Dang retired 12 years ago, you say, and you still don't have time!! That's it, I'm callin' ARRP, I hear they can help us oldie but goldies find a job. "NOT"....

Yea rg, that is nuts.. Lol. The grass will all die off soon any way so I couldn't give a hoot if the few neighbors I have care, Time is too short , I'm going fishin ' !!!!
Ah this last day, last hr at work is killing me !!! Lake Ontario look out , here I come for 9 days !!
Don't bother with the river this year folks, I'm gonna ( with a little help from my friends ) catch EVERY salmon in the lake .. LMAO

Yea butttt Tuna- you just dont understand--- bout the time the grass dies ya gotta rake the leaves.
Ya stayin at Selkirk next week ??
Hope ya hit them good.

Yes a bow saw and 15minutes wmould take care of the one in the lfz.  would take a chair saw for the huge one in the upper.

Good luck, HT. Have a blast and I hope you find them thick and hungry.

Well I got a reply from the DEC they said they would forward my concerns to the appropriate department. From there who knows. I think next time I see my friendly neighborhood officer I will ask him who to call. The tree in the upper zone would add a few extra spots to the rotation.

Actually, I'd like  to see that tree in the upper to stay right the hell where it is. Don't need a  groomed golf course to fish on and don't need rotation, either. I mentioned it because they didn't remove it, not because I'd like any of them cut out.  If you do get the one in the upper removed Clint, I'll send in a letter of complaint.  Those fish get beat to death up there, it's good they have one difficult, protected lie. Just my opinion, which is worth exactly zero. 

I agree Fichy....Actually, there needs to be some improvement in the river that provides habitat for fish...There's no place for them to hide.

Charlie, rotation was a bad choice of words you know I don't believe in that crap either.  I was more talking about "my" rotation of go to spots.  I do see your point  about giving them a place to rest and that tree in the upper zone does give that.   The one in the LFZ makes it more of a big pain to get over/under it to get to the hemlocks. It really is not a big tree only about 4 inches around. Honestly I think a couple of guys can and will just pull it out of the way.   Don't fish in the upper zone alot so I really don't care about the upper zone tree so if it makes you happy I won't say a word. 🚧😉. Tell you the truth though I think the chances of the DEC lifting a finger on either one is slim to none.

Man just drown last week while floating one of the creeks around Erie. He and a buddy, both wearing jackets, hit a tree laying in the water. The poor sole got hung up, his buddy couldn't free him and went for help............. Young girl drown in French Creek at Franklin, PA. while floating with a church group a few years ago after her jacket got caught by the very snag that created the back wash that capsized her canoe............ First responder drown in Slippery Rock Creek while attempting a water rescue/recovery. I'll stand corrected but, I believe he got caught up in a snag. These are, but, a few incidents that occur each year on our nations streams, creeks, and rivers.

I find no better fish magnets then cover such as these snags but, the truth of the matter is more and more novice boaters are using the creeks and rivers for recreation. You and I know the more people injured, be they novice or experienced, people are going to pressure the authorities to keep the waterways clear of snags.

We also know that waterways are constantly changing so, a snag that is not a threat to navigation today can become a death trap tomorrow.

Losing good fish holding structure sucks but as always; for some people to play, other people pay.