No deer in Pa.

Next time you make that trip try counting the No Trespassing signs along that same road. It may answer the question of why there are a lot of deer on that stretch.

If you start with 10 you will increase by 33-35% meaning you will end up with 13 or 14, not 20. Living by the road more than the average amount will die. 20% is the average. I didn't say 100% was posted. I suggested you be as observent of the posters as you were of the dead deer and your question may be answered.

Could be you are seeing a surplus of winter kills that have not rotted away yet.
Could be the start of mama's running off of last years fawn to get ready for the new.
There are three times a year you will see increased road kills.
1. the rut
2. spring when the mothers run off last years fawns.
3. early spring when the snow first comes of and the winter road kill is visible.
 
I think around here (Crawford county) there are alot less dead deer along the roads.

ORIGINAL: S-10

Next time you make that trip try counting the No Trespassing signs along that same road. It may answer the question of why there are a lot of deer on that stretch.

 
Posted/private.  Who cares.  There are alot of deer in Pa. I would imagine that across this nation, more deer exist on private land versus public.  It is what it is.
 
Go get them like everyone else.

Hows the antler stew going? There are plenty of deer near highways . In comparison there are hardly any road kills in the ANF . How old are noplacelike home sounds as if you need to educate yourself and hunt somewhere else instead of home . Assumptions , science based management , and ignorance to the rest of penns woods. Your all stuck in your observations of your local situations ; open your minds . If 80% are upset with the current management that is enough to tell me that somethings wrong here or you can have fun hunting in your backyards where all the deer are but don't b*tch when everyones tresspassing on your land because of this crap .... You helped support ... As for you SK you know my stance on your adgenda . Perhaps the few deer left are protesting the mass slaughter the Game commission has allowed and are trying to go into extinction. Time to stoke the fire boys this is gonna be fun ; remember you can't win this we (the sportsmen) have already lost so keep up the banter . While DCNR & the fat cats dine on us .
 
 
       Enjoy your fantasy world oh great trophy boys all hail you the greatest hunters , stewards of wildlife , the only ones that know how to hunt because us other guys are incapable of comprehending the animals to be our prey. I'm still waiting for all of your books to be published since you all know so much . Oh tell do tell of all that is riught in the world great oracles of the alt plan.......

SK ,
     I always thought you were special . For my lack of seeing deer they let me hunt section 2LD where we can walk up & spear the deer . Really save on gas ; I take the "T" downtown to my spot & use Urban Camo baggy jeans & a puffy coat . I think next year we can use bait so the deer walk right up to us.
 
As for the scouting many deer left in MY area due to it's posted nature. Unfortunately the large pockets of deer are in pockets only accessible to the minority. The rest are being poached ; I hear shots at dark alot in the fall and I think I know what high calibers places are at dusk . Beside my house there are 32 deer coming through with high consistency 20 on the West and 12 on the East each night . These numbers are down from 70 when I bought the place 7 years ago. Yes there are some nice bucks running around as there have always been in Northern Butler County. We have bear up here as well , many turkey as well . But my stomping grounds are void of life in Forest county where it matters to me .  

SK,  Your right on the money!!! They(whiners) cry for hours when they should be out scouting or asking for permission. CHANGE IS CONSTANT. Get use to it!

What should actually be constant is a deer management plan.  We are currently in year 7 of what was announced as a 5 year plan.  What's that the pgc says "we can't have a license increase?  Well how bout we give you one week of buck only in some parts of the state? Can we have it then?"
"What's that? The governer says DCNR should be able to determine how many deer are on state land?  OK"
 
Wing and a prayer management....Total Joke.....The PGC is becoming a laughing stock at the national level.

We should not have to adapt many landowners pay taxes , enhance feeding oppurtunities , and keep thier livelyhood in the Allegheny National Forest ... For some corrupt politicans to have thier way with OUR resource is BS ...... I will adapt and not pull the trigger around camp for many years to come , I will encourage others to do the same. If you ever feel froggy PM me & I'll take you to Forest County & let you see for yourself whats left ; atleast they haven't ruined the fishing . As for you're hunting areas theres no doubt in my mind you have plenty of opportunities for deer .

We as hunters pay the pgc to manage. 
 
To manage what?
 
 
DEER for 8% of Pennsylvanian's?
 
I think not..

your are right, 100%.  Which is exactly why all pennsylvanians should not get a say in how an organization funded entirely by hunters is run.   Elect the commisioners.  You buy a license you get a ballot.  If they start buying licences just to get a ballot, good for the pgc they get the increased revenue and then those other 92% get a say.  Until then let the 8% decide how they would like the resource management they are funding is done.

Yeah, I did say 8%.   It's not, it's managed for 100%. 
 
Trespassers??
 
I hunt public land.  The horrid managed, no deer, PA public land.   Oh the horror!!!
 
 
Cry me a river DC.
 
 
 
 
 

Better yet . I used to hunt public land as well until too many folks adapted as you trophy guys tell us to daily...... I hope you don't get adapted upon as I did. I set a treestand up had a guy post on the ground 40ft from as if he was going to outgun me from my sniper position a few years back . That did it for me ; now I only bow hunt private land. Gave the rifles to the kids.

Cry me a river DC.
 
Pi$$ in the wind as usual ole pal. Good luck Saturday atleast we can count on the fish commission . They manage the fish for all fisherman that buy the trout stamp. LOL

gamelands do affect 100% of the people as the municipalities with them in them do not get the tax revenue that they would if they were not gamelands......so which way do you want it?
 
And the last time I checked, the reason that we have any deer at all is that our monies pay the salaries of the people (PGC) that saved the deer herd and brought it back from near extinction in the state, so actually we do pay for deer.