2014/10/07 07:24:53
r3g3
Hoping the recent great reports of Steel and Browns are true- One may think ,however, that they are seeming in larger numbers only because there are so few Kings around.
Kudos to those fishing and hooking up for having nice trips in troubled times.
2014/10/07 07:40:24
Lucky13
I'll definitely agree with you on that one, R3.  When you look up the river and every hole has someone playing a king in it, it has got to be a lot easier for a brown or chromer to find its way through the gauntlet, and then find a spot not so "friendly" to the salmon to hold in.  I don't think there are necessarily more trout running early this year, but they are conspicuous in the absence of a lot of the salmon.  I am wondering why we've heard nothing from DEC, but the reports indicate that the hatchery has fish, so they may see numbers in the river as secondary, and the hotels are booked solid whether the fish are there or not.  Does anyone know if egg taking has started yet?  Are there fish cutting in the upper river, hens with 2-3 bucks working the gravel?  It might still just be late. 
 
However, I talked to a guy who lives above the Genesee gorge and walks the Seneca Park pedestrian bridge daily, and he says he is seeing spent carcasses coming down river with the gulls working them, which says things are already well along in a river that is usually 2-3 weeks behind the Salmon.
 
L13
2014/10/07 09:20:33
Clint S
Here is what I have heard and gathered from a few trips to the hatchery as well as my 2cents. Egg collection may start the day after Columbus day. There were plenty of fish in the ladder and o heard that the have a few pens full too. There are fish starting to pair up and some with loose eggs and milt. I have just started to see spent carcasses around and they were beat up fish not fish that got handled wrong. There are also plenty of fifth that are starting to zombie up, hint, hint , lets tie up some flesh flies.
Hotels  are booked, well most of them, tailgater has openings. The DSR is also sold out for last Saturday and I think next. People who come from a bit away make these plans well in advance and fish or no fish they are coming. I think that did why we were seeing increased tensions in the Zones as they want that spot that can produce
I am right .on board with L13 and was actually just telling my friend the same thing. With the decreased number of salmon the trout are just more evident and being caught more.  I know yesterday I specifically targeted trout with small nymphs in fast water something I would not do this time of year usually.
2014/10/07 09:34:51
hot tuna
A lot of thoughts here from someone ( myself ) who has not seen the river.
Could it be a sparse number of salmon then previous ?
The lake reports I have been givin and found on my outings have indicated fewer mature salmon . Lots of alewives and some say too much out there. Hence they ( boaters ) want increased chinook stockings, all this due to a down season mind you .
Again in my adventures out there I found the kings sparse , the one steelhead we caught had a full belly of emeralds , and it was a small fish. The boaters did well on trout , bows & browns, maybe to well ?
I don't think the trout will go hungry as to L-13 pointed out on fat reserves or the fact of the amass of caddis, stonefly in the river. Once they make it to that critical stage ( close to spawn) the salmon smolts and other minnows will fill the slot per and spring to keep them healthy. The only unhealthy ones will be on ropes, coolers and grills.
My hope is that folks get their fill of salmon kicks for the year and leave the trout for the next guy.
I'm looking forward to a Holloween adventure and my last vacation day will be spent 11/10 for a few days during vets .

Good luck to all that weta line, I'm back to sawdust before much needed sleep .
2014/10/07 18:05:29
twobob
When I went to lfz today the church hole had 3 on the wall 8 or 9 on the south side.
At least 6 of them were together.
 
Pods of kings moved  below town around 8:15.
Saw 15 or 20 hook ups.
I have named the run above where I was "THE CANNONBALL RUN"..
While I didn't see any Burt Reynolds I did see a lot of Dom Deluise types and they were all failing awy with cannonballs.
 
Found several steel upriver.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
2014/10/07 22:13:25
Lucky13
Water Obstruction WORK!
 
L13
2014/10/07 23:19:48
Clint S
Gonna go up tomorrow  am with some friends. Lets see what is going on.
 
2014/10/08 07:19:58
twobob
Sux 13!
 
I should also have mentioned that even below town all the kings I saw were greenies.
No nickle brights mixed in.
These fish have been staging in the lake until they decide to run.
Plenty of water since I never happened to see any moving.
They were just there suddenly after fishing blank water for 20 minutes or so and then 20 minutes of fish and then blank again.
2014/10/08 08:59:05
dimebrite2
Yup, Saturday was all dark fish. Apparently we were upstream of "the push" and missed a steady half hour at lunch. Again we left just before 4 to weigh my sons fish in for the derby and apparently we missed a solid push. For this year, yes it was a run I guess... Compared to the past 10+ years... I'd say it was an average push

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