Clint.... I've had years where I went just about every weekend from end of august til mid November with many long weekends (grade and highschool vacations and breaks when I was younger).Coupled with many winter trips..so I've always made the pass worth its while to me. Last year I probably had close to 15 days under my belt down there by September 7th or so.. By no means would I try to push anything on you. For steel... I've had my best steelhead days down there with the best ever being middle December on a beautiful day after a hard front came through...rj is correct in the weather getting tough down there but steelhead fishing can be great down there.

If you want to dabble with a daily pass I'll keep close touch with you and let you know when... And it may be way sooner than later at this point...

As for wealthy folks and snobbery, that's everywhere and I've known plenty of snobs who were fad from wealthy... Im far from wealthy and my blue collar is often brown from sweat and dirt:) but i love fishing down there.There are plenty of average joes that I've met through the years down there and many I see annually for years... It is what it is.

Remember DB I am out of the game at least until October, but keep me in the loop anyway. If the nephew is free or I just may come down and watch.

Hey--the Farm just downriver from DSR parking lot is selling bout 26 acres with 845 ft of river frontage-oooopps---uh ohhh
 Could be another Jailhouse coming- lol. ( by the way they looked like an empty jailhouse this weekend- crime must be down)
 

I assume the DSR had leased the  access rights, they might have to pony the money up to buy it outright. If they don't- they just reduced the number of fishermen . Coincidence?  If someone else jumps in and forks out the cash (a high number, I bet)  There may be a competing concern right in the midst of the DSR. I imagine there's lots of politics going on right now.  The way the law reads, you also need to control the property on both banks of the river to maintain the ownership of the river bottom. In theory if someone else buys that piece of  bank you could bring your drift boat down and anchor there, or get out and wade. I smell the brains of lawyers boiling..... Unfortunately, as Trev suggested, it's likely to end up more exclusionary, than less.

The first thing that came to my puny little brain was downriver access to DSR customers if this parcel goes to another entity. Since it looks ( making a straight line on a putor overview) like the low end of the Joss hole is around the line ( hope I got that  hole name right).. Might think any DSR lease is over  ( likely with a ownership change) because the for sale sign on the lot is clearly making the river footage a selling point.
The trail on  that side through the property is heavily used, as I recall.
 Also heard a rumor of about $750,000.Thats  lot for twenty something acres if it didn't include the fishing rights.
 IMHO it might seem that one is trying to make someone 'pony up' for the lot which would be a real game changer for many  DSR  customers.
Betcha ( Palinism) the sign is down pretty soon.

OH NO where would chart head fish?!?!?!

I had heard a rumor about a month ago that Douglaston bought that parcel from joss farm for a million... Then just recently I saw the for sale sign... Who knows what's going on???

Charlie, I never knew the law stated that. I always thought that it was just a farse and misinforming concept spawned from uninformed chatter... To my knowledge there is plenty of private ownership of o e side as long as property line ascends in to the river. Even Douglaston only owns one side from the tail of the black upstream on the south bank. To my knowledge it is private... How about salmon acres and surrounding parcels??? But heck, maybe I am misinformed :)

Wouldn't it be an upset if the state stepped in and bought the farm lot for PFR and even out in a parking lot.
I know- I know- aint gonna happen but just a dream   LOL.
 

That law is in operation on all the trout streams in my area. It's been battled over in my area, too. As long as the land is owned or LEASED on both sides, the entire  river bottom is controlled.  Maybe in the case of the SR, separate and specific laws have been enacted. Certainly the 1997 appelate reversal was groundbreaking in destroying state's, and by extension, the public's  access rights on all rivers deemed navigable.  If you think I'm spawning uninformed chatter, and promoting a farce that's OK. However, it's my understanding of the overall law, which I learned from taking care of properties on the Battenkill. You're the local, do the research and find the right answer. I'm not that bright. But I'm not a dum-azz , either.
http://www.adirondack-park.net/issues/river.rights-salmon.html
If they don't have ownership of a stretch of river bank and bottom, I think they would have to allow fishing access via driftboat as a de facto result. The waterway is still considered navigable and by the law fought for by the Barclay family, is only to be used for that purpose. However; if the ownership of the river bottom is not in their control, they can't specifically prevent someone from anchoring there. It will be up to the new owners to decide the fate of that stretch.  If the Tailwater Lodge owned the North Bank, they could invoke the same law. Since they don't-they can't. I don't have a horse in this race, so what happens with the DSR is not worth me giving a dam about. I'd be worried if I were in your shoes, Andy, at least a little concerned.
 

Charlie that's what I thought too, but I am the most uniformed of the bunch. I think that's why the jail "said"
they will not stop boats front anchoring on their ide because they can't.
Now if I only could talk my wife into letting me cash in all our retirement accounts and mortgage the house up to the hilt for the down payment.....................