No prob ugly... Did you go down old 13 Thursday morning?

No tried Wednesday afternoon. Went up river where I was successful with a half dozen chubs and a smallmouth. I'll get them this week

Not if I get them first. Tell your Dad I'm never going to let him live the 3/4's of the way to the rock story down.... Seeya on the water, bud. Don't forget those boots, if it's OK.

A float on the top where only 3 Salmon are seen by an experienced angler this time of year is pathetic.
Yes- its still early for some years but --THREE .
Yes, there could have been more- in low waters though- hiding in dark holes but-- THREE-- in the whole top.
Lousy at best.
 Clearly the thiamine damage  is still looming large.

I'm going anyway, and will carefully fish using the knowledge I've gained and wait it out. Paid off last year, but I'm not looking for numbers, just a fish or 2. Last year was just like this way into Sept. , this year is a little more of a prolonged wait. Not a good year by any means and steel may be very, very poor, but still worth fishing. I know Dime, Clint and others have all said a few bad years may blow out the goons. Silver lining, guys, silver lining. The problem with that theory is that lots are coming for the party and don't really care if their harpoons with reels taped to them don't stink like fish.

The hope is that with few fish they will get bored  (we all know the only reason to fish is #s) and decide to start drinking earlier and leaving the river by late morning instead of yawking all day long.
I like to catch fish but it is not the only reason I love fishing.
Silver lining indeed.

If I were there today, I'd fish the Joss Hole area of the DSR.  Probably still a week away from a decent push of fish.  I won't bother with the DSR since I arrive on Oct 13.  Pineville to the church hole along with everyone else.  Then off to the Altmar Hotel.  $1.50 Genny Cream Ale, Yum.

True , true . I still believe the lake was the indicator . No matter the fishing , I'm looking at meeting up with old friends I missed last year . It will be a good time

Yep. The one  important thing that gets put in the pocket of our vests and fishing jackets is all the great times we can pull out and use in the slow times.
We've had some blasts and will again. I'm looking forward to seeing some friends and sharing some water and stories.  When you fish with good friends, if one lands one, it's as good as doing it yourself. One of us will be hooking up. Probably Jack, as usual.

Am with the one fish a day to make me happy crowd-however- the crowds are clearly still there and when that happens the worst things  occur-be prepared for folks jumping in and crowding if they even THINK you may be working a fish.
There is lots to be said for weeding out the crowds but even one decent push or season will immediately bring them back- there is no going back to pristine for more than a very short time.
 The fish need to be at a decent level and spread through the system for any of us to truly enjoy a bit of fishing the way we like to do it.
I fear any reports of a pod running up will make it worse as there are so very few fish--- as yet.
Thiamine has changed our world.
 Certainly there WILL be some kind of run coming in a short time and just as certainly there will be a huge push of fishermen very quickly thereafter.
YES --am getting old and ****ety and wonder If I will live long enough to see 'good times' again.