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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/25 09:19:50 (permalink)
There are contingency plans for maternity leaves, but they aren't magic.  Something you deal with as a professional, knowing a teammate gave birth, recovering and has something attached to her body that an infant relies on.  I personally do not mind helping out, it is just like a neighbor/friend that can use a hand.  I would not be nearly as receptive of taking on extra work for a dad, unless there isn't a mother present and they are the primary care giver or health issues with mother/child.  A week or possibly two, fine.  Any longer than that and you are no longer a reliable teammate.
 
Reading through that article, something like the UK offers is fine.  2 weeks of time from when the kid is born until 18 years of age for paternity or partner leave.  I have taken a heck of a lot more time off for my kids after their first weeks of life.  Doctor's appointments, picking them up from school with colds, going to their "first" whatever, going to their "last" whatever, etc.  My company gives me a ton of sick time that I can use for taking care of my kids.  I get a ton of vacation time as well that I can use.  I can carry some vacation time over per year and remainder is paid out each year, so not in the use it or lose it type.  I can rearrange my working hours to start early to hit a kid's sporting event in the afternoon/evening.  My job, like many, my workload stays the same, whether I am on vacation for a week, take a sick day, take my kid to a doctor's appointment.  If I need to have something done, I have to do it.  If that means I am working from 6PM-12AM that day, while I am officially taking vacation, so be it.  I know not all jobs allow the same, but many do.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/25 11:09:16 (permalink)
Either or both parents currently can take advantage of time off for the birth OT adoption of a child. It falls under Family Medical Leave Act which provides 12 weeks of unpaid leave from one’s job for qualifying medical issues of which birth and adoption are included.

In addition to the time off, the employer must offer a “similar” position (in case the actual position had to be filled in someone’s absence) upon return.

The primary difference is FMLA is unpaid (the company has the option to make all, a portion, or none of it paid) and what is being proposed is that the leave is paid (there are subversions where the government covers the pay cost and others were the company must pay for the leave).

Studies show that approximately 50% of the workforce is biological female (ranges from 48% to 52%) and that 80% of those employees will at some point leave the workforce, short term or longer term, for child birth/rearing.

Companies can build that into their staffing models with some degree of certainty. To add said same for biological males (or same sex spouses) is a complete wild card for companies beyond the issue of it being paid by the government or by the company.

Being paid to not work, as has been demonstrated recently with the pandemic, has two distinct effects - 1) none, the person goes back to work and does not take advantage of the situation as permitted or 2) the person remains off work for as long as is legally permitted (sometimes longer).

Not knowing which will happen is where the company will struggle with staffing. If it is a huge company, more than likely not an issue. But if it is a small company, particularly with specialized worker skills, filling the absence becomes critical. It isn’t always possible to find a temp. It isn’t always possible to find a short-term full service employee. It isn’t always possible to get someone to cover, even at the increased OT cost to the company.

By the leave being unpaid, it reduces the likelihood of the company needing to cover for a long period of time.

Having additional “fill-in” staff more than likely isn’t an option for a small business because carrying that extra labor cost of an employee who “might” be needed throws the labor portion of COGS out of whack (particularly if the fill-in back-up personnel have nothing to do — limited equipment, limited customers, etc., thereby providing little to no ROI).

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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/28 12:48:26 (permalink)
Paid leave out.

Lots of stuff will still make the cut. Doesn’t look like the tax on unrealized capital gains is in there.

https://thehill.com/homen...of-the-biden-framework

If this passes in its (roughly) current form, some media outlets will spin it as capitulation or “defeat” or whatever, but it’s still gonna be huge. And there’s lots of stuff in here that’s gonna help a lot of people.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/28 19:21:42 (permalink)
Yeah, and the Republicans will take the blame even though they don't have a dog in the fight. This is totally a Democrat internal war; Socialists against the Moderates, and some Moderates against much of it, knowing that this is entirely the wrong time to be pumpin' trillions into the economy against the already increasing inflation rate. $26 bucks of high test gas to fill a 6 gallon boat tank ain't my idea of an improving economy.

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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/29 08:25:52 (permalink)
https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-considering-450000-each-for-families-separated-at-border-wsj-2021-10

This ought to get interesting.

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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/29 08:39:45 (permalink)
The transformation of America continues isn't it just great!
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/29 09:50:40 (permalink)
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https://www.businessinsid...-at-border-wsj-2021-10

This ought to get interesting.


So the only source of this info is the WSJ. It’s not coming directly from the administration. Sounds pretty dubious to me, and probably not worth talking about until it happens, and I doubt it ever will (Although it’s possible there might be some financial compensation, it’s not gonna be half a million dollars).

I think I just posted a similar sentiment the other day, but it probably bears repeating… You Trumpets sure do love to be hyper critical of the media when the media makes Trump look bad, but you same folks just fall all over yourselves to push a media narrative that supports a narrative that you like.

What’s next? Somebody gonna post the video of the black dude punching a white lady in the face on a NYC subway? That’s been making the rounds on conservative social media too.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/29 09:51:20 (permalink)
I saw that too DAr- its disgusting and likely the most insulting depraved cost ever put on the people 
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/29 13:14:42 (permalink)
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https://www.businessinsid...-at-border-wsj-2021-10

This ought to get interesting.


So the only source of this info is the WSJ. It’s not coming directly from the administration. Sounds pretty dubious to me, and probably not worth talking about until it happens, and I doubt it ever will (Although it’s possible there might be some financial compensation, it’s not gonna be half a million dollars).

I think I just posted a similar sentiment the other day, but it probably bears repeating… You Trumpets sure do love to be hyper critical of the media when the media makes Trump look bad, but you same folks just fall all over yourselves to push a media narrative that supports a narrative that you like.

What’s next? Somebody gonna post the video of the black dude punching a white lady in the face on a NYC subway? That’s been making the rounds on conservative social media too.


If what you got from the article, which was posted on several outlets was that this was a Trump slam, then you better get some TDS meds because he is living rent free in your head.

For those that aren’t obsessed with anyone, the gist of the article is we get to pay taxes in order to pay $450,000 per person to persons who violated federal law by illegally entering the country. That is akin to paying the person breaking and entering into your house because you threw them out - except in this case, they were not thrown out.

And the only reason the article is pointed toward the Trump divisions of families is to mask the fact that the Obama administration separated more families, but paying them will (if this flies) get slipped in under the precedence set here.

BTW, I don’t name call you (under an incorrect presumption on your part, no less), so I expect equal treatment by you no name calling me.

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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/29 13:47:37 (permalink)
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https://www.businessinsid...-at-border-wsj-2021-10

This ought to get interesting.


So the only source of this info is the WSJ. It’s not coming directly from the administration. Sounds pretty dubious to me, and probably not worth talking about until it happens, and I doubt it ever will (Although it’s possible there might be some financial compensation, it’s not gonna be half a million dollars).

I think I just posted a similar sentiment the other day, but it probably bears repeating… You Trumpets sure do love to be hyper critical of the media when the media makes Trump look bad, but you same folks just fall all over yourselves to push a media narrative that supports a narrative that you like.

What’s next? Somebody gonna post the video of the black dude punching a white lady in the face on a NYC subway? That’s been making the rounds on conservative social media too.


If what you got from the article, which was posted on several outlets was that this was a Trump slam, then you better get some TDS meds because he is living rent free in your head.

For those that aren’t obsessed with anyone, the gist of the article is we get to pay taxes in order to pay $450,000 per person to persons who violated federal law by illegally entering the country. That is akin to paying the person breaking and entering into your house because you threw them out - except in this case, they were not thrown out.

And the only reason the article is pointed toward the Trump divisions of families is to mask the fact that the Obama administration separated more families, but paying them will (if this flies) get slipped in under the precedence set here.

BTW, I don’t name call you (under an incorrect presumption on your part, no less), so I expect equal treatment by you no name calling me.


What I meant was that if this was an uncorroborated, anonymously sourced report about “Trump wants to do this or that” when he was in office, then his defenders would be countering with “lying, corrupt MSM is being mean to Trump this or that”.

But now that we have an uncorroborated report that originated from a single right leaning media outlet (every article I could find cites the same original WSJ article as the source btw), the same Trump people will accept it as a fact.

It’s a matter of applying the same standards when the media reports something you want to believe compared to when the media reports something you don’t want to believe.

So now this absurd report is out there, whether it’s true or not. And whether Biden ever actually pays a half million dollars each to all of these people, the people that *want* to believe it’s true, will either (1) believe it was seriously considered as a policy proposal, or (2) they will believe it actually happened.

And those people that believe it were the same Trump people that complained so loudly about “the MSM” when it was the other way around.

Now I could be wrong. It could be a policy that is actually under consideration. But we do not know that for a fact because this information certainly did not come directly from the Biden administration, and it is a looooong way from actually happening. If/when it ever does, or if the Biden administration corroborates that it’s under consideration, then it will merit debate.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/29 14:32:58 (permalink)
Let's go Brandon

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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/29 18:17:05 (permalink)
Pope to Biden " nooo thats not a dress I'm wearing and please stop sniffing me"
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/29 18:17:06 (permalink)
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/29 19:36:18 (permalink)
Guess Obama managed to separate families in a manner that didn't violate the laws of our land.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/29 23:06:52 (permalink)
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Guess Obama managed to separate families in a manner that didn't violate the laws of our land.

Point well taken.

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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/30 07:54:50 (permalink)
Actually no.

Read the law concerning keeping adults with children and the law concerning how long children can be held.

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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/30 09:18:13 (permalink)
Trump put a zero tolerance policy in place. That was a major difference between how migrants were handled when apprehended at the border.

It’s possible that children were separated from their parents under both Obama and Bush, but the DHS doesn’t have data on it so it’s not known for sure. There are claims that family detention centers were mostly used instead, but it’s also extremely likely that some child separation occurred as well.

I think the big difference is that the kind of cruelty that Trump put on display in separating children from their parents was a feature, not a bug. I don’t think that’s true of the Obama administration.

This also brings us back to the old “Democrat immigration paradox”, where Democrats are simultaneously soft and weak on immigration, while at the same time Trumps cruel immigration policies are justified because “Obama did it too” and he deported more immigrants than any previous US President.

None of this means that WSJ report is true or immigrants are getting half a million dollars.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/30 09:46:59 (permalink)
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So the only source of this info is the WSJ. It’s not coming directly from the administration. 
For those that aren’t obsessed with anyone, the gist of the article is we get to pay taxes in order to pay $450,000 per person to persons who violated federal law by illegally entering the country. 
So now this absurd report is out there, whether it’s true or not. And whether Biden ever actually pays a half million dollars each to all of these people, the people that *want* to believe it’s true, will either (1) believe it was seriously considered as a policy proposal, 



People all over the world read the WSJ, both print & internet. It doesn't matter if it actually came from the WH or is purely rumor, and it does not matter whether it actually happens or not, for whoever was behind it, the mission is accomplished. Millions are gonna be comin' to get their money and the administration is not the least bit interested in stopping them; their actions, (or inactions), about border security is part of their plan.
BTW, Congress is calling for more info on the subject.

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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/30 10:02:32 (permalink)
If they wanted a story that would fire up the border even worse than it is now THIS IS that story-
its been bad down there and gonna be far worse very soon.
Keeping their promise to Fundamentally change America
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/30 12:12:56 (permalink)
All this outrage over approx $1B.  Since Trump got Mexico to pay for his useless $15B wall, surely we can get them to pick up this tab also. 
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/30 12:23:45 (permalink)
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It doesn't matter if it actually came from the WH or is purely rumor,


So you think it’s OK if the WSJ publishes stories alleged to be facts, based purely on rumors? You actually think that’s responsible journalism?

You same Trump people that constantly ran around whining about how the media lied about Trump and the press was mean to him and blah blah blah… But this is totally fine?

Is there any level of self awareness on your end here? Or are you just so firmly planted in your bubble where no matter what it is, it’s ok when “your side” does it?
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/30 12:39:18 (permalink)
It’s worth noting that Washington Post is reporting that they have corroborated the WSJ reports so this could very well could be true.

However t’s also worth noting that these aren’t just voluntary payments that the administration is handing out because Biden feels bad for them. This would be for settlements of civil suits in which the ACLU sued the federal government on behalf of the families who were separated. So the federal government can either negotiate settlement payments now or risk going to court where a judge may award them even greater monetary damages.

In this context, the full story is a bit different.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/10/30 15:33:25 (permalink)
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It doesn't matter if it actually came from the WH or is purely rumor,


So you think it’s OK if the WSJ publishes stories alleged to be facts, based purely on rumors? You actually think that’s responsible journalism?

You same Trump people that constantly ran around whining about how the media lied about Trump and the press was mean to him and blah blah blah… But this is totally fine?

Is there any level of self awareness on your end here? Or are you just so firmly planted in your bubble where no matter what it is, it’s ok when “your side” does it?



MyWar, you are sooooo F'ed up. You think the absolute worst of every thing that does not agree with your philosophy and ideology. I never said anything about "alleged facts". Let me see if I can get this down to your level so that you might understand. If it's true, it's gonna be a nightmare at the border as everybody that heard about it thinks they're gonna get a basket of money; even if it's not true, it's gonna be a nightmare at the border 'cause they've already heard it, believe it, and they're comin' for their basket of cash. Now go back and read again and see if you can find where I said it's ok to publish unconfirmed news reports. Famous words of Bugs Bunny. "What a maroon"!
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/11/11 08:49:20 (permalink)
Let's go BRANDON!
 
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/inflation-is-a-now-big-problem-for-biden-180200042.html
 
Inflation up 6.2%, likely to stick around.  Hmm....who was that prognosticator on here awhile back that said there was no inflation????????
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/11/11 11:33:52 (permalink)
I read a few articles this morning on whatever the iphone News popped up.  One had a map of the US and showed what the inflation was per state.  PA is actually one of the lowest in the country.  Something like 5%, which is still way too much.  Some of the other areas were close to 10%...
 
I also read a bunch of things that were driving it.  New car and used car prices are big, same with real estate.  So, if you avoid those, able to hold off on a new car/house, you really aren't hitting that 6.2% or 5% that it is in PA.  It is a bummer since it ruined plans of mine and I am due to upgrade my wheels, but should be able to get by for another year or two in my old clunker.  No doubt gas has sky rocketed.  But it seems to do that every 5-10 years.  OPEC nations did not like the idea of losing money the past two years and see their opportunity now to get it back.  Which then ripple effects on everything that either needs transportation, which is pretty much everything.  They don't seem to care.  Eventually when economies crash, they lose profits and are forced to adjust.
 
It is just like the talk of $15/hr minimum wage.  All of this will end up hitting the middle class first, but last to catch up.  Unless you are in one of these companies that are completely bending people over, you are not likely to get a pay adjustment to meet inflation.  Hopefully it plateaus before too long and doesn't wipe away the worth of savings of millions of people in the process.  Can only hope that your investment returns are at least keeping up with inflation.
 
The Dems need to drop the socialism nonsense legislation now and deal with the real issues or be ready for a massive red wave next fall.  They passed the important bipartisan legislation, move on.  Funny that their "most pressing" items in this socialism bill, happen to be the lowest on the graph of inflationary items in your article...  Not that they could have predicted what the highest inflation items would be when they drafted that garbage.  That bill was a bad idea before inflation, downright handing over the power to the GOP if they keep pushing it with inflation issues. 
 
Put your focus on what can ease things now, without selling out tomorrow.  Subsidizing big oil companies to make gas cheaper, heck no.  They are printing money in profits already.  Releasing reserve oil or temporarily cutting taxes on fuel in states like PA that do it, sure.  They can recoup some of that money from infrastructure funding.  Pretty sure our fuel taxes in PA go to infrastructure.  Not really the intent of the infrastructure bill, but crisis's call for crisis management.
 
 
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/11/11 13:35:13 (permalink)
The Biden/Harris campaign slogan is just like the Obama/Biden slogan.
"Life Sucks, Get Used To It"
They set the bar so high, you need a shovel to dig it up.
Oh, that's right, shovel ready wasn't quit shovel ready
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/11/11 13:52:23 (permalink)
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I also read a bunch of things that were driving it.  New car and used car prices are big, same with real estate.  So, if you avoid those, able to hold off on a new car/house, you really aren't hitting that 6.2% or 5% that it is in PA.  It is a bummer since it ruined plans of mine and pretty due to upgrade my wheels, but should be able to get by for another year or two in my old clunker.  No doubt gas has sky rocketed.  But it seems to do that every 5-10 years.  OPEC nations did not like the idea of losing money the past two years and see their opportunity now to get it back.  Which then ripple effect on everything that either needs transportation, which is pretty much everything.  They don't seem to care.  Eventually when economies crash, they lose profits and are forced to adjust.

 


I believe gas prices alone account for 50% of that 6% increase. And gas prices are up all over the world, not just in the US. You are correct - OPEC members are going to sit on this cash cow as long as they can.

China also has an inflation problem even worse that the U.S., and that will have a ripple throughout the world. Their consumer price index jumped over 13% since this time last year, and over 10% since September.

There isnt much that the Fed and/or the federal government can do about the big drivers of inflation right now, although it’s very easy for right wingers to attack Biden on it. I’d expect Yellen to announce some measures aimed at blunting the effects, but some inflation is here to stay as long as worldwide supply chain disruptions exist.

By other measures though, the US economy is recovering. Unemployment is 4.6% and trending downward, wages have increased 4.9% in the last 12 months, and the economy is adding jobs like crazy. Right wingers were creaming their jeans over stats like this when Trump was in office but they are strangely silent about it now.

But the recovery is also paradoxically making inflation worse, because demand increases when people have more money in their pockets. The Fed should probably raise interest rates, but I seriously doubt that will happen because that usually has the unwanted side effect of slowing economic growth.

What it really comes down to is that there are no quick and easy solutions. We are coming out of the worst global pandemic in over a hundred years. Expecting things to go back to normal overnight is just not realistic.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/11/11 14:14:52 (permalink)
Let's go Brandon,and November 2022 will solve most of the for mentioned problems,ya know the ones that didn't start till Brandon and gang took over.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/11/11 16:26:10 (permalink)
https://theintercept.com/2021/11/11/inflation-saudi-arabia-biden-mbs-oil/?utm_campaign=theintercept&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR0FVMf0X7VWqHHMvLs1ZxIRXW00lINnh-r7A2HU639EFH4a04XwxpCx81U


Here’s an interesting take on what’s driving gas prices. All Biden needs to do is kiss some Saudi @ss and sell them more weapons, like Trump did.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/11/11 16:59:25 (permalink)
 
The China inflation is possibly more worrisome than what we are dealing with.  They are on the brink of collapse, with out economy dependent on theirs.  They go into a recession, we follow.  They go into a depression, we follow.
 
One thing that should have happened that definitely would have helped, was targeting the stimulus payments.  At least one person was saying to do on these boards a long time ago.  Some politicians were calling for it as well.  People took all of their money away from the services and put it in consumer goods and many of the same consumer goods that put a run on those items.  That was predicted by many to happen, why they suggested targeting the funds to industries that were visibly being hurt the most.  The non-targetted stimulus payments made it much worse, putting even more pressure on some markets, while their factories struggled to keep up.  With an avalanche effect of limited supplies for those factories, competing and driving their costs up, while we fed it with the previous train wreck and current dumpster fire's free "vote for me" (pronounced - stim-u-lus) money.  We should have had it as either tax credits that can be used for services or prepaid cards or some sort of vouchers that were for services only or some other way that those stimulus payments could have went to those industries hurt the most.  Someone could have easily figured out a way for the funds to be targeted a bit more.  I can just hear the complaints now about infringing on the freedom to be able to spend where I want.  M'erica!!!
 
The government should have a pretty good idea of what those industries are that were hurt and able to do something now to help.  Instead of focusing efforts on free college, free child care, free stay at home pay, maybe do something to support of those industries noted, like they should have done twice already?  Make it temporary and targeted.  Make going out cheaper than eating, if covid is a concern have it be take out.  Have a cruise ship be cheaper than going on an Amazon spending spree, they have protocols to help be safe.  Have government provided training for truck drivers.  Waive tolls/fares and DOT fees temporarily on logistics.  Make it hard for those 55 year old truckers that decided to retire early, to only see $$$ and get back to work for a few months.  Government provided bus/train fair for all to try to keep M's of gallons of gas burned away when people could be commuting for free.  Subsidize airfare to try and get more people flying to save the airlines, instead of just handing them $, let American's use the service.  Subsidize the scrubbers for the power industry to keep coal an alternative for energy at least for the short term.  Make it as clean as can be and as affordable for power companies to actually do.  In agreement they have to provide whatever other environmental equipment or done.  Something to help now, but not sell out long term objectives.  These are all off the top of my head and would definitely need more of a guided approach than what I am saying.  
 
There is just far too much all or nothing in todays politics.  Either completely with me or you are against me.  We are still in the worst medical crisis of our time and dealing with the issues of shutting down 80% of the world for an extended period of time.  We need to drop all of that partisan crap and do what is best for this country for once this century.
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