Lever Action Deer Rifles

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2008/07/01 23:51:09 (permalink)

Lever Action Deer Rifles

Looking into a lever action rifle for next deer season. The Browning BLR is my first choice, followed by the Marlin XLR. I want a rifle that can handle shots around 50 yds with iron sights. Any advice on a good caliber for either of these models?

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    pghmarty
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/02 02:29:09 (permalink)
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/02 10:45:39 (permalink)
    any cal. will do out to 50 yds.  the reliable 30-30 would be a good choice as would the 308.  you can get this ammo anywhere at a good price. 
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/02 12:03:13 (permalink)
    Since it looks like you are going to be hunting the timber with open sights I would choose the BLR.  It is short and lightweight.  The Marlion XLR is designed for maximizing the advantages of the LeverRevolution ammo.  The barrels are 24 inches which is long for a lever gun that is going to used for short fast shots.

    As far as caliber, the BLR is offered in .308 which is a nice short action round and well suited to your needs.

    Also consider the Marlin Guide Gun in 45/70.  I own one and with thier 18 inch barrels are tough to be for close work.
     
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/02 12:39:43 (permalink)
    I like my Winchester 94 Big Bore .375 Win for hunting in heavy brush.
    It also comes in 444 Marlin

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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/02 13:30:09 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: pghmarty

    I like my Winchester 94 Big Bore .375 Win for hunting in heavy brush.
    It also comes in 444 Marlin



     
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/03 16:39:27 (permalink)
    How about the good old Winchester model 94 in .30-30?  Lotta deer haven fallen to that and ammo is plentiful and relatively cheap.
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/06 10:14:27 (permalink)
    How about a savage 99 in .300savage cal. ,I have flip over mounts and a 4power scope, and have killed deer at 19steps out to 150steps with it.
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/09 02:12:13 (permalink)
    I have the BLR in .308, .257 roberts and .325 short mag.  I would not trade them for any other lever guns I have ever shot, and I have shot a lot of them.  I really like the .308, especially for what you want to shoot.

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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/09 13:00:57 (permalink)
    why not get a model 7 bolt action??? 

    Or are you looking for a fast recovery if you need to throw another round at em?
     
    Any rifle around 30 caliber should be one shot one kill at 50yrds and farily dependable in the brush....Just get some higher grain bullets and bang away at em!
     
    I do like the browning...is that model gun made in this country or is is Jap?
     
     

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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/09 13:27:50 (permalink)
    I noticed a few posts regarding calibers that are good in brush. No gun shoots accuratley through brush, so don't base your decision on it. I agree with carpet bagger, any caliber around .30 would be a good choice.
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/09 14:26:47 (permalink)
    At under 50 yards you are within pistol range.
    I normally hunt with a 30-06 or 270 and carry my 357mag Python, 44mag 629 or .454 Casul
    A slug gun would also work well
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/09 15:37:02 (permalink)
    An article I read a few years back actually showed that a smaller caliber lighter bullet is better in brush, because of the flatter trajectory.  It will actually shoot through the hole you are aiming through rather than lobbing over it and into the brush.

    Better too far back, than too far forward.
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/09 15:46:56 (permalink)
    I think I read the same article, Musky.  I think it was in Guns and Ammo.  They basically said that there's no such thing as a "brush gun".  Although I still feel a lot better shooting a 12 gauge slug through a little bit of briars than a 150 grain 30-06 shell. 
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/09 16:43:09 (permalink)
      My model 81 BLR with gold trigger in .308 is made in Japan.
     
      Might sell a Ruger 77/44, 44 Rem. mag. with less than a box of shells shot out of it.
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/09 17:39:15 (permalink)
    I have a model 81 BLR in .358 Win. With a 250 grain round nose bullet it is simply devastating and shoots half inch groups at 75 yards. I recommend it highly!!
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/09 18:42:03 (permalink)
    IMO
    All I use for rifle season is a 12 gauge. I don't think there is a better gun in the thick cover I hunt. Most shots are less than 50 yards. I have not been dissapointed yet in the performance. Big bullet = big hole. I hunt in Erie County in the thickest crap I can get into. An ounce of lead is a beautiful thing. I use a Mossberg 500. I KNOW that deer is going down if I decide I am going to shoot. I also have a .243 but that doesn't compare in performance. That being said, if I were to consider a lever, it would be a Marlin in the 45/70 , .444 or .450 caliber (it looks like a fine gun).
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/09 19:59:49 (permalink)
    What they mean when they say "That's a good brush gun" is that ..it has a short barrel, thus easier to CARRY in the brush, not SHOOT.....

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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/09 20:02:33 (permalink)
    my son kills a buck every year the first day with the 12 ga. cant beat em, why you hunting in my spot booly, oh wait there are no dear in erie county
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/09 21:00:36 (permalink)
    I know- no deer around here. And no  legal bucks. Everyone should hunt in Alleghany County- it is overrun with BIG bucks.
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/16 08:51:05 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: boolywugger

    IMO
    All I use for rifle season is a 12 gauge. I don't think there is a better gun in the thick cover I hunt. Most shots are less than 50 yards. I have not been dissapointed yet in the performance. Big bullet = big hole. I hunt in Erie County in the thickest crap I can get into. An ounce of lead is a beautiful thing. I use a Mossberg 500. I KNOW that deer is going down if I decide I am going to shoot. I also have a .243 but that doesn't compare in performance. That being said, if I were to consider a lever, it would be a Marlin in the 45/70 , .444 or .450 caliber (it looks like a fine gun).

     
    I killed my first deer with a Mossberg 500.  It took 4 shots, because I had to keep changing my aim to account for the rainbow tragectory.  About 50 yard shot.  But it was a smoothbore barrel and rifled slugs.  I couldn't believe the deer just stood there while I continued to lob shells like an artillery piece.
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/17 23:05:19 (permalink)
    I believe that a miss 50 yards is possible. I know it took alot of shooting to get the right shell for my Mossberg 500. When I put a scope on it, I had to start at square one. Not a lot of fun off the bench but well worth the effort. Once I found that Winchester 1 oz rifled slugs shot very well, I went and bought 20 boxes of the same lot. I'm sure after I am done with them, I will need to start from the beginning again. I did have the gun drilled and tapped for mounts- those saddle clamps won't hold zero with the recoil.

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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/18 02:00:17 (permalink)
    I can understand the miss at 50 yds. from a smooth bore barrel even though you've got a rifled slug. I have had a 1967 Ithaca Featherlight 20 ga. bottom eject for 20 years or more(I'm left handed). I put a rifled slug barrel on it and only shoot Brenneke Sabots and still have a few. On a best day I put 3 slugs in a pieplate at around 100 yards with ironsights,never had a scope. Not bragging but the combo of a rifled barrel and slug are a big difference. I hunted with a 30/30 with a scope for my first couple years as a hunter and I don't like them.Would rather use a slug gun for the knockdown power/brushgun. I missed a couple with the 30/30 in Crawford,but I notch that up to inexperience.

    And the 20 ga. has never had a buck even walk 2 steps from the shot,these were all at 50 yards or less. In case you guys were thinking it wasn't enough power or manly enough for you.It is light too, no sling needed. I won't ever sell this gun,maybe give it to my son if I have one,it's great.
    post edited by gobyking - 2008/07/18 02:11:51
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/21 15:09:20 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: boolywugger

    IMO
    All I use for rifle season is a 12 gauge. I don't think there is a better gun in the thick cover I hunt. Most shots are less than 50 yards. I have not been dissapointed yet in the performance. Big bullet = big hole.

     
    Good answer.  Pump slug gun is a deadly weapon for brush.  I have a mossberg cheapo deluxe 12ga slug gun with rifled bar and scope.  I have a cheap simmons fixed 4 power on it and i get almost as good of a group at 100yrds as i do with my rifle.  The velocity isnt there, but if you shoot Hornaday SST sabots out of it it will punch a hole your fist could fit in...DEADLY
     
    I just bought a new 270 last year.  I got a Remington 700 SPS with stainless bar and action.  Its a decent gun from my messing with it.  I havent put any reloads or quality ammo through it, but it will shoot sub 2in at 100yrds with a 3-9 VX1 Leupold on it.  Dropped 2 deer with it last year with cheap core-lockt 130gr ammo.  
     
    Its a no frills gun, and requires limited maintenence, just for putting meat on the table.  I wish i would have sprung for the Tikka T3 stainless cause i just hear rave reviews about them and their quality and accuracy.  Not to mention they have a free floating barrel, are a little more compact, have a magazine, and come with weaver scope rings.  I might buy one of them in 30-06 in another year or so, or i might just get another one in 270 or 7mm-08.  We will see when the time comes I guess.
     
     

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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/21 21:40:48 (permalink)
    Mossburg 500, 18 1/2 bbl. Imp. cyl. Winchester slugs. Perfect. love it.

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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/21 23:07:13 (permalink)
    6" S&W 629 44mag with Leupold Red Dot Sight, 240gr hollow point
    post edited by pghmarty - 2008/07/21 23:08:16
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/22 10:14:55 (permalink)
    CB
     
    i have a rem 700 in 3006 and a T3 in 243, both are great guns that shoot sub 1" groups.  since you already have a good midsized caliber in the 270, basically a skinny 3006, try a different caliber either a bit bigger or smaller.  i really like the 243, it has enough power to take down deer and some use it for bear but that would only be good for smaller ones, but it can really get out there and perform to 400 yrd.  or go big like and 300win or 338 for that knockdown power and use that as an excuss to book a bear or elk hunt.
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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/23 14:32:12 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: RIZ

    CB

    i have a rem 700 in 3006 and a T3 in 243, both are great guns that shoot sub 1" groups.  since you already have a good midsized caliber in the 270, basically a skinny 3006, try a different caliber either a bit bigger or smaller.  i really like the 243, it has enough power to take down deer and some use it for bear but that would only be good for smaller ones, but it can really get out there and perform to 400 yrd.  or go big like and 300win or 338 for that knockdown power and use that as an excuss to book a bear or elk hunt.


    Riz,

    Just like you said i might end up going smaller...I also wouldnt mind tryin the 270 in a short mag as well.

    I do like the size of the 243 and even the 25-06.  I think the 270 very honestly can down absolutly any animal on the planet.  you can buy better bullets for it that really up the penetration and if you reload you can really push the powder in there for a real hot shooter.

    I just bought a few new boxes of ammo for my 270 the other day to see if i can get a little better grouping out of factory loads...I also have just got an ancient Winchester 30-06 with iron sights that is about 70 years old...Its my great uncles...I could probaly sell it and buy 2 Sako guns...lol

    For whitetail its about as big as i want to go, but i think i would even take a crack at an elk as well with it if i got the oppertunity (i plan on hunting for em some day). 

    I might just spring for a smaller caliber gun like the 243.  What are you shooting best through yours like 100gr?

    Im so limited in the amount of rifle hunting i can do due to local restrictions.  I do get to hunt like 3-5 days a year in WV (which is loaded with deer).  I use a slug gun most of the time, and may end up just upgrading my slug gun to a TC since I get to use it the most.
    post edited by Carpet Bagger - 2008/07/23 14:34:57

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    RE: Lever Action Deer Rifles 2008/07/27 21:33:10 (permalink)
    The 2 best lever action deer rifles I've used is the Win modle 94 or Marlin 366. There both 30-30's
    Its a good brush and heavy cover gun.
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