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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/10 12:44:50 (permalink)
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WE MUST stop this and take our Country back in 2024.


The majority of the GOP seems to support the biggest lie in US political history.  Those like Cheney that live in reality and denounce it are being forced out.  There will be ZERO support from independents for those pushing the big lie, which would be needed for any sort of change in 2024.  Either clean up the GOP or get used to it.  40% will not win an election.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/10 13:00:11 (permalink)
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Dems cant help but to show their true intentions sometimes
 
In DC they stopped the Patriotic motorcycle parade by denying their annual permit using fears of 19 as their excuse while allowing protests w/o permits to happen.
This yearly vets parade was allowed to go on last year and for years has met in a public parking lot to stage before the parade- this lot permission was cancelled too.
 
In NYC they denied a permit for the annual vets Patriotic parade using 19 as the excuse while recently allowing  a marijuana legislation  support parade to go on as planned.
 
Clearly socialists using 19 to deny Patriotic events and continue with left leaning events without comment--
 
 
WE MUST stop this and take our Country back in 2024.


Is Marijuana a left leaning topic? I thought everyone was in on that?
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/10 13:02:45 (permalink)
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WE MUST stop this and take our Country back in 2024.


The majority of the GOP seems to support the biggest lie in US political history.  Those like Cheney that live in reality and denounce it are being forced out.  There will be ZERO support from independents for those pushing the big lie, which would be needed for any sort of change in 2024.  Either clean up the GOP or get used to it.  40% will not win an election.



Exactly. The insane believers of the Trump Lie likely won't be enough to win the White House on their own. 

I read a quote the other day that made me laugh but is seemingly true. "The GOP is lining up the firing squad on Cheney, but haven't realized they're standing in a circle."
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/10 13:28:15 (permalink)
They should go after this RINO next, right?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCXsmFlYjzw
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/10 13:36:54 (permalink)
Off topic but since we are on the subject  lol
 
Just put in wall mount AC--heating units with an outside main compressor.
Piped through the basement and fully wired in one day by 2 guys.
Even had a separate electric box put in the basement just for this.
 
Thought the heating option was electric and told no by the installer says it uses no more electric than a lightbulb  it runs off of the main outside compressor unit.
LOVE IT
No more in the window loud units and when this is running ya have go near it and listen carefully to even hear it - inside units and outside compressor the same- QUIET.
One compressor for all.
Heating isnt for full heat in the winter but for those middle months where ya just need a bump according to the installer but when we experimented  it was VERY  good.
 
Pricey but worth every dollar IMHO.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/10 13:50:10 (permalink)
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Off topic but since we are on the subject  lol
 
Just put in wall mount AC--heating units with an outside main compressor.
Piped through the basement and fully wired in one day by 2 guys.
Even had a separate electric box put in the basement just for this.
 
Thought the heating option was electric and told no by the installer says it uses no more electric than a lightbulb  it runs off of the main outside compressor unit.
LOVE IT
No more in the window loud units and when this is running ya have go near it and listen carefully to even hear it - inside units and outside compressor the same- QUIET.
One compressor for all.
Heating isnt for full heat in the winter but for those middle months where ya just need a bump according to the installer but when we experimented  it was VERY  good.
 
Pricey but worth every dollar IMHO.



My neighbors got one of them in her back sunroom. Pretty cool piece of equipment, but too expensive for me. I'll stick to slippers and sweatshirts for now.
I grew up with no Central AC or anything like that, had the old big iron radiators in rooms. I now have Central AC, and I kinda miss the window units. Turning them on, the white noise was a great sleeping aid. 
 
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/10 14:13:18 (permalink)
I WILL miss the ac noise while trying to sleep- when on vacation its now hard to sleep in the quiet--heck even used the fan just for the noise in Winter.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/10 14:36:10 (permalink)
My cousin owns an HVAC company and says those things are hard to beat.  Well built and rarely need servicing.  Good call on those in between months.  Not sure about CT, but seems like SWPA, that is half of the year!  Those days it is too chilly to go outside in a t-shirt only, but see exactly why sweatshirts are named sweatshirts if you do anything remotely close to exercising. 
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/10 17:06:41 (permalink)
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WE MUST stop this and take our Country back in 2024.
Don't need to win the white house in 2024 just take Senate and congress in 2022 and it won't matter who is the president

The majority of the GOP seems to support the biggest lie in US political history.  Those like Cheney that live in reality and denounce it are being forced out.  There will be ZERO support from independents for those pushing the big lie, which would be needed for any sort of change in 2024.  Either clean up the GOP or get used to it.  40% will not win an election.



Exactly. The insane believers of the Trump Lie likely won't be enough to win the White House on their own. 

I read a quote the other day that made me laugh but is seemingly true. "The GOP is lining up the firing squad on Cheney, but haven't realized they're standing in a circle."


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WE MUST stop this and take our Country back in 2024.


The majority of the GOP seems to support the biggest lie in US political history.  Those like Cheney that live in reality and denounce it are being forced out.  There will be ZERO support from independents for those pushing the big lie, which would be needed for any sort of change in 2024.  Either clean up the GOP or get used to it.  40% will not win an election.



Exactly. The insane believers of the Trump Lie likely won't be enough to win the White House on their own. 

I read a quote the other day that made me laugh but is seemingly true. "The GOP is lining up the firing squad on Cheney, but haven't realized they're standing in a circle."





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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/10 17:10:07 (permalink)
40 percent won't win an election Doesn't matter just win the Senate and or congress in 2022 and it wont matter which Democrat Socialist clown is in there.Most pols and publications sat the GOP is likelt to do just that.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/10 17:28:09 (permalink)
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40 percent won't win an election Doesn't matter just win the Senate and or congress in 2022 and it wont matter which Democrat Socialist clown is in there.Most pols and publications sat the GOP is likelt to do just that.


I wouldn't oppose what you are saying and would have much rather GOP retain GA personally.  I can see gerrymandering flipping some house seats.  Not sure if enough though?
 
What does that candidate in a highly contested area do?  Avoid any question if they think Trump won/lost the election?  If they say he lost, then Trump attacks.  If they say he won, then any voter with common sense will vote against them.  How can you trust the word of a politician if they are running on lies?  
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/10 18:13:43 (permalink)
If your saying Trump already has 40% in the box then he doesnt have to convince that many  more to win.
Kinda think some of those 'more' will come from border states that went Dem last time.
Aside from the coddled Teachers other unions like the pipe guys are learning who their friends really are.
Also Dems seem to be doing their very best to make a real clear divide with many of their new socialist agendas and with their dopy WOKE stuff.
Perhaps this will all make some just sit it out- we may find out----------
 
Thats 2024 but for the near future in 2022 it already seems clear Reps will at the very least take the House and very likely a slim majority in the Senate at worst.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/14 11:36:18 (permalink)
Not much talk on a relatively large announcement by the CDC???
 
Like most, I like it.  I have no doubt in my mind those unvaccinated are not going to follow guidelines that are still in place.  That is on them at this point.  Every adult has been given access in this country to the vaccine at this point.
 
I wish they weren't as abrupt as they were in the announcement.  Maybe should have worked something out behind the scenes with state health departments weeks ago, before just making an announcement.  Maybe they did and just seems like they didn't?  Allow them to mull over updating their policies and start communicating with the public that things will be changed on a certain date, so businesses can adjust accordingly. 
 
State/local/store policies are still saying mask, while the CDC is saying no.  I don't see any issues arising from that...
 
Regardless, it is very welcome news, IMO!
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/14 12:29:32 (permalink)
Welcome news indeed. Was not looking forward to another summer of sweating my @$$ off wearing a mask. Now I just don't know what I'm supposed to do with my face in public. It's weird even looking in a mirror while at work I've gotten so used to it
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/14 14:58:59 (permalink)
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Like most, I like it.  I have no doubt in my mind those unvaccinated are not going to follow guidelines that are still in place.  That is on them at this point.  Every adult has been given access in this country to the vaccine at this point.

 
i've heard this sort of reasoning in several places since yesterday and i don't get it.  if you're vaccinated and the vax works, why would anyone who thinks masks work at this point care who is or isn't wearing a mask in their presence?  
 
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I wish they weren't as abrupt as they were in the announcement.  Maybe should have worked something out behind the scenes with state health departments weeks ago, before just making an announcement.  Maybe they did and just seems like they didn't?  Allow them to mull over updating their policies and start communicating with the public that things will be changed on a certain date, so businesses can adjust accordingly. 
 
State/local/store policies are still saying mask, while the CDC is saying no.  I don't see any issues arising from that...

 
i found the suddenness of it pretty curious too.  it's not like the science has changed in the past couple weeks on whether or not the vax works.  vax rates have slowed so it's not like a huge new percentage of people have been vaccinated.  obviously, it matters not in many states and localities at this point, but i would think some states and localities probably aren't too happy because now they have to give the appearance of going against c.d.c. guidance.  gov. murphy of new jersey had a presser this morning in which he said they are not going along with this guidance yet.  
 
the cynic in me says this has the biden administration's fingerprints all over it to distract from the jobs report, inflation, israel and palestine, the crisis at the border, fauci lying in congress about the national institutes of health funding gain of function research in wuhan, etc.  
 
 
 
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Regardless, it is very welcome news, IMO!



pretty good news, but still shows the unwillingness of these agencies and individuals to talk even a little bit about natural immunity/resistance from prior infection.  ongoing studies show antibody production and then t-cell response after antibodies fade to be just as good as resistance produced by the vax.  
 
and the continued science denial by fauci and the cdc when it comes to kids and covid is just horrendous at this point.  fauci said just this morning that kids inside and outside should continue to mask.  ther's zero science behind that.  the vax studies in 12-16 year olds show that they're not particularly dangerous, but that there's no clinical benefit to the vax for this age group.  in my opinion, this agenda is being driven by some of the big teacher's unions who don't want to go back to in person instruction pretty much ever from the stuff they put out and fauci and the cdc are playing right along.    
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/14 15:36:38 (permalink)
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Like most, I like it.  I have no doubt in my mind those unvaccinated are not going to follow guidelines that are still in place.  That is on them at this point.  Every adult has been given access in this country to the vaccine at this point.

 
i've heard this sort of reasoning in several places since yesterday and i don't get it.  if you're vaccinated and the vax works, why would anyone who thinks masks work at this point care who is or isn't wearing a mask in their presence?  
 
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I wish they weren't as abrupt as they were in the announcement.  Maybe should have worked something out behind the scenes with state health departments weeks ago, before just making an announcement.  Maybe they did and just seems like they didn't?  Allow them to mull over updating their policies and start communicating with the public that things will be changed on a certain date, so businesses can adjust accordingly. 
 
State/local/store policies are still saying mask, while the CDC is saying no.  I don't see any issues arising from that...

 
i found the suddenness of it pretty curious too.  it's not like the science has changed in the past couple weeks on whether or not the vax works.  vax rates have slowed so it's not like a huge new percentage of people have been vaccinated.  obviously, it matters not in many states and localities at this point, but i would think some states and localities probably aren't too happy because now they have to give the appearance of going against c.d.c. guidance.  gov. murphy of new jersey had a presser this morning in which he said they are not going along with this guidance yet.  
 
the cynic in me says this has the biden administration's fingerprints all over it to distract from the jobs report, inflation, israel and palestine, the crisis at the border, fauci lying in congress about the national institutes of health funding gain of function research in wuhan, etc.  
 
 
 
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Regardless, it is very welcome news, IMO!



pretty good news, but still shows the unwillingness of these agencies and individuals to talk even a little bit about natural immunity/resistance from prior infection.  ongoing studies show antibody production and then t-cell response after antibodies fade to be just as good as resistance produced by the vax.  
 
and the continued science denial by fauci and the cdc when it comes to kids and covid is just horrendous at this point.  fauci said just this morning that kids inside and outside should continue to mask.  ther's zero science behind that.  the vax studies in 12-16 year olds show that they're not particularly dangerous, but that there's no clinical benefit to the vax for this age group.  in my opinion, this agenda is being driven by some of the big teacher's unions who don't want to go back to in person instruction pretty much ever from the stuff they put out and fauci and the cdc are playing right along.    



There's idiots in my family who won't get the Vax because of whatever flavor of the week BS is being spewed about it.
If you're unvaccinated, you're still at a great risk to contract a virus that has shown it will and can kill you. There's a lot of information about Vaccines lowering Viral load and possibilities to prevent transmission, but it's still unknown at this point. I'd for certain prefer those around me protect themselves until we're sure. 

As has been said since the beginning - wearing a mask is simple and easy. 
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/14 20:30:25 (permalink)
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There's idiots in my family who won't get the Vax because of whatever flavor of the week BS is being spewed about it.





earlier this week fauci, peter marks (head of the f.d.a.) and c.d.c director rochelle walensky came in front of a congressional panel to answer some questions.  senator burr asked fauci, marks and welensky how many of the people in their organizations had been vaccinated.  
 
fauci said probably a bit more than half, maybe 60%.
 
marks said about the same.  
 
walensky pretty much dodged the question.  
 
that's about on par with the general population of most states.  
 
are those 40-50% of the medical experts in those organizations idiots too?  
 
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If you're unvaccinated, you're still at a great risk to contract a virus that has shown it will and can kill you.

 
the u.s. as a whole has the lowest number of confirmed cases we've had since september.  
 
like the talking heads, you are completely oblivious to how much natural immunity is out there and is working in conjunction with the vaccines.  we're getting close to 35 million confirmed cases in the u.s.  the c.d.c has projected that about 5 times as many people have had it.  there's some overlap for sure, but that's a whole lotta herd immunity we've built up in the past year.  
 
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I'd for certain prefer those around me protect themselves until we're sure. 

 
so what you're saying is that you want everybody to get a vaccine that is still under emergency use authorization (and all of the real world implications that go along with that) that you don't even trust yourself?  
 
 
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/15 01:44:40 (permalink)
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what science has changed in the last six weeks to make the c.d.c. director predict impending doom and cry on t.v. to yesterday’s new c.d.c. guidance?

15 weeks ago one of biden’s top covid guys - michael osterholm - predicted that the u.s. would see its darkest days of the pandemic in the following 6 to 14 weeks. what science has changed in the last 15 weeks that would make that one of the most off the mark predictions from a public health official during the pandemic?

if you say vaccines, that makes sense. coupled with seasonality. but keep in mind these two people have been - or at least should have been - on top of all the metrics of vaccine distribution, application and effectiveness to know that what they predicted likely wouldn’t happen.

i bet we see another uptick in “cases”’in the southern u.s. this summer that follows roughly the same curve as last summer. but that hospitalizations and deaths remain much lower because of natural and vaccine immunity effectiveness.

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/15 02:38:59 (permalink)
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There's idiots in my family who won't get the Vax because of whatever flavor of the week BS is being spewed about it.





earlier this week fauci, peter marks (head of the f.d.a.) and c.d.c director rochelle walensky came in front of a congressional panel to answer some questions.  senator burr asked fauci, marks and welensky how many of the people in their organizations had been vaccinated.  
 
fauci said probably a bit more than half, maybe 60%.
 
marks said about the same.  
 
walensky pretty much dodged the question.  
 
that's about on par with the general population of most states.  
 
are those 40-50% of the medical experts in those organizations idiots too?  
 
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If you're unvaccinated, you're still at a great risk to contract a virus that has shown it will and can kill you.

 
the u.s. as a whole has the lowest number of confirmed cases we've had since september.  
 
like the talking heads, you are completely oblivious to how much natural immunity is out there and is working in conjunction with the vaccines.  we're getting close to 35 million confirmed cases in the u.s.  the c.d.c has projected that about 5 times as many people have had it.  there's some overlap for sure, but that's a whole lotta herd immunity we've built up in the past year.  
 
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I'd for certain prefer those around me protect themselves until we're sure. 

 
so what you're saying is that you want everybody to get a vaccine that is still under emergency use authorization (and all of the real world implications that go along with that) that you don't even trust yourself?  
 

Ah the old, cherrypickin quotes.

The idiots I have in my family who won't get the vaccine are very high risk individuals. Covid for them, like many others, has been/is a political issue. 

Coincidentally, a few of them have gotten it. One has permanent lung damage (Well as permanent as we can be sure of at this time, maybe the scarring goes away after some time, I'm not a medical professional, so I don't know but I bet it won't), the other was able to get the Regeneron treatment very early in their diagnoses, which worked wonderfully for them, and they were receptive to it because Trump had received it. 

I implicitly trust the Covid Vaccine (Specifically the Moderna one, as this is the one I received). At no point did I infer I do not trust them. I specifically said at this time, it's not for certain that the vaccines reduce viral load enough to reduce asymptomatic spread. Because of that, it'd be better for those who may come around me that are not vaccinated to wear a mask, to protect themselves. I wear a mask around these people to reduce any potential chances of transmission. 



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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/15 07:24:11 (permalink)
I personally like the idea that many aren’t getting vaccinated. Regeneron stock price is staying strong. I have no issue making money off of idiots. Pretty much the Art of the Deal.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/15 07:59:20 (permalink)
It's almost like a vast swath of the country have no concept of "better safe, than sorry". The same group also seems baffled that scientists cannot physically see the future and must really merely on facts and evidence to make hypotheses.

"Definition of hypothesis
1a: an assumption or concession made for the sake of argument
b: an interpretation of a practical situation or condition taken as the ground for action
2: a tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences
3: the antecedent clause of a conditional statement"

(#2 is the one that applies here, guys)
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/15 10:45:06 (permalink)
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I personally like the idea that many aren’t getting vaccinated. Regeneron stock price is staying strong. I have no issue making money off of idiots. Pretty much the Art of the Deal.


pfizer updated their q1 projections this week from $14 billion to $25 billion for profit from the vax. looks like there’s still lotsa money to be made on all the smart people too.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/15 11:49:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby crappiefisher 2021/05/15 13:49:50
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like the talking heads, you are completely oblivious to how much natural immunity is out there and is working in conjunction with the vaccines.  we're getting close to 35 million confirmed cases in the u.s.  the c.d.c has projected that about 5 times as many people have had it.  there's some overlap for sure, but that's a whole lotta herd immunity we've built up in the past year.  
 
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I'd for certain prefer those around me protect themselves until we're sure. 

 
so what you're saying is that you want everybody to get a vaccine that is still under emergency use authorization (and all of the real world implications that go along with that) that you don't even trust yourself?  
 
 


Right, so first you are gonna play that game where you try to undermine confidence and public trust in something like a vaccine, which has ACTUAL SCIENCE that supports safety and efficacy; but we can’t trust it because “real world implications”...

And next you’re on about some “natural immunity” which has absolutely no basis in science, and no evidence whatsoever, yet you somehow think that public health officials are the fools because they made a decision to not jeopardize the health and safety of hundreds of thousands if not millions of people based herd immunity guesswork?

Go back to the Joe Rogen podcasts dude.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/15 12:07:25 (permalink)
Why did the CDC relax guidelines? Maybe because it provides incentive to people who are reluctant to get the vaccine.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/15 13:28:34 (permalink)
Went to visit a small store today-GONE- like so many other single owner business that had to close shop because of restrictions and went broke with so long W/O  income while still paying rent- electric - heat and insurances.
 You know them, the owner is there behind the counter and generally only one or two customers at any given time- They were MANDATED to close for over a year and so many didnt make it.
 
Oh yea- while main street was shut down by govt., big boxes of all descriptions with multiple employees and dozens of customers at a time were able to stay open.
 
COMPLETE IDIOCY
 
Talking about masks is a far and away second place from the thousands and thousands of people they put in bankruptcy and/or out of business by  wildly unfair  unrealistic mandates.
 
This has been the closest thing I have ever seen in America that mirrors and totalitarian govt.
And they got away with it------------
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/15 16:36:36 (permalink)
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Went to visit a small store today-GONE- like so many other single owner business that had to close shop because of restrictions and went broke with so long W/O  income while still paying rent- electric - heat and insurances.
 You know them, the owner is there behind the counter and generally only one or two customers at any given time- They were MANDATED to close for over a year and so many didnt make it.
 
Oh yea- while main street was shut down by govt., big boxes of all descriptions with multiple employees and dozens of customers at a time were able to stay open.
 
COMPLETE IDIOCY
 
Talking about masks is a far and away second place from the thousands and thousands of people they put in bankruptcy and/or out of business by  wildly unfair  unrealistic mandates.
 
This has been the closes thing I have ever seen in America that mirrors and totalitarian govt.
And they got away with it------------



Yeah man. I see em around where I live too. 

The Covid Pandemic is no joke, and it has affected millions of lives in different ways. Its sad - all across the board.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/16 13:24:26 (permalink)
I, personally, am waiting for ONE randomized controlled study that proves masks are effective against covid.  The study they push was on mannequins, not living beings.  I loved you rubes when I was in the carnival, easy money.  The rangers conducted a test where one group of recruits used masks and one did not wear masks.  Guess the outcome.  Keep believing the gov. and media.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/16 19:18:21 (permalink)
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And next you’re on about some “natural immunity” which has absolutely no basis in science, and no evidence whatsoever, yet you somehow think that public health officials are the fools because they made a decision to not jeopardize the health and safety of hundreds of thousands if not millions of people based herd immunity guesswork?

Go back to the Joe Rogen podcasts dude.




https://www.biorxiv.org/c...01/2020.11.15.383323v2



https://insight.jci.org/articles/view/146316

snagr always has the receipts.

i’ve supported and encouraged every person i know and love who wants the vax to get the vax. my wife, daughter, dad, brothers and their wives, my wife’s family and many friends.

likewise those of them who understand how the human immune system works because they work in the medical field - including my wife and daughter - have all supported my decision not to get the vax because there’s zero compelling reason for me to get the vax since i had a symptomatic case of covid and recovered. the risk/benefit for me right now leans towards not getting the vax at this point. if/when i read about a scientifically compelling reason for me to get it i would likely get it.

i’ve never listened to a podcast in my life. the only time i’ve ever heard or seen joe rogan are a handful of times when I’ve watched mma. i have zero idea about what he has to say about covid.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/17 21:15:35 (permalink)
more receipts on the strength of natural immunity from prior covid infection.

https://www.medrxiv.org/c...20.21255670v1.full.pdf

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https://www.nytimes.com/2...onavirus-immunity.html

https://www.aier.org/arti...-you-need-the-vaccine/
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2021/05/18 07:08:17 (permalink)
snagr

https://www.biorxiv.org/c...01/2020.11.15.383323v2



This study was based on a sample size of 188 people. You don’t base public policy that affects the lives of millions of people on sample sizes of 188 people.

The Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine phase 3 trial had 43,000 participants. Over 41,000 of these individuals had the second dose of the vaccine.

https://www.pfizer.com/ne...study-covid-19-vaccine


If your claim is that people who have had the virus are unlikely to get re-infected, that’s fine. It’s not a particularly surprising result. But the amount of data that supports the safety and efficacy of these vaccines (even those under emergency use authorization) dwarfs any data regarding whatever claims you are making about re-infection and herd immunity. There are still far too many unanswered questions and too much uncertainty for REAL scientists to confidently say that people who have had covid are adequately protected against re-infection.

Propping up these studies with small sample sizes while trying undermine confidence in the real science behind vaccine testing suggests you (1) either have no idea what you are talking about or (2) you are being deliberately misleading.
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