Oh snap! Bobber down! A 1/0 under a bobber with a bunch of weight is like a boat dropping anchor . Eventually it'll catch. What would Jesus do? Refrain from posting on this forum. What would dog butt Jesus do? Troll with a bobber. No matter how many trolls you throw out, Chartist, you aren't welcome here and will forever be labeled a snagger and a pig. You might try to throw out some reasonable, valid point like the bobber lifting, but you've burnt this bridge and baiting someone like 2b will result in getting thrown into the still burning debris after the bridge. Insulting Pafisher is just ludicrous, he's earned everyone's respect and friendship and I seriously consider driving all the way to Ohio to fish with him on the Erie tribs. I readily admit to being a fly snob and using fancy azz gear; this should put me in your corner, or at least make me feel some kinship. Sorry, the tail don't wag this dog.