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I only glanced at the article. It is about stressors increasing thiaminase in alvives.
 
 looks like you will have to click on the appropriate PDF article in the search, but it comes up.
 

OK- soooo-- now that the Steelhead aren't dying so fast all seems OK on various internet postings here and there.
Theory seems to be  that those that were  'sick' are gone and all is  well now, with blame in some corners going to the weather on the lake as it affected feed fish and ultimately some of the Steel.
 Butttt -- all is OK now that the dying is minimal or stopped---PROBLEM OVER- YEEEEE HAAA
 
(what about the Kings ???)

But will there be spring fish, and how many are littering the bottom of the lake. As far as the kings my guess would be they are on the bottom of the lake and we are in for a few years of sub par runs. It's gonna take 3 years for this years stocked fish to come up and not to mention all the ''wild '' fish that will not be there to spawn and return.........

dimebrite2
Most ice on the lake since 1977 could be playing a part somewhere in there too... I've heard opinions expressed towards the thick freeze on the lake can take a toll on baitfish... I'm sure it can take a toll on less than yearling salmonoids as well... I'd be shocked if lake Ontario collapsed completely in regards to salmonoids... Some lean years "could" be coming though....

I said this weeks ago and I still stand by it... Fish for your own desires and enjoy... That's about all one can do. The numbers guys could really get weeded out. Hearing more and more about opinions on this past salmon season being the worst ever... Time will tell.

Too much bs propoganda and inflated opinions getting thrown around in the world...

I was being a bit snide with the YEE HAAA thing---
 
- Think the zones should be closed like they were for the Kings a few years ago- the disease MAY or MAY NOT affect fish still to come in this winter and spring but don't take chances on potential spring egg take.
Most would understand and appreciate the effort to protect the fisheries future.
In questionable times it seems appropriate to take some protective measures rather than just hope for a better future.
 I support whatever the fishery folks decide in these questionable times. Their track record is excellent IMHO.
 
 Personally stopped fishing till dropback season with all this happening.
 
  From my waders the King fishing was beyond poor this year and far lower than normal  natural spawning occurred for lack of fish and that the few  were quickly targeted on beds.
Unlike the past few banner King years  had the opportunity to fish almost weekly this past season from August into Nov. and think I have a decent view of what happened to the SR Kings despite the lake reports of many fish.
 
In regard to Hos and steel-- the few weeks they came in hard were great , however with the lack of Kings they were too often seen on rope.
One thing rarely mentioned  was the unusual number of very small Steel that ran in. They were quick and all the way up into the vines. Then nothing was heard or seen of them from my perches as the season got late.
 I know folks gear into larger fish but where the heck did all the shorts go- There were a lot of them. Hope they made it
Back to the lake?? Never saw them going back and there were enough that they should have been noticed -unless they returned quite late in the season when fewer folks were out.
 
  Am also quite concerned bout my favored Hos- they seem forgotten in the blogs with all the attention going to more popular Steel and Kings. Saw a number of dead cookie cutter Hos mid season.
 
 Schizamm I hate being so concerned bout this great fishery. Have been here since the 80s and have seen many ups and down- sooo--whatever it is will undoubtedly be cyclical if history repeats- hopefully while I can still fish-  lol.

Rg3, those early steel stayed congregated in the snag up through trestle for quite a while... They were large numbers butThey were not eating though. Could those have been the fish(100's or maybe more???) that have all died? And yes cohoes were down.

Lucky, it's the internet and social media for sure and I agree with you. With Facebook and all other social networks this world is going to ****. Its almost as if everyone is turning against each other... Black vs. White, left vs. Right, police vs. The public the gubbament the military... Hatred is being instilled through text and propaganda that gets shoved down everyone's throats via the internet. Family members and friends break ties over political arguments and disagreements... Blatant racism is being strewned across our screens... I can go on and on but yes I agree with propaganda and inflated sock puppet opinions fueling the fire everywhere in this world

Rg3, forgot to add that winter cohoes have been showing up in the past two weeks in good numbers. First time in two years...

GREAT- thanks Andy- my faith is restoring as we speak- that also speaks well of the lake conditions for the fish right now IMHO