2014/08/12 12:20:46
Clint S
Well this is the year for the 2010 flood fish so who knows maybe numbers are down.  It  is cold and rainy, I would not be surprised if reports start trickling in with a push late in the week especially if the winds keep up and push them in.
2014/08/13 18:31:31
chartist
It seems to me, I am seeing off shore charters showing off a lot of brown trout catches....And big ones to boot!....Oak Orchard is where I go for big browns but maybe we'll see more on the SR?
2014/08/13 19:28:35
hot tuna
Charters are ditching the fish less salmon days and picking on the easy browns to put clients on rods. Everything in my research for salmon on the lake has been frustration .
I think the browns have taken a beating ( hitting boxes ) so there may be far less in the rivers come fall.
Time will tell on the sharks , soon ... Very soon after these heavy west winds ..
2014/08/13 20:24:57
chartist
The pictures I've seen seem to indicate there's not much C&R where the brown's are concerned....I personally don't want to eat Browns but to each his own.
2014/08/14 09:21:54
bigbear2012
Won't be long now....my crystal ball shows a nice run of cohos on September 3rd. 
2014/08/14 09:51:26
dimebrite2
Just heard yesterday some charters are going out to 500' targeting next years salmon for the clients that want salmon... Will be shocked if the port doesn't have fish in it after 2 days of east wind and followed by the heavy west wind we are having now as tuna said... Colder temps and higher flows coupled with the wind events should have fish in the port by tonight...
2014/08/14 10:13:06
fischnmachine
Hey Clint dumb question but given its a put and take fishery how did the flood impact numbers.  I suspect the DEC got their egg numbers right?  So was it when they put the fingerlings in, the floods killed off some of numbers or do you mean that there was no in river reproduction which may have impacted total numbers.  I'm just trying to get my head around it.  Thanks...
2014/08/14 10:15:38
pafisher
bigbear2012
Won't be long now....my crystal ball shows a nice run of cohos on September 3rd. 




BB Ibet you may be right on that.
2014/08/14 10:41:43
dimebrite2
Fish machine, for quite some time there has been a very high rate of natural reproduction for Chinook strains in the salmon river. Catastrophic flooding during peak spawn is not good for natural reproduction. Many fish end up spawning in areas that are usually dry land and many eggs get washed out from beds on the main portions of rivers as well... Egg collection numbers were fine that year if I remember correctly but as we've noticed for quite some time now we have been getting larger numbers of natural returns than hatchery return kings. And the natural fish seem to run earlier instinctually... So time will tell. If natural returns are low this year we will end up with late September and October having the large runs of fish in the lower river... Kinda like it used to be in the early to late 90's
2014/08/14 13:59:28
fischnmachine
Thanks for the info dime.  I honestly wasn't sure when the flood happened i.e. during spawn or around the time the state places the fingerlings (and truthfully I'm not sure when that happens either....).  Last question, has the state started dialing back there egg collection to account for natural reproduction and if not is there a plan to account for such numbers.  If I remember correctly aren't the numbers of predators i.e. salmonoid species being one decimating the bait fish populations.  Why do I want to say bunker or rather alewives was one of those...  I could be completely off my rocker by the way. 

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