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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/08/13 14:41:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby workcanwait.... 2018/08/14 09:25:17
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Any more news on the Gilmore Farm project???


I heard it would be around November until they can get the deal done.

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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/08/13 15:14:50 (permalink)
Are they even up to rte 5 yet?

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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/08/13 20:11:10 (permalink)
Thanks Panfisher but I still am not going to hold my breath, Nov would be great!!
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/08/15 09:53:57 (permalink)
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Are they even up to rte 5 yet?


They are up to 79 by now
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/04 19:46:07 (permalink)
 As for the Gilmore Farm project, some one said it should be addressed in Nov, well as I said earlier glad I did not hold my breath
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/04 23:56:29 (permalink)
Good things come to those who wait. Lotsa pieces to this puzzle. Hopefully it will happen.

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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 00:14:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby workcanwait.... 2018/11/05 05:19:21
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 As for the Gilmore Farm project, some one said it should be addressed in Nov, well as I said earlier glad I did not hold my breath



The money to purchase the property was approved by the Fish Commission, way back in January, but evidently the Lake Erie Conservancy did not come up with their half, since that seems to be the last thing that happened on this subject. 

Even though the local rag said it was a done deal in April.  There is actually no way to access the creek from what I can see.  At least there isn't without the Commission clearing a road, or a path to the creek.

http://www.goerie.com/spo...ooked-conneaut-creeks#

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ere's the area to be purchased.  It's not the entire farm.  Just the area south of I-90.  The map is kind of screwed up, as far as direction.

http://www.goerie.com/assets/PA30240426.PDF
 
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 08:10:15 (permalink)
Come on Pete...where there’s a will there’s a way! Park on 90 and para shoot yer way dahhn!!!

Hopefully they will “buy the farm!”
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 10:39:13 (permalink)
There are two trails down into the gorge. Parking on Beckman Rd. the one old trail parallels
I -90 along the fence of the interstate and drops right down under the I-90 bridge. You must walk across the large field on top near the cell tower before getting to the trail. (long walk and narrow at first )
 
The second trail is a little farther south on Beckman and borders the property line and actually may not be a Gilmore property trail but it drops all the way down almost to Little Elk. It was gated on the top with posted signs when the private fishing club leased it. It too is a long hike down even longer coming out !
I've made tons of trips in and out back in the late 80's on up to about 2004 when it got posted.
 
Back in the day it had at least 8 good holes and runs that held fish steady all through winter. It's all woods and cliff banks and very pristine. Hard to say what it looks and holds today 20 years later. No doubt one of the nicest areas on Elk to fish back then.
 
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 12:51:26 (permalink)
I cal first dibs when it opens!!!

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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 14:00:20 (permalink)
That high bank, looks awfully similar to a guide's post on Facebook's. Hmm....
 
 

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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 14:56:41 (permalink)
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That high bank, looks awfully similar to a guide's post on Facebook's. Hmm....
 
 


Sure does.
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 15:05:44 (permalink)
I see on their website a photo of this exact spot so they must have access. That's the best hole in that Gilmore stretch but other runs and areas are good too ! If they are still there. If they open it up...... good deal....I won't be back ...too old to run up and down that gorge now.....lol
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 15:09:08 (permalink)
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Come on Pete...where there’s a will there’s a way! Park on 90 and para shoot yer way dahhn!!!

Hopefully they will “buy the farm!”


:-)  Well, 15 or 20 years ago, I might have tried that, but I'm getting ollllld.   Sure looks like nice water though.  Maybe the Fish Commission or Coservancy will put a parking lot or clear a road, like they did for the land they bought between Sterretania and Rick Rd.    That's on West Rd.     There's supposed to be another  parking access on Pfeffer Rd. but I can't find it.  


Thanks for the photos, Captain! Sure looks nice.   The main part of the farm, with the big barn is a nice area.  My niece had her wedding there last September.  


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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 15:12:15 (permalink)
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I see on their website a photo of this exact spot so they must have access. That's the best hole in that Gilmore stretch but other runs and areas are good too ! If they are still there. If they open it up...... good deal....I won't be back ...too old to run up and down that gorge now.....lol


Yep!  Me too!  I haven't fished upper Twenty in a while because I don't want to walk back up that hill on the way back.  
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 15:42:46 (permalink)
Walk up from Greens property that's how we access the older easement and now this area. Getting an in with the property owners and keeping folks out is SOP for guides on the Erie tribs.
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 15:55:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby D-nymph 2018/11/07 09:40:56
Welllll looky here what the cat dragged in! Saw your fotoz and couldn’t resist eh???

Hopefully this acquisition goes thru...I’m sure you’ll find other “private parts” to take your rich clients too. Us peasants would like to have a few nice spots!

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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 17:18:42 (permalink)
Hey iv fished there before!

I'd rather be lucky then good,but im to good to be lucky
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 19:22:29 (permalink)
I post these every now and then....same spot Gilmore Farm "The Big Hole " 
 

 

 
 
 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 19:44:16 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby FiveMilePete 2018/11/05 21:36:17

 

Yea Pete it's about 3/4 mile walk from the road down to the best holes...not easy with waders and low light. Hiking out it's a steep climb...not for us old dogs and those out of shape. I'll let these young dudes have fun....hope to see some pics in the future.
 
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/05 21:50:53 (permalink)
Wow!  That photo with the deer looks like a cover photo for a fishing magazine!  
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/06 21:22:13 (permalink)
It will be very nice to fish that stretch once more.

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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/06 21:30:13 (permalink)
So as for now no access allowed?
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/07 07:57:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby FiveMilePete 2018/11/07 15:03:06
Wv dang dude, call the fish commission! With the passion and fervor you display about fishing this area, maybe you can move things along.

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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/07 21:17:54 (permalink)
Out of state dude , they won't listen to residents what makes you think they care what I have to say ? Was just curious if anything was happening on the project.
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/07 21:29:55 (permalink)
I guess we will not know.....

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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/08 08:59:34 (permalink)
More Gilmore fishing action for the 1%....
 
 
 

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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/08 11:23:02 (permalink)
Jagfly is one of their primary guides and prolly fishes there weekly.

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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/18 17:46:36 (permalink)
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Re: Problem of stream access/private water/private clubs 2018/11/18 21:48:47 (permalink)
Good news. Still no dates for when it can actually be fished. But us underlings have waited this long, so what’s a little while longer?!

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