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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/16 09:19:47 (permalink)
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Just curious, has anyone else experienced a radical drop off in fish caught?  

Definitely for me too.  Granted, half of the year, I was messing around with a bum motor, and not able to fish like I am used to.
 
The spring had some nice crappie, but I was stuck to where my trolling motor would take me.  Which might have helped, by sticking to spots a bit more than I would in the past?  I have had better years, when able to move from spot to spot a bit more.  But it wasn't too bad.
 
Hybrid fishing for me this year, was by far the worst since I have been chasing them.  Granted 20 years ago, when I first discovered them, was much better than the past 5.  I am sure 25-30 years ago, before I even knew what a hybrid was, was even better.  Again, I am contributing much of this to my attention spent on my motor, than fishing.  I know they are being caught by many on this board.  Maybe not the numbers they are used to, but they are in there.
 
The summer, I am usually not catching fish, and that continued this summer...  The fall seems to have come a bit later than normal, and not sure if completely here, fishing pattern wise.  I am hopeful that I can make up for lost catching in the next few weeks.  I have noticed a sharp decline in vegetation in many areas that I rely on it.  Other areas are still choked full of it.  So, I will have to adjust from some old faithful spots.
 
That all being said, I am glad that I am not the only one having issues with my favorite lake.
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/16 11:09:24 (permalink)
I been thinkin (😳) about sumpthin discussed regarding temps, barometric pressures, day/night, seasons, available forage, etc having affects on fish feeding & catching.

I'm thinkin (😳) it was PSU, asked how it was that walleye could be caught so well on Lake Erie, on "bluebird" days?

That question is what got me thinkin (😳) about the season, water temps, high pressure, bringing more public activity to the shallow manmade lakes.

I'm also thinkin (😳) might the new motor HP restriction changes be lending to changes now being experienced?

My thinkin (😳) is, does this activity drive down the catching rate by chasing fish bait/bait fish to deeper waters thereby having a far greater affect on stupid fish feeding patterns vs temp, pressure, etc.

I mean, in thinkin (😳), who wants to dine out with the family with a bunch of doorknobs, zooming around just overhead, on a fine summer bluebird day?



Just thinkin (πŸ˜‡) mind younz and I'm thinkin (πŸ€”) I bet I got some younz thinkin too.


P.S. I'm thinkin I know what sum younz is already thinkin about my thinkin and I'm thinkin "no" I don't care what your thinkin.πŸ‘»
post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2019/10/16 11:11:13

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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/16 11:42:36 (permalink)
Going back to the discussion a few weeks back on there being more boats around now than 20+ years ago.  To me, due to more disposable income in the area as someone noted rather than the increase in HP limits.
 
I would imagine the more commotion would probably have some fish more comfortable in other locations.  
 
As for open water vs. smaller lakes, they are hard to compare.  Even just shallow water to deep water.  Those fish have seasonal patterns and are in those locations at that time of year.  Those larger waters have life going on at all times, where the smaller lakes will have periods where fish are basically hibernating during the day.  Guys are catching 800lb blue marlin in the middle of those same bluebird days out of Hatteras, where all I am catching is a sun burn if I try to fish the beach past 11AM.  To me, the same thing as Erie.  The boats are crushing them, where I might luck into a sheepshead from shore.
 
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/16 12:37:59 (permalink)
My point, bigger lakes = deeper water, fish can adjust to clear sunny days both from the sun and barometric pressures as well as boat traffic.

On the otherhand, manmade lakes being so shallow there is little to no relief with the exception of habitat which, barely exist in made made lakes.

So I'm thinkin (πŸ€—) what options do fish have in shallow manmade lakes, even with habitat, when boating activity is high.

But some food for thinkin, just what would be considered high boating activity?

Might that be some dude "running & gunning" through your favorite catching spots, blowing out all the fish?

Then the question, how long before fish recover & return to those areas? Maybe minutes or possibly hours and does Pork get there, before the next (or same) dude blasts the area again? Geez 😣 not while Pork is sitting there, working on his sun tan, not catching fish.

I'm thinkin, given enough disturbance, the fish just shut down and go into temporary hibernation mode.

We know how the food chain works and chasing away the first link, then none of the rest of the stupid fish, are gonna be there.

I don't know (😳) how deep water would need be to prevent botor moats or weather from affecting fish or how long it might take, for fish to return to a given area but I gotta think shallow water and botor moat activity is gonna affect catching.


I'd like to offer, in my defence, what you experience on your beloved Arthur is the same being experienced on similar lakes throughout the region.

That includes the 10% of the anglers catching 90% of the fish and that 10% on your lake ain't the same as the 10% on my lake.

But we do seem to have those same stupid fish.
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/16 13:58:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby CAPTAIN HOOK 2019/10/16 18:35:08
Stocking numbers for wipers and walleyes on Arthur have taken a hit in the recent past too.

Although it’s prob not showing up in this year’s catches, no wipers were stocked in 2018. 16K in 2017 and 2019 as compared to 32-36K in the recent past.

No walleyes in 2015 or 2016 which probably is showing up this year. And lower numbers in 2017 and 2018.
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/16 14:24:50 (permalink)
Similar to other area lakes Dave, with no explanation from PFBC.

Substantial hits to boot.

Still, there remains that 10% catching.

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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/16 14:30:09 (permalink)
I remember fishing a couple years ago at Arthur. It was a cold wet windy day but it was like someone threw a switch. We caught bass after bass from shore in about 10 foot of water with plugs and spinnerbaits. All cookie cutter 4 and 5 pounders.The right place at the right time.Fattening up for winter. That's what keeps me coming back.

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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/16 16:23:52 (permalink)
That's why it's called fishing otherwise, even I could catch the stupid things.πŸŽƒ

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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/16 19:21:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rippinlip 2019/10/16 22:33:41
 Hadn't fished the lake since maybe early May this yr. until last night. Had not noticed the bite change like you guys that fished it throughout the yr. Glad I didn't waste time on it now after reading your reports. Some of my local buddies & son seemed to have decent results though.
 
 Last night didn't see anyone out & the LM & Byrd bite was purdy good for me. Tried this salt water glow in the dark shrimp for the 1st time & was impressed. Son has 1/2 a truck load of these shrimp jigs & finally tried one. 
 
 Got the erg to go again tonight & give the Crappie a shot. Caught a bunch ov Fatheads from a friends pond today & then wimped out for tonight, chilly damp wind  .  Gonna give it a try either tomorrow or Friday for panfish or what ever is hungry.
 
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/16 22:35:51 (permalink)
Crappiefisher holler at me if you want a fishin buddy.I'd like to do some crappie fishin.
 

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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/18 21:34:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rippinlip 2019/10/19 08:55:07
  rippinlip,
 
 After the other night & this evening I'm probably fished out for awhile  Might try again for Perch or a night Crappie for a few hrs. before Thanksgiving.
 
 Giggles & I went from 4:30 --- 8:30 tonight. Gonna wait 'till morning for the filleting, feet still cold from wading. 
 
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/20 10:58:12 (permalink)
Maybe next time Chris. Giggles probably would have caught all the fish any way
 

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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/20 14:22:10 (permalink)
was up at the upper end this morning, very nice no wind at all , marked a lot of fish and sat right over top. they just didn't want to bite. caught a few small crappy, one here one there , moved around a quite a bit.  water was 54
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/20 15:23:32 (permalink)
Over the past few years, during the fall,
if you found a school of Crappie you found Stripers.

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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/20 17:24:49 (permalink)
I have found, if you don’t find crappies, you don’t wipers... Stupid fish!!! I just want to get out a day the wind isn’t blowing 20mph! Kids sport season doesn’t seem to get me out at all.
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/20 18:46:29 (permalink)
Well I have found, I can find all kinds of fish and I still don't catch the stupid things.🎣

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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/20 19:29:47 (permalink)
 Duck hunters (Muddy Crick) arm woke me up at first light Sat. morning. Sounded like a war zone for the first 20 min. then mostly quite morning. 
 
  Kevin, Giggles was up 12 to 2 before I could find 'em. Perch & Gills 'till dark then all Crappie after.
 
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/20 20:00:17 (permalink)
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Well I have found, I can find all kinds of fish and I still don't catch the stupid things.🎣

Ha ha. Honestly, reading Bubbaman’s report, that is my exact experience near the cabins. Mark about 500 fish on the sonar and catch zero... I have had the sonar completely full screen. Confused of how I hadn’t snagged a few.
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/20 20:45:17 (permalink)
Pork it beats the hell out of me how I can mark fish in deeper water and as you say "the screen is just full", and I can't get a single nibble.

Then there is those times when a guy can put an eyeball on a stump in shallow clear water with not a fish in sight, and catch a stupid fish every cast. Granted I'm not talking 'wipers' here but a stupid fish is still, a stupid fish...... stupid fish.πŸ‘»

Honestly I think what we see on our sonar screens is "fishy pharts" sent out like evasive flare decoys or sumpthin.

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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/20 21:38:56 (permalink)
If I ever find out that fish are able to send out false readings on my sonar, I will officially give up! And yes, part of me wouldn’t be surprised if that is what’s going on. We just pass by those fish Christmas trees, especially in a few areas that have driven me completely nuts before. I’m sure if you can figure out what they are going after, you could load up. My entire tackle box unfortunately didn’t have what they were interested in.
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/10/20 21:47:14 (permalink)
Dynamite.... maybe? But with my luck, my motor would stall.πŸ™‰

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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/11/11 11:36:19 (permalink)
I'm new to the lake and want to keep fishing up to ice, where should I target bass, hybrids even walleye?
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/11/12 19:11:17 (permalink)
locate the schools of alewifes and you're in the neighborhood.

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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/11/13 14:51:58 (permalink)
DCNR has pulled the docks by now, I assume?
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/11/13 20:06:21 (permalink)
Yes the docks are out
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/11/14 10:33:41 (permalink)
thank you for the heads up.
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/11/14 14:58:23 (permalink)
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I'm new to the lake and want to keep fishing up to ice, where should I target bass, hybrids even walleye?


Welcome to the boards.  
 
At this time of the year, I don't know where to target hybrids or walleye (never know where for walleye).  There are plenty largemouth in the lake.  I can usually catch a few targeting pan fish at this time in the year.  I can usually find some pan fish shallow, but sure they will go deep sooner or later with the cold weather and water likely mixing.
 
Check out the search function.  A ton of good info from guys that have fished the lake longer than I have, and guys that haven't fished it longer than I, but still catch more...
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Re: Lake Arthur 2019 2019/11/14 15:11:16 (permalink)
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I'm new to the lake and want to keep fishing up to ice, where should I target bass, hybrids even walleye?


Welcome to the boards.  
 
At this time of the year, I don't know where to target hybrids or walleye (never know where for walleye).  There are plenty largemouth in the lake.  I can usually catch a few targeting pan fish at this time in the year.  I can usually find some pan fish shallow, but sure they will go deep sooner or later with the cold weather and water likely mixing.
 
Check out the search function.  A ton of good info from guys that have fished the lake longer than I have, and guys that haven't fished it longer than I, but still catch more...


Appreciate it!!
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