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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/10 20:43:58 (permalink)
Just curious. What church is the esteemed Reverend Sharpton the leader of? To me, he is now and has always been a pandering race baiting poverty pimp. It is a good question, though. How is it that the IRS never came after him?

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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/10 21:11:42 (permalink)
Peaceful protesters continue.... destroying public property and now peacefully tearing down statues.

Gotta love them peaceful protest.

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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/10 23:46:20 (permalink)
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Ahh if ya took the time to look its happened a number of times with pilots.
annnnd how bout the Dr who just got arrested for taking cash for drug script over the past few years- also hitting up insurance for the visits too.
Also every now and then somebody pops up who was in business and wasn't even a real doctor----
NO PLACE IS PERFECT


What has happened “a number of times”? An aviation disaster followed by every republican in the country simultaneously throwing their hands up in the air while saying “just a few bad apples, not a big deal, we don’t need to fix anything!” I don’t recall that happening “a number of times”.

What I recall is that aviation disasters are usually followed by (1) thorough investigations, (2) responsible parties being held accountable, and (3) systemic changes made when called for. We don’t just say “NO AIRPLANE IS PERFECT” and move on, we fix the problem.

Why do we not take the same approach to law enforcement?
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 01:39:57 (permalink)
Couldn't people just burn down airports to solve the problem?
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 10:43:11 (permalink)
Well the Seattle story gets  worse--
They have barricaded the borders of the 6 block area they control and are forcing people to produce Id to get in and out or to go home within the "borders".
Armed  "guards" patrol within and at the gates of their barricades enforcing the ID requirements.
Reports are coming in that the armed people are 'shaking down' business people for cash.
This isn't a protest, its  an armed takeover of a portion of America and cannot be tolerated.
These are the tactics of so many Socialist and Communist Countries.
Show me your papers- Control of ingress and egress and taking money by force.
Its gone far too far and I fear what they will do next.
Might think if an armed  white supremist group had done this it woulda been handled already-
Seems that their utopia is actually an armed Socialist control of John Q-not surprised at all.
Sounds like what happened to those South American Countries that went way Left.
 
END IT-NOW--Send in the troops.
 
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 10:54:36 (permalink)
quote year 2013.... American Airlines is having some computer trouble, and it seems to be pretty bad.



So using the above statement as one (of many) example(s).

It would be OK to take complete control & defund the airline industry because of, one bad computer program? BUTT WAIT..... MyLiar says

MyLiar

What I recall is that aviation disasters are usually followed by (1) thorough investigations, (2) responsible parties being held accountable, and (3) systemic changes made when called for. We don’t just say “NO AIRPLANE IS PERFECT” and move on, we fix the problem.



WELP... Fast forward 7 years later...

quote

Boeing's troubled 737 Max has run into a new glitch.... 2020




BUTT WAIT...... Find one glitche and get the second one free.

quote

The source said the issue is not related to the software revisions Boeing made to address the cause of two fatal crashes that killed 346 people,




So long story short.... no matter how much investigating, no matter how many times we hear the politicians promising to "fix" the problem.... THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE GLITCHES in the programming.

In closing may I say, after the 349 killed, we didn't see radical groups burning down airports, blocking runways, setting airplanes ablaze, closing down terminals, attacking Air line captains or airport security.... now, did we?

No... what we see is those affected, protesting peacefully, in a court of law, allowing due ("true peaceful) process" take it's course.

BTW.... will the developers and programmers be personnaly held responsible for the 349 killed because of a "glitch"???

If the computer Einstein's can't prevent glitches in a computer program, how the hell can anyone know what is going on in a human brain.

Thank all y'all very much and have a nice day.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 11:18:37 (permalink)
r3, those weapons at the "new boarder crossings" in Seattle. Any thought to "Fast & Furious" weapons gone missing, under Eric Holder???
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 11:37:38 (permalink)
Seattle is a **** hole imo a bunch of hippy vegan people, that "antifa" group threatened to go to Idaho to burn there city's down. Idk if any of you seen but those boys saddled up and were not letting that happen. So they stayed home and did it in there own state. Not saying it's right I think antifas skulls need busted but if you cater to the hippys there gonna do hippy ****. The mayor let it happen! How dumb are you ? Taking pages from wolf's chapter? But your right had it been "right wing racist" the story would have live coverage.24/7

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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 11:41:22 (permalink)
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3rd Amendment.

Had to look it up. It places restrictions on the quartering of solders in PRIVATE homes without the owners consent , forbidding the practice in peacetime. Key word here being "private." Last I heard, motels and hotels ain't private.


 
Did you seriously edit the Constitution?  Then base an entire argument off of the part that you added???  

Amendment III

No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
 
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/third_amendment
 
 
 


What is your point? I quoted the amendment verbatim. The troops in DC where quartered in what, motels/hotels? By definition they are open to the public, not a  private residence. To the best of my knowledge the owners of said establishments did't throw the troops out, the mayor of DC did. I don't think she had any legal basis do do so.

"The cause of freedom is not the cause of race or a sect, a party or a class-it is the cause of human kind, the very birthright of humanity."Quote by Anna Julia Cooper.
 
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 13:44:40 (permalink)
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What is your point? I quoted the amendment verbatim. The troops in DC where quartered in what, motels/hotels? By definition they are open to the public, not a  private residence. To the best of my knowledge the owners of said establishments did't throw the troops out, the mayor of DC did. I don't think she had any legal basis do do so.


You did NOT quote in verbatim (meaning exact words, which I have noted and are the same regardless of source), you added a word.  Then based your whole opinion off of that word that you added.
 
Not even then, but now, you are basing your opinion off of the word that doesn't exist in the amendment. 
 
"Any" and "private" are completely different words and change the meaning of the amendment.
 
 
This is the opinion that some people have of the 2nd Amendment.  As written, it says "the right to bear arms", which technically should include nuclear weapons.  Many like to insinuate that it means "small arms".  Or "arms of the time".  
  
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 14:08:36 (permalink)
LOL. The Woke crowd hit the wrong statue.
 
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 15:12:48 (permalink)
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Well the Seattle story gets  worse--
They have barricaded the borders of the 6 block area they control and are forcing people to produce Id to get in and out or to go home within the "borders".
Armed  "guards" patrol within and at the gates of their barricades enforcing the ID requirements.
Reports are coming in that the armed people are 'shaking down' business people for cash.
This isn't a protest, its  an armed takeover of a portion of America and cannot be tolerated.



That is the scare mongering garbage that Fox News is pushing. Its totally and 100% wrong, and if you are interested in what is REALLY happening, this article from the Seattle Times paints a more objective picture of the Autonomous Zone
 
The whole thing is largely symbolic, and its basically one huge concerted act of civil disobedience, but its far from the lawless dystopian nightmare that Fox wants it to be. In fact by all accounts, its relatively peaceful because there aren't any cops attacking protesters with rubber bullets and tear gas. 
 
 
r3g3
These are the tactics of so many Socialist and Communist Countries.
Show me your papers- Control of ingress and egress and taking money by force.
Its gone far too far and I fear what they will do next.
Might think if an armed  white supremist group had done this it woulda been handled already-
Seems that their utopia is actually an armed Socialist control of John Q-not surprised at all.
Sounds like what happened to those South American Countries that went way Left.
 
END IT-NOW--Send in the troops.
 

 
Besides the fact that none of these things are happening... What you are actually referring to is authoritarianism (not socialism). And using military force against your own citizens, as you suggest, is something you see all of the time in authoritarian regimes like China, Iraq, North Korea, Russia etc.
 
But yea man, lets cross our fingers and hope that Trump orders US soldiers to kill Americans in the streets of Seattle. In fact I can't think of a better gift to the Biden campaign than Trump being responsible for the murder of US citizens. Hell, if Trump is stupid enough to actually do something like this, Biden might even throw him in jail after Trump loses in a landslide.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 15:41:22 (permalink)
WELLL- IF THERE WAS ANY DOUBT IN ANYONES MIND- WE NOW KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU STAND.
Go South- you and Maduro would be great buddies.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 15:58:09 (permalink)
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r3g3
Well the Seattle story gets  worse--
They have barricaded the borders of the 6 block area they control and are forcing people to produce Id to get in and out or to go home within the "borders".
Armed  "guards" patrol within and at the gates of their barricades enforcing the ID requirements.
Reports are coming in that the armed people are 'shaking down' business people for cash.
This isn't a protest, its  an armed takeover of a portion of America and cannot be tolerated.



That is the scare mongering garbage that Fox News is pushing. Its totally and 100% wrong, and if you are interested in what is REALLY happening, this article from the Seattle Times paints a more objective picture of the Autonomous Zone
 
The whole thing is largely symbolic, and its basically one huge concerted act of civil disobedience, but its far from the lawless dystopian nightmare that Fox wants it to be. In fact by all accounts, its relatively peaceful because there aren't any cops attacking protesters with rubber bullets and tear gas. 
 
 
r3g3
These are the tactics of so many Socialist and Communist Countries.
Show me your papers- Control of ingress and egress and taking money by force.
Its gone far too far and I fear what they will do next.
Might think if an armed  white supremist group had done this it woulda been handled already-
Seems that their utopia is actually an armed Socialist control of John Q-not surprised at all.
Sounds like what happened to those South American Countries that went way Left.
 
END IT-NOW--Send in the troops.
 

 
Besides the fact that none of these things are happening... What you are actually referring to is authoritarianism (not socialism). And using military force against your own citizens, as you suggest, is something you see all of the time in authoritarian regimes like China, Iraq, North Korea, Russia etc.
 
But yea man, lets cross our fingers and hope that Trump orders US soldiers to kill Americans in the streets of Seattle. In fact I can't think of a better gift to the Biden campaign than Trump being responsible for the murder of US citizens. Hell, if Trump is stupid enough to actually do something like this, Biden might even throw him in jail after Trump loses in a landslide.




 
 
LOL. Within 30 seconds of boots hitting the ground in Seattle, this so called Autonomous Zone will fold without a single shot fired.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 16:44:51 (permalink)
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But yea man, lets cross our fingers and hope that Trump orders US soldiers to kill Americans in the streets of Seattle. In fact I can't think of a better gift to the Biden campaign than Trump being responsible for the murder of US citizens. Hell, if Trump is stupid enough to actually do something like this, Biden might even throw him in jail after Trump loses in a landslide.




Be careful, your real agenda is showing. Most of us knew this long ago about you. No matter how many people are harmed, in any way or fashion, it's okay by you, as long as it reflects badly on Trump in your eyes. The end justifies the means. Fortunately normal people do not view things thru you eyes.
 
The Covid thing didn't work out as well as you hoped? The recession may not be as bad as you hoped? The Mueller scam? At least you have an impeachment, but most Americans know what that was all about. Normal people are paying more attention to the Democrats failures than Trumps. 
 
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 16:51:48 (permalink)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/06/11/the-autonomous-zone-in-seattle-is-a-harbinger-of-americas-future-if-politicians-dont-start-working-together/#50ada16173f8
 
I'd expect more of this if we don't change.  Many of us have been talking about this for years.  Not sure if anyone imagined parts of cities would be "taken over" or the protests on the scale they are now.  This divide and conquer mentality has to go.  Both sides.  Why we need something in the middle that represents most Americans views and values.  Down with CNN, FoxNews and the networks that are the tools for division.  But too many have chosen a side and won't back off.  Things are getting uglier every day from it too.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 17:29:56 (permalink)
Pork,
  Its going to get uglier and uglier if its not stopped in its tracks now!!! What there doing is lawlessness,anarcy, looting burning this is not the America most of us love. the vast majority of people in US know there have been injustices ,many over decades but total lawlessness is not the way to change it.What happened to Floyd was a disgrace and it should be prosecuted at fullest extent of the law,and so should the thugs doing the looting and burning.This is not Somalia,or some 3rd world nation enough is enough my fear if it doesn't end the other end of the crazies in America will attempt to end it. Then it will get really ugly!!!!!
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 17:54:45 (permalink)
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Pork,
  Its going to get uglier and uglier if its not stopped in its tracks now!!! What there doing is lawlessness,anarcy, looting burning this is not the America most of us love. the vast majority of people in US know there have been injustices ,many over decades but total lawlessness is not the way to change it.What happened to Floyd was a disgrace and it should be prosecuted at fullest extent of the law,and so should the thugs doing the looting and burning.This is not Somalia,or some 3rd world nation enough is enough my fear if it doesn't end the other end of the crazies in America will attempt to end it. Then it will get really ugly!!!!!

I agree that those looting and rioting should be prosecuted. Beyond this Seattle thing, I personally have only seen protests and a few confederate statues torn down, with rioting and looting stopped the first weekend. I have no issues with the protesting. They can last forever. Those statues should not be in public spaces to begin with, so doesn’t bother me at all that people are taking that into their own hands. They are Jim Crow era blatant racism. Put them in history museums if they are history. That topic has been alive for a long time.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 18:35:39 (permalink)
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LOL. The Woke crowd hit the wrong statue.
 
https://twitter.com/still...70967129370550273?s=20


😅😂🤣😂😅


Peaceful protesting at it's finest. Go for boys and girls... destroy history.

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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 18:51:04 (permalink)
Gonna get real interesting when the food supplies run out in newly formed "Eutopia" Washington.

Just as interesting, utility companies expecting payment for services rendered.

Newly formed bureau of law is forcing ransom from business owners while armed guards stop and frisk people.


The whole world watches.. and the plot thickens.

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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 19:13:49 (permalink)
They have a garden planted now! There in it for the long haul! 😂😂😂😂 you can't make this stuff up

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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 19:19:47 (permalink)
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That is the scare mongering garbage that Fox News is pushing. Its totally and 100% wrong, and if you are interested in what is REALLY happening, this article from the Seattle Times paints a more objective picture of the Autonomous Zone
 
The whole thing is largely symbolic, and its basically one huge concerted act of civil disobedience, but its far from the lawless dystopian nightmare that Fox wants it to be. In fact by all accounts, its relatively peaceful because there aren't any cops attacking protesters with rubber bullets and tear gas. 
 
 

 
Besides the fact that none of these things are happening... What you are actually referring to is authoritarianism (not socialism). And using military force against your own citizens, as you suggest, is something you see all of the time in authoritarian regimes like China, Iraq, North Korea, Russia etc.
 
But yea man, lets cross our fingers and hope that Trump orders US soldiers to kill Americans in the streets of Seattle. In fact I can't think of a better gift to the Biden campaign than Trump being responsible for the murder of US citizens. Hell, if Trump is stupid enough to actually do something like this, Biden might even throw him in jail after Trump loses in a landslide.


I'm seeing actual video footage of masked individuals holding clubs and guns as they drag and set barricades blocking roads.

Why the need to carry weapons of any type in this "largely symbolic, and basically one huge concerted act of civil disobedience" ??

Comment of the year

But yea man, lets cross our fingers and hope that Trump orders US soldiers to kill Americans in the streets of Seattle. In fact I can't think of a better gift to the Biden campaign than Trump being responsible for the murder of US citizens



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"It is not enough to succeed; others must fail." —Gore Vidal




Schadenfreude at it's finest.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 23:18:43 (permalink)
Just imagine when the police forces are disbanded!!!! Its coming to a city near you soon.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 23:30:16 (permalink)
I think some of you are under estimating how deep and broad public support is for the protesters right now. Just for example in PA there have been protests in over 100 municipalities in all 61 counties in the state. It’s not just the big cities, there were organized protests in places like Irwin, Grove City, Warren... Its happening all over the country.

https://www.penncapital-s...eres-why-that-matters/

Trump can’t just make it stop by calling in the National Guard. The only way to make this better is by listening to what these people have to say and work on fixing the problem.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/11 23:36:13 (permalink)
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/12 00:16:57 (permalink)
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But yea man, lets cross our fingers and hope that Trump orders US soldiers to kill Americans in the streets of Seattle. In fact I can't think of a better gift to the Biden campaign than Trump being responsible for the murder of US citizens. Hell, if Trump is stupid enough to actually do something like this, Biden might even throw him in jail after Trump loses in a landslide.




Be careful, your real agenda is showing. Most of us knew this long ago about you.
 


What did you know “long ago” about me?

That I’m just some average white guy from Pittsburgh whose had enough ****ty experiences with cops to recognize that there are deep systemic problems with law enforcement in this country?

Yep, you got me. Guilty as charged.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/12 05:59:56 (permalink)
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 Just for example in PA there have been protests in over 100 municipalities in all 61 counties in the state. 

https://www.penncapital-s...eres-why-that-matters/




You need to go back to your Jr. high school civics class and review. There are 67 counties in Pa., not 61.
Here's a quote from your link. Teachers indoctrinating today were themselves indoctrinated when they were in college. This from a "protest" in St. Mary's, Pa. Pretty much says it all about where this crap comes from.
 
 said Dani Catalano, a public school teacher who, along with a group of fellow educators, organized the community gathering against racism. “But if not now, when? I think we’ve all sort of reached the point where enough is enough.”

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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/12 08:07:11 (permalink)
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What did you know “long ago” about me?

That I’m just some average white guy from Pittsburgh whose had enough ****ty experiences with cops to recognize that there are deep systemic problems with law enforcement in this country?

Yep, you got me. Guilty as charged.


...... What did you know “long ago” about me?

🤔 Let me think.., how about being exposed as a liar.

🤔 Let me think.., how about being exposed as one who enjoys failure at the suffering of others. A/K/A Schadenfreude.

🤔 Let me think.., how about one who becomes irrate and turns to "potty mouth" when he gets called out?

🤔 Let me think.., how about one who surfs the internet then posting "proven propaganda" as his rebuttals.

🤔 Let me think.., how about somebody who has just admitted he supports rioting because of his personal problems with police officers?

🤔 Let me think.., how about somebody who has demonstrated (time & time again) he feels intellectually above, those he communicates with.

🤔 Let me ask...., all these "so called supporters" across the nation. How many of "these supporters" would even know what was 'going down' had they not been "locked down", forcing them to stay home, relying on TV and internet media as an only source of entertainment.

🤔 Let me ask..., how is it protesters can wildly run the streets of America yet peace loving folks can't get out to get a hair cut, see their dentist or doctor?

🤔 Let me ask..., can "poll question(s)" be fixed to reflect "only" the intended results?

🤔 Let me ask..., how many years have we heard the Pelosi Swamcrats say they will " fix the problem...." yet the problem "never" gets fixed?

Let me suggest...., MyLiar, quick like a bunny, pack up and move to the "Land of CHAZ".
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/12 08:22:11 (permalink)
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But yea man, lets cross our fingers and hope that Trump orders US soldiers to kill Americans in the streets of Seattle. In fact I can't think of a better gift to the Biden campaign than Trump being responsible for the murder of US citizens. Hell, if Trump is stupid enough to actually do something like this, Biden might even throw him in jail after Trump loses in a landslide.




Be careful, your real agenda is showing. Most of us knew this long ago about you.
 


What did you know “long ago” about me?

That I’m just some average white guy from Pittsburgh whose had enough ****ty experiences with cops to recognize that there are deep systemic problems with law enforcement in this country?

Yep, you got me. Guilty as charged.



 
If you don't do anything stupid or illegal, the police leave you alone.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/12 08:24:47 (permalink)
Well, here is the list of demands....
 
Given the historical moment, we’ll begin with our demands pertaining to the Justice System.
    The Seattle Police Department and attached court system are beyond reform. We do not request reform, we demand abolition. We demand that the Seattle Council and the Mayor defund and abolish the Seattle Police Department and the attached Criminal Justice Apparatus.
    This means 100% of funding, including existing pensions for Seattle Police. At an equal level of priority we also demand that the city disallow the operations of ICE in the city of Seattle.
    In the transitionary period between now and the dismantlement of the Seattle Police Department, we demand that the use of armed force be banned entirely. No guns, no batons, no riot shields, no chemical weapons, especially against those exercising their First Amendment right as Americans to protest.
    We demand an end to the school-to-prison pipeline and the abolition of youth jails. Get kids out of prison, get cops out of schools. We also demand that the new youth prison being built in Seattle currently be repurposed.
    We demand that not the City government, nor the State government, but that the Federal government launch a full-scale investigation into past and current cases of police brutality in Seattle and Washington, as well as the re-opening of all closed cases reported to the Office of Police Accountability. In particular, we demand that cases particular to Seattle and Washington be reopened where no justice has been served, namely the cases of Iosia Faletogo, Damarius Butts, Isaiah Obet, Tommy Le, Shaun Fuhr, and Charleena Lyles.
    We demand reparations for victims of police brutality, in a form to be determined.We demand that the City of Seattle make the names of officers involved in police brutality a matter of public record.
    Anonymity should not even be a privilege in public service. We demand a retrial of all People in Color currently serving a prison sentence for violent crime, by a jury of their peers in their community.
    We demand decriminalization of the acts of protest, and amnesty for protestors generally, but specifically those involved in what has been termed “The George Floyd Rebellion” against the terrorist cell that previously occupied this area known as the Seattle Police Department.
    This includes the immediate release of all protestors currently being held in prison after the arrests made at 11th and Pine on Sunday night and early Saturday morning June 7th and 8th, and any other protesters arrested in the past two weeks of the uprising, the name Evan Hreha in particular comes to mind who filmed Seattle police macing a young girl and is now in jail.
    We demand that the City of Seattle and the State Government release any prisoner currently serving time for a marijuana-related offense and expunge the related conviction.
    We demand the City of Seattle and State Government release any prisoner currently serving time just for resisting arrest if there are no other related charges, and that those convictions should also be expunged.We demand that prisoners currently serving time be given the full and unrestricted right to vote, and for Washington State to pass legislation specifically breaking from Federal law that prevents felons from being able to vote.We demand an end to prosecutorial immunity for police officers in the time between now and the dissolution of the SPD and extant justice system.
    We demand the abolition of imprisonment, generally speaking, but especially the abolition of both youth prisons and privately-owned, for-profit prisons.
    We demand in replacement of the current criminal justice system the creation of restorative/transformative accountability programs as a replacement for imprisonment.We demand autonomy be given to the people to create localized anti-crime systems.
    We demand that the Seattle Police Department, between now and the time of its abolition in the near future, empty its “lost and found” and return property owned by denizens of the city.We demand justice for those who have been sexually harassed or abused by the Seattle Police Department or prison guards in the state of Washington.
    We demand that between now and the abolition of the SPD that each and every SPD officer turn on their body cameras, and that the body camera video of all Seattle police should be a matter of easily accessible public record.We demand that the funding previously used for Seattle Police be redirected into: A) Socialized Health and Medicine for the City of Seattle. B) Free public housing, because housing is a right, not a privilege. C) Public education, to decrease the average class size in city schools and increase teacher salary. D) Naturalization services for immigrants to the United States living here undocumented. (We demand they be called “undocumented” because no person is illegal.) E) General community development. Parks, etc.
We also have economic demands that must be addressed.
    We demand the de-gentrification of Seattle, starting with rent control.
    We demand the restoration of city funding for arts and culture to re-establish the once-rich local cultural identity of Seattle.We demand free college for the people of the state of Washington, due to the overwhelming effect that education has on economic success, and the correlated overwhelming impact of poverty on people of color, as a form of reparations for the treatment of Black people in this state and country.
    We demand that between now and the abolition of the SPD that Seattle Police be prohibited from performing “homeless sweeps” that displace and disturb our homeless neighbors, and on equal footing we demand an end to all evictions.We demand a decentralized election process to give the citizens of Seattle a greater ability to select candidates for public office such that we are not forced to choose at the poll between equally undesirable options. There are multiple systems and policies in place which make it impractical at best for working-class people to run for public office, all of which must go, starting with any fees associated with applying to run for public office.
Related to economic demands, we also have demands pertaining to what we would formally call “Health and Human Services.”
    We demand the hospitals and care facilities of Seattle employ black doctors and nurses specifically to help care for black patients.We demand the people of Seattle seek out and proudly support Black-owned businesses. Your money is our power and sustainability.We demand that the city create an entirely separate system staffed by mental health experts to respond to 911 calls pertaining to mental health crises, and insist that all involved in such a program be put through thorough, rigorous training in conflict de-escalation.
Finally, let us now address our demands regarding the education system in the City of Seattle and State of Washington.
    We demand that the history of Black and Native Americans be given a significantly greater focus in the Washington State education curriculum.We demand that thorough anti-bias training become a legal requirement for all jobs in the education system, as well as in the medical profession and in mass media.We demand the City of Seattle and State of Washington remove any and all monuments dedicated to historical figures of the Confederacy, whose treasonous attempts to build an America with slavery as a permanent fixture were an affront to the human race.
Transcribed by @irie_kenya and @AustinCHowe. Special thanks to Magik for starting and facilitating the discussion to create this list, to Omari Salisbury for the idea to break the list into categories, and as well a thanks to Kshama Sawant for being the only Seattle official to discuss with the people on Free Capitol Hill the night that it was liberated.
Although we have liberated Free Capitol Hill in the name of the people of Seattle, we must not forget that we stand on land already once stolen from the Duwamish People, the first people of Seattle, and whose brother, John T. Williams of the Nuu-chah-nulth tribe up north was murdered by the Seattle Police Department 10 years ago.Black Lives Matter — All day, Every day.
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