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2017/10/25 11:30:04 (permalink)

Trip 3 and when??

OK-- planning another trip up this season. What to do? what to do?
Squeezed in between Fall Turkey, Bow Hunting and Rifle for Deer it must be the best educated ,weather Ok, few days possible. Not to mention Wifey plans lol.
Sooo-- read weather and fishing reports to help out.
First read over 4 years of my reports to confirm Nov and even late Oct are my usual favored times- the past couple of seasons being exceptions -however knowing this season is much better- but Steel still a question.
 
PLANNING THE TRIPS TIMING--
 
Now the best part- long range weather reports- all over the place----
Then- fishing reports, DSR, some guides and regular folks-all over the place---
 
EX ONE --- DSR had good Steel and some Kings yesterday but not a epic report - more like an honest report.
EX TWO-- DSR this morning- not so hot- - honest report.
EX THREE-- a guide says it was basically exceptional ( my interpretation) yesterday and so far today on Steel with some new Kings in DSR and very low- a regular guy generally to be believed- Honest reporter.
EX FOUR- fisherfolks are all over the place with Steel success or not stories- -honest reports.
 
Decided to go whenever the heck I feel like it.
I got well over 30 years on this river and still cant quite figure out annual migrations and the ups and downs in fish numbers-don't know how the heck newbies can try and do it as they seem so dependent on reports.
 
 
post edited by r3g3 - 2017/10/25 13:48:59
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/25 11:34:40 (permalink)
sounds like a plan to me,go when you can and hope for the best.
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/25 11:39:39 (permalink)
Agree  although I like to read honest new reports to try and figure out where on the river may be the best bet with fish movement from down low.
Steel, Kings, Hos take different times, as you know, to get to certain places.
Trying to be ahead instead of behind can make or break a trip lol.
Think I'm startin to think like a behind thinking this darned machine will plan my trip and fishing location too.
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/27 12:17:46 (permalink)
We did a short run Wednesday PM, Thurs AM.  Fished around 81 on Thursday, each of us had one steelhead on, guy across the river had at least 20, but was having a problem holding them likely because they were hooked in soft fleshy parts.  Guy at the Midriver Wednesday night said town was still one big conga line of lifters.  Went upriver around Pineville on Thursday, stayed put there was a good presence of steelhead although they were not biting particularly well.  Crowd above town was about half of last week, still a bit crowded, but you can find a spot to stand and fish.  The neandrathal morons  did a pretty good job of removing the sammins, there were a lot more still on redds last year at this time.  Word was out that steel were being found in both flyzones, so the fish that started in 2 weeks ago have distributed themselves.  Now if we could just get Encon to have a ticket party at the staircases, there might be trout for the whole winter.  Rumors are flying that when the management plan is adopted it will be catch and release for trout anyway  (Rumor, no details, maybe delayed harvest to stretch the season and insure adequate fish for the hatchery), that will get rid of some of the neandrathal morons that are only interested in filling coolers and come with three changes of fishing clothes!
It may not be a banner run, only time will tell, but there are a LOT more fish than last year when there were nearly none.   Be back up Tuesday next week and the week after, then it gets played by ear depending on the weather.
post edited by Lucky13 - 2017/11/02 11:13:16
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/27 16:44:30 (permalink)
Hey Lucky 13, what's with the derogatory moniker "Goombas."  What's next guinea's, kike's, heeb's, spic's, shine's, donkey's and a host of other names?  If you're going to jerk off in public at least put a moist towel over your lap.
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/28 08:49:09 (permalink)
From Urban Dictionary:
 
Top Definition 
 
goomba
Those weak enemies from Super Mario Brothers that walk in one direction and moves another direction when it bumps into something.
 
Aren't we a little sensitive, and quite the vocabulary!   Are we maybe feeling a little guilty about our twitchy arms?  Goombaya, Pilgrim!
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/28 09:39:12 (permalink)
Bull****!  It's used as a derogatory slur for those of Italian descent and it has no place here or anywhere else when trying to convey a story.  You very well could have told your story without using that term to describe the people you observed.   
post edited by troutbum21 - 2017/10/28 20:33:42
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/28 13:23:33 (permalink)
The top three choices that come up on a google search reference the enemies in Super Mario Brothers, and it was the image of them from the SMB movie that I had in mind.  If you have the kind of trump head that immediately fills with all the racist words you threw out, Oh Well!  I edited my post, my Italian fishing partner, who took no offense to my use of the word on the river, and my Italian wife, might get annoyed that I was misinterpreted.  What backwater do you originate in, Neandrathal moron (apologies to any cavemen I may have offended)?
 

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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/28 20:33:33 (permalink)
I now see how the game game is played.  Let's reduce it political affiliation, name calling and rationalization that it's okay because I'm married to one or my friend didn't take umbrage.  You could have used any adjective to describe those you observed or perhaps not.  Limitations are a terrible thing especially when your not intelligent enough to know the difference.  
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/28 22:02:14 (permalink)
. L13 you are suspended for 5 days, but not until the beginning of next season, we would not want to penalize your fishing buddies.  Come on guys,  although it may be in  poor taste by me I could not resist throwing this out.  FWIW I only think of the Mario thing when I hear that (I truly would not of known), not defending just saying.
post edited by Clint S - 2017/10/28 22:14:05

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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/29 08:07:04 (permalink)
I think for someone of my generation and earlier, that word connotes "mafia affiliation", except when it is used among family and friends. I haven't the vaguest clue what the other reference is.  I always thought some of the worse perps on the river were the Russians, but they're getting a bad rap all over the place.  I would put money on the fact TB  had training  in biased language from his supervisory work in LE. To me, it wasn't intentionally inflammatory, just perhaps using a word where you didn't know the full meaning. 
   On the other hand , (see, I could have used OTOH, but am so old school, I still type it out lonnnnng) it's good to hear the better steel report and pretty much firms up a Nov. visit to the river for me. I did get stripers on the coast yesterday, but it IS winding down and a chill wind off the water reminds of coming snow mixed with the blowing sand.  I might've had a hook-up or two in the river, but  regrets  just fuel the drive for the next trip.
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/29 08:12:45 (permalink)
troutbum21
I now see how the game game is played.  Let's reduce it political affiliation, name calling and rationalization that it's okay because I'm married to one or my friend didn't take umbrage.  You could have used any adjective to describe those you observed or perhaps not.  Limitations are a terrible thing especially when your not intelligent enough to know the difference.  


And you are not intelligent enough to know that your perception is what you are imposing on my reality, you are the one walking around with all the racist baggage.  Perhaps you use it as a derogatory slur to a nationality, I used a reference to the character above as a derogatory slur toward snaggers of fish.  Also I used a proper noun derived from a movie, no adjective there. Did I cut a little too near to the bone, does reference to steelhead snaggers in unflattering ways make you too uncomfortable, maybe feel like you are the victim of the attack, maybe even justifiably in others eyes?  Isn't your handle derived from an unflattering term applied in a disparaging way to economically disadvantaged people  who happen to be out of work and maybe living on the streets, but "sanctified" with a reference to a fish?.  Shame, Shame, Oh great Cromagnon! 
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/29 08:39:42 (permalink)
come on L, give it up already. I also don't know of the Mario bro's verbiage and only the latter. Just because it doesn't bother some , that doesn't make it appropriate. There is a better term you could have used and its meaning , SNAGGER.
I know Gerry and have fished and hunted with the man. To try and now formulate ones dislike of the term used, it's foolish to try and twist this into someone being one , a SNAGGER, in which he surly isn't.
Save that junk for another website in which there is no censorship , or is there ? .
 
Thanks for the report and I enjoy reading your posts (sometimes , lol) lets just not get to carried away and stuck on back and forth argumentative comment. It's done and over for all intended purpose of this topic. If you guys can't agree, then lets just agree to disagree and move on.
 
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/31 13:56:34 (permalink)
We live in a day and age where it's tough to decipher what's derogatory and what's not... I'm sure l13's comment was light hearted and unintentional, but it's clear to see that the actual line is quite a grey area on what's acceptable and what's not.

Watch the flow gauges and hit the river once it hit's about 1200 at pineville Mr. RT ;)
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/10/31 14:36:50 (permalink)
WOW...We need to do alittle fishing around here!!


wishin i was fishin
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/02 11:16:38 (permalink)
Yes Bear, but I was fishing, provided a useful report, and got lambasted (hopefully I didn't culturally appropriate some offensive term there!).  Last time I provide any useful in formation here!
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/02 11:30:09 (permalink)
Water is too big for me for a while.
Lucky didn't mean to insult anyone but the snaggers--
He gives great, insightful, educated reports.
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/02 14:26:25 (permalink)
Gave.
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/02 14:55:37 (permalink)
If that's how you really need to feel about things Mr 13, it's sad. While i thought you were a grown man , it seems i was mistaken. If you choose to take your ball to another court to provoke a rise then so be it , dribble away. As you can clearly see since the toilet was flushed there is no moderation and none needed only reasonable respect for others.
While somethings in life I will truly miss, yours is not one of them.

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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/02 15:38:21 (permalink)
*******!
 
You call it soda in Albany we call it pop down here.  I took a rasher, undeserved, I think, and you jumped in on top of it.  I took a long breather from the Inturdnet once before, but was convinced that I offered valuable information, and returned, only to witness "the purges" here.  Now on the other site I am watching a bunch of posers pretend they are sportsmen and calling them out (as I suspect you are also), and getting the same type of censorship these folks originally decried so loudly when it was the old Salmon Crazy site spreading the manure. In light of that , the fish are generally in the water, and they are generally biting on the end of Randy Jones' line, just ask him.   
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/02 15:54:51 (permalink)
See below
post edited by hot tuna - 2017/11/02 15:58:38

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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/02 15:57:41 (permalink)
Dude, I didn't give you Shi!, just stating it wasn't necessary, especially when it offended someone. THEN , YOU, tried to tie him into your meaning of a snagger because he took offense.
That's just dumb. Now your feathers are ruffled and stating you won't share anymore, again I don't get that.
Honestly, I. Think your a righteous sportsman and steward but a lousy judge of character, which " seems " To put people beneath you. It's just my thoughts and airing them out.
Absolutely your information is valuable but it's not the only resource available.
To put a bunch of *******, directed to myself,
I can only place the lettered of F*****U in it's place that fit. Again, seems not very grown up. If I'm wrong,I'll admit so.

In saying I'll miss your insight, again , I have better thing in life then to worry about fishing forums

Ps, you may be street smart but I don't live or associate with a city such as Albany. I live miles away in the country where we still shoot guns and ride atvs in my yard
post edited by hot tuna - 2017/11/02 16:03:30

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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/02 20:03:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby crappiefisher 2017/11/02 20:51:15
If I knew how to eliminate and/or erase this thread that I started I would
If any mod is reading Please do it for me----
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/02 22:46:28 (permalink)
Nahh r3 no need for that, not your fault.

Moderators would squash any page they feel doesn't meet the rules of the forum. For those offended over a comment, they can report the comment if they so choose.

Moderators will and do respond.


Just think, this is only Nov, wait till cabin fever season arrives.

Give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you will feed him for a life time. ~Anne Isabella Thackeray Ritchie (1837–1919)~
 
 
 
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/03 09:17:17 (permalink)
wow, I wasn't even a part of this conversation.  For health reasons, I had to skip my annual pilgrimage to the SR this year.  Had my DSR passes in hand but life got in the way.  The DSR gave me credit towards next year.  I know I missed a great year.  However, while the Columbus Day weekend is usually a safe bet,  I think the bulk of the salmon run was already over by then.
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/03 12:23:07 (permalink)
No matter our differences of opinion in the past, sorry to hear you missed going for health reasons, Chartist.  That's decent the DSR deferred your reservations. Hopefully ,next year will be as good as this one. Steel weren't in early, though. 
If you go to Erie, let us know how you do. I usually don't check that board.
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/04 08:36:11 (permalink)
Wow!!!!
Sorry to hear of your health chart
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/04 18:32:18 (permalink)
I always thought was  goomba was and Americanized term that meant friend or associate.
But I'm only  half Italian what do I know?
 
But as an Italian American, OK half  Italian, I would be upset by the use of the term Mafia myself.
 
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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/05 19:38:12 (permalink)
Wow bizzaro world here. Fighting amongst ourselves and being nice to Chartist ...... strange indeed.   Seriously though,  I never wish bad health on anyone  so in that I do hope you feel better Chartist, get at them soon.

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Re: Trip 3 and when?? 2017/11/06 07:46:31 (permalink)
Yep the bickering does seem strange but not to worry, outbreak of of Asian Cabin Fever. That new strain,
NoCatchEmSteelHead, me thinks.


Chartist, we've never met but best wishes, for a speedy and full recovery.
post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2017/11/06 07:48:46

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