2017/09/13 12:09:41
Clint S
That's where the confusion is I think. 35 feet from lets say 1k flow would put you in the guys house. So it would seem that the whole rock pile would be in the PFR. I wonder if it just in fact they want to limit the traffic that is pretty much through their ftont yard.
2017/09/13 12:29:45
Lucky13
It will make the spey flingers on the left side happy as they will not have to contend with the depth charge fly guys (Oh, I am sorry, none of them ever exceed 1/8 ounce of shot! LOL!) that hover, eagle like, over the holding water.  Probably cut down on window replacement for the homeowner, too! 
2017/09/13 13:45:55
bigbear2012
I have a serious question.
Why don't people just use a weighted fly line?
2017/09/13 13:54:06
Lucky13
I think people who like to swing flies are more and more getting into sink tips or the Rio Versitips as they get the fly down nicely and put a lot less strain on the caster than shot.  But the folks who are standing on the rocks to fish that part of the zone are basically right on top of the holding water, and are usually fishing nymph or egg baits more or less up and down, casting upstream mending for a dead drift through the holding water, then a short swing as the fly comes to the surface, and the sink tip systems don't cover that as well as a floating line and shot (bobber optional!)  As a person who likes to swing flies I never cared for the water on  the rocks although I did try fishing it a couple of times.  And you can swing flies there, but I always found it more enjoyable to swing them from the other side, the one or two times I could actually get in there!
2017/09/13 13:57:15
hot tuna
A couple things. I tried before using 1. It's a nightmare to cast, at least for myself. Also in a current it gets a lot of drag.
Some folks use a weighted tip leader such as T-11 or T-13. Again I didn't have much success with them as they are more suited for swinging the fly, which does work well in fall and spring but not so much a dead drift during winter.

I'm sure there will be a better answer then mine but this is my observation from my experience
2017/09/13 14:08:06
bigbear2012
I've tried it a few times and had some luck, but never see anyone using them. so, I thought they might be against the regs.
 
2017/09/13 14:16:56
pafisher
One #7 lead split shot is all that I need in that spot,cast a little up stream and high stick it until line gets downstream,then cast again.But I hardly ever fish there anymore.
2017/09/13 15:00:12
hot tuna
I don't fish the rocks but use the bridge as access to walk upstream. I have however fished right upstream where the rocks end and you can actually get into the water.
I was just curious as to how the bridge point would not be considered pfr.
2017/09/13 15:52:35
Lucky13
As Clint pointed out, he may own right to the water, and when the State was acquiring easements, the former owner(s) may have decided not to sell.  If there is a path available, you should be able to access most of what has been open in the past, just not the straight up and down spots along the rocks and wall.   I've seen situations where it looked like an owner sold all the access rights except where you could access from the road, and there is therefore no access except for the landowner, they always bothered me. 
2017/09/13 18:10:40
hot tuna
It's no worries to me personally. Just trying to figure out what was once is no more. We have had fences go up along bridge access on the mighty hudson tribs but they are always beyond a point from the bridge as that seems eminent domain for the counties. Kinda like owning road frontage until the county or town widens the road 7 feet on each side or a power supply pole goes in .

Again, no worries and I hope the new landowner got river frontage property if NYS failed . Not my choice.
Oh yea. I know of plenty places in the adks that have pfr but no access points. That's kinda shady and someone's pork fund

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