Thanks for the second chance tuna. Will definitely take you up on it. Jack: i'll be darned if I can't catch up with you one of those days you're around

R3: my wife and I bit the bullet and tried the restaurant out recently. Was pretty surprised at the amount of locals there for dinner on a Saturday plus there were quite a few out of Towner's. Have to say all appetizers and meals we had were very good. Service was great... We were happy. The dining area opened up to the bar with the cathedral ceiling was the only downfall with it being very echoey... Believe it or not I was quite shocked at the bill when got it. Thought it was gonna be much more

pafisher
Well it must be July as the anticipation has begun,and I'm right there with everyone else.I'm booked for "silly" season and the dates are Sept 28 to Oct 2,then again Oct 5th to the 10th.Before or after that there are no concrete plans but who knows?
Hope to see some of you there!

I might be there for most of the 5th through the 10th, can I be your net man? 
Can't wait, Jack.  I hope we get a few more "special"  days in the secret spot.

That's cool DB . Usually only a reputation will allow a restaurant to survive. Can it carry the over head though ? That will be the question .. Just did a run through for lodging and every weekend mid sept- oct had plenty of rooms available .
Jack I will only fish with you if I can be the net man :) looking forward to it . Sorry I see Charlie beat me to it .
I will still just watch you hook up , no sense in even bringing a rod

Good to hear from you guys and I'm looking forward to fishing with all that want to join in on the shark battles at the "secret" spot.As we get closer to that time maybe we can plan a "after the battle" cook out one evening?

An after the fight would be great !! And if the river is dead maybe a trip on the Daisy Mae .
Right now I'm sitting on the shores at Rhode Island getting ready to dig for dinner. Ah those little necks will taste ohhh soooo gooood .
See ya soon partner :)

I could quite possible help out with the location for after cookout or at least some of the food. 

I won't be dining at the Jailwater any time soon simply because of the bank issue.
Even though I haven't fished that stretch in decades it is about the principle.
 
Might be different if I was a year round resident.
 
 
 

As one who generally  does not fish that particular area  am VERY aware of bank loss anywhere on the Sr as it contributes to overcrowding elsewhere. I deplore it as a general rule.
      Am still awaiting the Ballpark issue. Since it was mentioned a year or so back it seems to have 'gone away' however in life's experience these things seem to commonly come back to haunt us.
    Its easy to blame the new buyers, however, in the case of the Schoolhouse the real culprit is the State of NY for not keeping their eye on the ball. We had a School -heavily subsidized by State and Federal funding and publicly owned- as all schools are- and when it came time to change hands the State fell asleep on the angling rights issue. Possibly they thought the other side was good enough without taking  a 'real life' look at the predictable outcome.
      This was different than a regular private property transfer as the State already had a clear fiscal involvement in the property.
 The new place would be just as well off selling parking to a public fishery at their doorstep and it would seem to have little negative affect on their business IMHO, that side being the 'hard' side to fish anyhow.
   Now the games will begin over the areas fishing -will likely be a big issue in the coming year or two while L/E and Guides and fisher folks get used to whatever happens. All sides will likely push their luck as far as they can hoping to be the one who is 'right' and unfortunately it will all too often end up in a court.
    Remember, if the new place has 'river wardens' like DSR they are paid for and work for a private company-even if they have the right to give tickets they will have a particular mandate from a private business. DSR 'special rules' come to mind.
    Could have easily been avoided with proper PFR for an area already with a great public fiscal  interest now predictably lost and 'off limits'. Again the Ballpark comes to mind-even the present 'owners' have a  public involvement.
   Cant blame the new owners though- thats too easy. The State of NY has done a GREAT job with the SR, and continues to do so,  but gotta keep their eye on the ball that they clearly dropped in this case.
 Bad enough when a private piece gets sold and posted but when a public piece gets sold and posted- someone fell asleep.

Not to beat a dead horse but I have always questioned the State's roll in the sale of the Schoolhouse property.  The property was available for some time so its not as if the State of NY did not know of the pending issues regarding PFR.  On its face it appears that, at least to me, lobbying was involved to keep the State from exercising eminent domain over the fishing rights for the property.  The new owners got their cake and can eat it too.  A win, win, win for the new owners.  Property at a favorable price, fishing rights intact and tax abatement for ten years, what a deal. 

Trev they just had my 25th HS reunion up there and I was glad I did not had to make the choice or not to go due to the surgery.  That said this is a double edged sword.   Would Jailwater of even bought the place without the river frontage we do not know.    Since it was a PUBLIC place would our districts residents want to take the chance of the school not selling and sitting vacant like the other 2  by not keeping the bank rights with the property.   I would have to guess if the subject was put up to a vote in our district it would have taken the same course as it did.  It is my understanding that although school districts that get state aid have to adhere to state jimble jumble, the property itself was owned by the district and the districts residents.  I feel the district and it's residents being in it's right mind would have never given in those bank rights. 
 
That said like you stated above the state could have easily given the district a few $$$$$ 10 to 15 years ago and secured the bank rights with a near 100% approval from the residents.  What district would not want extras money in the coffers.
 
Do not get the wrong impression from me also, now that it is a done deal I am 100% happy Jailwater is up and running  and I hope they make 20 million a year to help lower my tax bill.  It is a new venture though and once the novelty wears off  the locals will get sick  of paying $100 plus for a meal on Saturday night.  Just glad they have the world  class bass fishery to fall back on.