2024/12/06 22:40:27
Mitchell
JerryS
 
Here is a man in his twilight years that lost a wife and daughter in a car accident, and a son to brain cancer. 



 
Oh boo f**king hoo! Why do you leftists always play the sympathy card for Biden on that? Death, and death by accidents or disease, are a fact of life. Live with it!!
2024/12/06 23:51:48
JerryS
Mitchell
JerryS
 
Here is a man in his twilight years that lost a wife and daughter in a car accident, and a son to brain cancer. 



 
Oh boo f**king hoo! Why do you leftists always play the sympathy card for Biden on that? Death, and death by accidents or disease, are a fact of life. Live with it!!




What is your response to my question at the start of my post?
2024/12/07 09:48:56
Porktown
genieman77

 
that you're concerned Bing will bop you?
 

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..KTF 

I believe the fourth post in the thread.

Your talk of invading Venezuela is one of the dumbest things ever posted. Including OxyBob and Yungguru. We all know you aren’t that stupid. Or should we say our term of the week?
2024/12/07 12:00:01
genieman77
Porktown
 
 
post 4

To me, there needs to be trade agreements with Central American countries and other incentives for companies willing to produce some of the low paying junk manufacturing that we rely on China for. This provides jobs for these people keeping them there, while less reliance on China. It also pumps more money in their communities allowing for more of their money to fight the gangs and not our money. I’m all for “bringing manufacturing back”. But the low paying junk manufacturing that we all take advantage of, if relocated in the US with livable wages, would triple the price. The more lucrative manufacturing, make every effort to bring back here.




 
sounds great in theory 
How would it work when practical realities are considered? 
who pays for all the infrastructure needed to support modern manufacturing? 
Power, water, roads/rails etc? 
 
China had a plan to become the world's manufacture and committed  YUGE dollars over a generation for infrastructure to support that goal.
 
who will pay to do that in countries like Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala?
What deep pocket Big Corps are  willing to invest in corrupt, unstable  dictator  govs like Venezuela? 
 
49% of illegal migrants are Mexican. (79% over all are Mex, central/south America and Carribean)   
Just in Mexico, how much more manufacturing is needed to limit that amount?
secondary to that, what incentive to stay for those that cross the border when they can make 2 to 3 times as much here  in a slaughter house or on a roof  than what they make in one of the myriad of Maquiladoras currently in their home country?
 
Not dogging the "captain obvious" talking points of "provide opportunity and safety there" .
I'd just like hear details of how we in the USA would/could help facilitate that.
 
 
 
..KTF
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
2024/12/07 12:13:02
ICE NUT
JerryS
BloodyHand
MyWar
Hunter Biden was convicted on a gun charge and income tax evasion.

I thought republicans didn’t believe in taxes and want everybody to have all the guns they want. So what’s the problem?

Than I absolutely love this guy. He's got nothing so he has to chime in with some horse pucky to try and stir the pot. I get it, it's all about an angle. Here's my angle.... That was a horrible precedent sent. From now on all family members of the president can be as corrupt as they want as they will receive a pardon for their crimes.
 
BH




How does a father pardoning his son set a horrible precedent, while Trump pardoning Flynn, Stone, Bannon, Manafort, Kushner, etc.. is ok with you? 
 
Here is a man in his twilight years that lost a wife and daughter in a car accident, and a son to brain cancer.  How can you be critical of him protecting his only living son from a vengeful incoming administration that vows to prosecute the "Biden crime family".  I think most fathers would do the same thing.
 
I would think less of Joe Biden if he didn't pardon Hunter.  
 


Its not the pardon for his son every one of us would do the same IT WAS THE LYING about it thats the issue.He should have come out many months ago and said what every one of us would say YOUR **** RIGHT I WILL


2024/12/07 12:49:56
JerryS
ICE NUT
 
Its not the pardon for his son every one of us would do the same IT WAS THE LYING about it thats the issue.He should have come out many months ago and said what every one of us would say YOUR **** RIGHT I WILL





I agree completely, he shouldn't have lied from the start.  Although I want to think the threatening tone of the incoming administration is what changed his mind. 
 
I just don't agree with the people stating he set a bad precedent by pardoning his son, while not having issue with Trump pardoning all of his buddies.
2024/12/07 13:26:24
Porktown
genieman77
I'd just like hear details of how we in the USA would/could help facilitate that.
 
 
 
..KTF
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I too would like to hear politicians and business leaders talk details about this… That is what we have government for, solving complex issues that are of national concern.

If I knew those details, I’d likely be making more per year than our combined net worth. This is something you need a team of economists, government policy and experts that know details of each of these countries culture, local economies, issues they have, etc. Tax incentives to those lesser tech manufacturing companies, contracts lined up in advance and other to get things moving is usually how things like this happen. Again, not talking Venezuela or Haiti. Some of those countries are beyond repair, just pray for a revolution that is favorable to democracy and free market. Your own figures show that Mexico is much of the immigrant issue. Mexico too has also spent decades turning into an industrialized nation. The framework is there. Things like NAFTA made it happen, obviously had its flaws. USMCA addressed some of those flaws, but we can’t always make things about the USA getting the better end of all deals, that end up hurting their economies and causing more to want to migrate. It is a balancing act. We can give minor imbalances, if the outcome is solving a bigger problem. Success in Mexico or other country can spread through Central America. People in the Venezuela/Haiti seeing how neighboring counties are prospering will eventually have them revolting for prosperity as well. We can’t address everything as a short term win for the US. Most international issues are extremely complex and need to be addressed as such. Or we end up having history show us years down the line a worse problem. I.e. leaving weapons behind when we left Iraq or removing Ukraine’s nuclear weapons. But completely different complex issues.

To me, that is addressing some of the roots to a complex issue. Just like a house leak, you obviously need to tear out the wet wall board and replace rotted wood. I’m not against many measures to slowing immigration and doubt anyone doesn’t want criminal migrants deported. Unless as noted, they will be set free and likely to come back, then no real choice other than to incarcerate here. Yet another complex issue that I don’t have the answers for. Again, what our government should be doing. The corpse clearly didn’t have the answers and never heard of any sort of root of the problem planning.
2024/12/07 13:31:46
r3g3
Cute how some try and turn Bidens actions into Trumps fault even in a situation of amnesty where the reality is there is no fault IMHO. President can give amnesty--thats that.
Libs simply cant accept responsibility in some cases as their TDS always says Trump  Trump Trump -sad sad sad.
2024/12/07 14:40:18
crappiefisher
JerryS
BloodyHand
MyWar
Hunter Biden was convicted on a gun charge and income tax evasion.

I thought republicans didn’t believe in taxes and want everybody to have all the guns they want. So what’s the problem?

Than I absolutely love this guy. He's got nothing so he has to chime in with some horse pucky to try and stir the pot. I get it, it's all about an angle. Here's my angle.... That was a horrible precedent sent. From now on all family members of the president can be as corrupt as they want as they will receive a pardon for their crimes.
 
BH




How does a father pardoning his son set a horrible precedent, while Trump pardoning Flynn, Stone, Bannon, Manafort, Kushner, etc.. is ok with you? 
 
Here is a man in his twilight years that lost a wife and daughter in a car accident, and a son to brain cancer.  How can you be critical of him protecting his only living son from a vengeful incoming administration that vows to prosecute the "Biden crime family".  I think most fathers would do the same thing.
 
I would think less of Joe Biden if he didn't pardon Hunter.  
 




 My thoughts on how corrupt our government is... Better hold your nose 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ds1tGbDFtE  

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