between my legs after a 100+ yard battle... it was better than a 10 hook up day of while standing in an assembly line up river... it definitely got my heart going...now let's put this stupid thread to rest.

Snagger's pic didn't show on my computer.
HE managed to put up a movie and another pic so I know the ability exists.
 
Dime what is stupid about asking why that large of a hook is needed when it is obviously not to produce a larger profile fly?
I take offense to that characterization.
 
Pensfan I often fish 7x long #2 streamers for kings.
Big bright flies seeking aggressive fish.
Not small and black with a giant hook gap.
I also believe I foul less fish with the bigger hooks not only because they can see them coming better but because they are not as sticky sharp as the smaller hooks 
When the river is full of kings your bait will bump into fish no matter what you are doing and larger hooks seem to slide off better if not set by the rodholder.
That is why I asked for the pic.
I wanted all the available info before making a judgement
To see if it was just hook gap for the sake of hook gap.
 
 
Some people just prove themselves to be not worth trying to help.
Sad but true
Snag on!

Twobob, I don't need your help...I am using the 1/0 octopus hook cuz it worked, and the fish were NOT snagged.  I am a C/R fly fisherman for ALL species.  Take a look at the octopus hook closely, the tip is curved inward which I believe makes them less prone to snagging....

As for reports they only reflect the day that the poster had.
Two reports from the same day can vary greatly but both still be honest.
 
The first few times I fished for kings this year I smelled badly of skunk while others reported banner days.
I saw fish so I have no doubt the reports were true.
Its just that the fish had lost their aggressiveness by the time they reached my location and the other people either were fishing over aggressive fish or a method by which that didn't matter.
I sure it was a combination of each.

2b,
 
There is definetly a difference in swingin' streamers and dead driftin/flossin' with a "turtle hook" wrapped in estaz.. I also agree with the "louder" the better on the streamer patterns. Swingin' to a hot fish can produce bone jarring strikes. Sometimes the BIG Ugly is what they key on and when you do hook up with one there is NO doubt. It's right in tha beak. Jus clear'IN that up, jus say'IN...

pensfan1
2b,
 
There is definetly a difference in swingin' streamers and dead driftin/flossin' with a "turtle hook" wrapped in estaz.. I also agree with the "louder" the better on the streamer patterns. Swingin' to a hot fish can produce bone jarring strikes. Sometimes the BIG Ugly is what they key on and when you do hook up with one there is NO doubt. It's right in tha beak. Jus clear'IN that up, jus say'IN...

There sure is - the streamers didn't work!!!  I saw perhaps 50+ salmon when walking across the Altmar bridge the first weekend in October.  I tried for about 30 minutes using a black egg sucking leech on a size 4 hook and they wouldn't touch it.  I tied on that hook pictured above and had 8 hookups in 45 minutes.  I got spooled a few times and quit as my arms were falling off and it was Miller time.  People around me were wondering what I was using cuz they couldn't catch anything.