2016/08/08 22:15:03
Clint S
Close Orwell creek. That place has good spawning gravel and a snagger every 2 feet. Wondering if zones would be closed all year or just during salmon spawn and open in the winter.  FWIW it will cut the traffic on the river too.
2016/08/09 10:02:00
r3g3
Closing the Zones and Orwell has been on, and off, 'the books' as options for increases by natural spawn for years.
 
 
Pulaski and Altmar of the future may not be what they were.
2016/08/09 12:50:14
pafisher
How bout decreasing the creel limit to ONE Salmon per day,then even more will make it to wherever they spawn,why anyone keeps them is beyond me as they are terrible tasting.
2016/08/09 13:11:44
r3g3
 
Cant wait for Thursdays likely reports on Wednesdays actual meeting and reality of the issues.
 
2016/08/09 13:37:24
hot tuna
Rg , your not quite right . The lake management focus is about king salmon .
Charters HATE lake trout and would like nothing more then to stock more salmon and less to none on the lakers . Lakers & atlantics are a federal case.
We all know how the reduction to a 1 steelhead ( trib ) limit went . Lake guys kept their 3 and trib guys got reduced to 1 . It seemed to work IMO .
You will never , ever get the lake to reduce salmon to 1 fish .

As we also know , there were no zones in the beginning . Now granted there were more salmon stocked but there were crazy number of salmon in the river back then , could the natural reproduction be linked to way back then ?
Also , we experienced a drought year not to long ago when an emergency closure of the LFZ happened . Don't you think it might happen again ?
This is just food for thought at this point . We will find out the thoughts of the dec at tomorrow's meeting
2016/08/09 14:41:12
pafisher
My suggested ONE Salmon was for the tribs,those caught on the lake are still edible....barely! Or better yet how bout making the entire SR a Fly ZONE C&R!!! That would make me happy.
2016/08/09 14:43:17
uglyfish
I'm with Jack. Closing the zones and I may be out as well. Even though it's only 2:30 hours from my door no wants to be around the crap that goes on in the other spots. The good thing there are other places in the North east to target different species.
2016/08/09 17:02:09
hot tuna
Well jack , I like C&R most times but not all the time . I dissed a well known fly shop after the new owner told me the only way I could stay there was a no kill limit . Rubbed me the wrong way if I chose to keep a trophy fish or edible trout . If that were the case then why should we have to pay for a license . In hunting I buy one just for the fact I can put food on the table , not to sit in a tree stand and shoot them with a camera , lol. Just ribbin ya .
A 1 species limit would work for me . . If they closed the zones I could deal with that also because I learned on the river prior to them but it would put me back in the expensive play to play or totally outta the shark game all together . .
As Uglyfish said , there is a LOT of great angling available , all within the same 180 mile or less distance I drive almost weekly to the Great Lake .
Still , in my beginnings , it was the area and Great Lake that drew me to there . The fishing was secondary .
i enjoy the summers there which I would otherwise just be sitting home waiting for the other 3 seasons . Currently I have no plans to change this and only to expand on that .
2016/08/09 17:13:56
r3g3
Are they having similar issues on the Canada side and from Oak on up  ??
Rich- am not saying they would like it , but that they would have something to live with. Besides, Kings will still be there to a lesser degree as well.
2016/08/09 17:59:02
hot tuna
Honestly I don't know the issues on the Canadian side . I assume the eastern basin was the indicator for most . The western end has a totally different program . They rely on a huge amount of pen rearing. Over there , it seems deep water , currents , temps and enough bait allow them to stick to that area until the spawn migration happens . Salmon don't always follow their natural instinct to return to their birthplace . They follow , bait , temps and schools .

Lakers might be the king of the queen of lakes ( lake George ) but will never fly on the Great Lake Ontario . It's chinook salmon that put people on charters . IMO , if the Kings crash , so would the charter industry which is very close to the peak days I recall in 1985 ish

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