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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/01 16:09:30 (permalink)
Same FBI that bought into the Steel Dossier 100% and fibbed on its FISA warrants when the Dossier started to unravel???
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/01 21:22:51 (permalink)
We should rush the FBI HQ, then if they kill one of us, sue them for $10M...
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/01 22:03:57 (permalink)
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Is that a different FBI than the one that has had Hunter's laptop for almost two years?  They may be related to that ATF that has not charged Hunter with a felony yet for lying on a gun permit.  I guess that is all fake news.  



Hey, if they got the evidence that Hunter Biden did wrongdoings, arrest him. 
I'm a big Biden fan thus far, and can say unequivocally - if Hunter Biden did something illegal or what have you, hell if anyone does - bring them to justice. 
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/02 08:39:55 (permalink)
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Same FBI that bought into the Steel Dossier 100% and fibbed on its FISA warrants when the Dossier started to unravel???


Ahhhh...the feeling you get when retired cops bash current cops for political purposes because Fox News said so!  
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/02 09:07:43 (permalink)
Ahhhhh- one of them already plead guilty to doing just that- the feeling YOU have from too much MSNBC keeping you from keeping up?
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/03 13:48:47 (permalink)
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Ahhhhh- one of them already plead guilty to doing just that- the feeling YOU have from too much MSNBC keeping you from keeping up?


So you feel the need to bash the entire FBI??  Which is what you did?  No wonder so many people out there feel the need to bash all cops for the actions of a few.  Sad state of affairs.  
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/03 14:50:26 (permalink)
I have read some ideas that Biden has been suggesting investments in Central America to address the border issue.  Only a good idea if handled properly.  Throwing money at problems without a good plan usually ends up in wasted money (see most Federal education plans).   
 
If it is promoting business in the region with trade incentives/other for a certain amount of time.  Assisting their military/police in wiping out their gangs (not with boots, but possibly surveillance/intelligence/training).  I think the only way to fix this situation is addressing the root of it.  Most immigrants would prefer their homelands, if they are safe and have some sort of livelihood opportunities.  
 
We had too many administrations sit around and watch those countries in Central America turn into what they did.  Just like anywhere in the world, when conditions get so bad, citizens of those nations turn into refugees.  When those countries are so close, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to tell you they will try to go to the USA.
 
https://www.reuters.com/w...tem-causes-2021-04-09/
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/03 15:50:25 (permalink)
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We had too many administrations sit around and watch those countries in Central America turn into what they did.  




We have had too many administrations play a direct role in the destabilization of Latin American countries. See Nicaragua, Chile, El Salvador, etc... Just like Islamic terrorism, most of these problems are the legacy of decades of bad cold war foreign policy decisions. Its the consequences of our own actions biting us in the a55.
 
The problem is that Biden won't be able to help these countries turn it around in a single term. And if the next Republican administration simply abandons the efforts the way Trump did the JCPOA or the Paris Accord, then these countries will just backslide and the problems are liable to get worse. So basically the challenge for Biden is to not only come up with a plan for aid that we will help these countries, but it also has to be something that Republicans won't sabotage down the road (because you know they will just undo everything Biden touches).
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/03 16:40:09 (permalink)
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We had too many administrations sit around and watch those countries in Central America turn into what they did.  




We have had too many administrations play a direct role in the destabilization of Latin American countries. See Nicaragua, Chile, El Salvador, etc... Just like Islamic terrorism, most of these problems are the legacy of decades of bad cold war foreign policy decisions. Its the consequences of our own actions biting us in the a55.
 
The problem is that Biden won't be able to help these countries turn it around in a single term. And if the next Republican administration simply abandons the efforts the way Trump did the JCPOA or the Paris Accord, then these countries will just backslide and the problems are liable to get worse. So basically the challenge for Biden is to not only come up with a plan for aid that we will help these countries, but it also has to be something that Republicans won't sabotage down the road (because you know they will just undo everything Biden touches).


My god I sure hope so the republicans will undo everything Ziden and kamoola touches hopefully there will be something left of this country by the time those two clowns are gone or some other country will have to come to our aid since we will become a banana republic
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/03 17:16:39 (permalink)
I think it really depends on how it is set up and if there is measurable progress to whatever actions they take.  I'm sure it would changed so the next guy can claim credit if it works.  That is a never ending process that both sides do.  I could care less if the GOP steals Biden's ground work and claims it is their idea.  As long as they are doing something about the root.  
 
Not even sure how this is a topic, since Mexico paid for a "beautiful" wall that keeps all of the illegal immigrants out?
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/03 17:19:16 (permalink)
Hey War, while bad policy may be there what happens in other countries isnt our responsibility IMHO.
They can all pursue whatever Govt they want as long as they leave us alone IMHO.
Far and away too often we try to nation build and its rarely a pretty sight-Vietnam and Afghanistan are two prime examples of our kids dying our cash spent and nothing to gain because when we leave the people we were trying to 'help' dont step up to the plate and the 'enemy' take over asap when we go.
Paying billions to govts who dont like us in the first place in S America or anyplace else isnt gonna help IMHO unless they step up and ask for help and show they arent gonna just pizz away our dollars and later want more and more and just play us like a buncha dopes.
If they arent our 'friends' in the first place history says they never will be -no matter how much we give them in dollars or blood.
Not talking isolationist  but common sense.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/03 18:51:31 (permalink)
You mean like GM spending 1 billion dollars to build a EV plant in Mexico?  Doesn't sound like building America better  The unions are ****ed and Joe is silent.  What a great leader and uniter!
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/03 19:11:00 (permalink)
There is a difference between nation building in Afghanistan and Vietnam who are half of the way around the world, and providing incentives for our regional neighbors to avoid having such a mess that their population has been flooding our borders for many years before the current President took office. I’m not talking forced democracy either. They can down what they feel is best for their people, minus some sort of human rights fiasco like N Korea. Russia and China are loving the amount of money and military resources that were spent trying to build that wall that Mexico was paying for. Which would do what? Bandaid for a few years at best.

That all said, I would not be opposed to some of the hard line approached mixed in too. No doubt that the change of administration added to the amounts of people feeling the trek to the US is a viable option. But unless you are going to go all out human rights violations the scale of N Korea/China, they are going to keep coming until the root of the cause is addressed.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/03 19:21:34 (permalink)
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Hey War, while bad policy may be there what happens in other countries isnt our responsibility IMHO.
They can all pursue whatever Govt they want as long as they leave us alone IMHO.
Far and away too often we try to nation build and its rarely a pretty sight-Vietnam and Afghanistan are two prime examples of our kids dying our cash spent and nothing to gain


Vietnam, Korea, El Salvador, Afghanistan (the war in the 80s), Nicaragua, etc... those aren’t examples of “nation building”, they were proxy wars. Nobody is suggesting further military intervention, especially me.

An example of “bad policy” is building a stupid border wall. Meanwhile what you should really be doing (if you hate immigrants so much) is sending aid to those countries so the people that live there aren’t so terrified and desperate that they are willing to risk their lives to try to come to the US in the first place.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/03 19:23:19 (permalink)
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You mean like GM spending 1 billion dollars to build a EV plant in Mexico? 


That’s capitalism, ain’t it wonderful!
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/03 23:02:47 (permalink)
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We had too many administrations sit around and watch those countries in Central America turn into what they did.  




We have had too many administrations play a direct role in the destabilization of Latin American countries. See Nicaragua, Chile, El Salvador, etc... Just like Islamic terrorism, most of these problems are the legacy of decades of bad cold war foreign policy decisions. Its the consequences of our own actions biting us in the a55.
 
The problem is that Biden won't be able to help these countries turn it around in a single term. And if the next Republican administration simply abandons the efforts the way Trump did the JCPOA or the Paris Accord, then these countries will just backslide and the problems are liable to get worse. So basically the challenge for Biden is to not only come up with a plan for aid that we will help these countries, but it also has to be something that Republicans won't sabotage down the road (because you know they will just undo everything Biden touches).


My god I sure hope so the republicans will undo everything Ziden and kamoola touches hopefully there will be something left of this country by the time those two clowns are gone or some other country will have to come to our aid since we will become a banana republic



With the GEnIusEs in the GOP fighting amongst each other over the Orange Idiots Insurrection/Inability to deal with a lost election, they likely won't be in power for a hot minute. 
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/04 06:42:35 (permalink)
sure looks like they will soon like 2022 cant come soon enough!!
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/05 08:44:29 (permalink)
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Tech growth stocks are taking one in the Trumper today.  Not sure if it has much to do with the speech last night or not.  Most are coming in with higher than expected quarterly reports too...  I really hope the selloff hasn't started.



You should hoping for a selloff now.  Modest selloffs, even corrections, are healthy for a bull market to continue.  The longer this market goes straight up, the odds increase for a significant selloff (i.e. bear market)


Thanks a lot BOOMER.
 
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/05 11:11:32 (permalink)
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sure looks like they will soon like 2022 cant come soon enough!!


Man, still seems surreal to see the shoe on the other foot. Wonderful times we're living in.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/05 11:42:04 (permalink)
Democrats are gonna have a very hard time maintaining a majority in the House in 2022. They are already losing seats in blue states just based solely on the census count. The new districts haven’t been drawn yet but it’s a safe bet that in states where Republicans control the process, the districts will be gerrymandered to shiit.

The Senate will be interesting though. The map might be more favorable to democrats than it was in 2020 so they could maintain a slim majority or even build on it.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/05 14:16:09 (permalink)
In any event the transformation of america will thankfully come to and end.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/05 15:20:13 (permalink)
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In any event the transformation of america will thankfully come to and end.


It will never come to an end.  It is just a cycle of fringe legislation from both sides, with talking heads trying to convince their followers that it is "what is needed to save our country".  Even when there isn't full control on one side or the other, it is constant bickering and complete hypocritical talk/actions from both sides.  None of the talking heads will stop pushing their party's views and demonizing everything from the other side if there is split control, full control of the other side or full control of their own party.  
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/06 08:36:16 (permalink)
I dont get it. Still the greatest country to live in on the planet, but yet we need to Change it, Transform it. Just political rhetoric IMO.
 
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/06 09:00:05 (permalink)
Read about Bidens Amtrak story- draw your own conclusions
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/06 10:46:45 (permalink)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/30/biden-amtrak/

https://www.foxnews.com/p...onductor-million-miles

Googled "Biden Amtrak Story"
I'm not sure what conclusions you'd expect any level headed person to draw... Really. He sensationalized a story about how much he used to ride a train? Is that it? Oh my. Scandalous. At least he spoke in complete sentences.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/06 10:46:45 (permalink)
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/06 11:24:35 (permalink)
If it was another President, who shall remain nameless. The media would have been calling him every kind of liar 24/7 for weeks on end. 
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/06 11:52:46 (permalink)
I counted 17 stories related to it on one page of a Google search. How many more stories should there have been?

https://thehill.com/homen...in-four-years-by-trump
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/06 12:02:11 (permalink)
I think you are making my point. With one, everything is a lie. With another, it's just a "sensationalized story". You can't count lies if you don't first identify them as lies.
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Re: Joe Biden 2021/05/06 12:06:43 (permalink)
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I counted 17 stories related to it on one page of a Google search. How many more stories should there have been?

https://thehill.com/homen...in-four-years-by-trump


Right wing media is desperate to dig up dirt because Biden’s administration has been too boring and normal so far. This kind of crap shouldn’t surprise anybody at this point.

We also shouldn’t be surprised when people try to “both sides” it. Because Biden exaggerating about train rides is the same as Trump lying about a global pandemic and telling people to inject bleach.
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