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2017/09/09 11:14:28 (permalink)

Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke

Just watched the Outdoor Option hunting show. Some dude pops a big 10pt. buck from a fancy built tree house with windows. The buck is mingling around a "deer feeder" in the wide open with several does maybe 20 yds. away. He cracks this deer with a scoped rifle. Claims he's hardly heard any shots that day, ( maybe because it's posted up for miles I'm sure ) says there's minimal hunting pressure here ! No kidding ! 
Anyway he made the " tough shot" and got the trophy for his wall. Wow that was a real challenge !
 
Hope he didn't get his $300 dollar camo boots muddy walking to the dead deer........how pitiful !
 
......and to think some call that hunting!..........sad, real sad.
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/09 11:55:32 (permalink)
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    ......and to think some call that hunting!..........sad, real sad.




    And some call fishing for steelhead stacked into the legion hole fishing............. Its all what floats your boat. As long as someone is legally hunting or fishing, I all care about is that they are enjoying themselves and supporting the outdoor sports. Glad to see them out there. 

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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/09 12:31:38 (permalink)
    Still pitiful.......legal or not.
     
    One thing I like about fishing ....trophy fish caught on "private waters" don't count in record books. No recognition given to certain people or groups for the private no competition advantage.   
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/09 13:08:28 (permalink)
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    Still pitiful.......legal or not.
     
    One thing I like about fishing ....trophy fish caught on "private waters" don't count in record books. No recognition given to certain people or groups for the private no competition advantage.   




    Is fishing for steelhead in the legion hole "pitiful" or stocked trout? Or hunting over dogs for pheasant in a SGL field that was stocked the day before? 
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/09 21:09:07 (permalink)
    There's "kill for thrill" and there is "hunting".  There is "kill for thrill" and there is "fishing".  No question in my mind the TV programs promote  "kill for thrill" and not hunting.  
     
    Of course there's always a chance, somebody will produce a program on TV where the great hunters use 'paint ball guns' or 'nerf bow and arrows' promoting catch and release.
     
    Got a Video with a piece of hunting equipment I purchased, in the video is a husband and wife team who hunt bear (  (Jigs don't say it)).  Each is conveniently positioned on a ladder stand overlooking containers of bait.  Of course the bait  comes in various size packages and is produced by the sponsors of the program.  As each bear runs, after being shot while feeding on the bait, the shooter will look at the camera giving a review of what just unfolded followed by "let's listen for the death moan".  Immediately following the "death moan" we see the big smile and dancing in the trees.  Hunting, kill for thrill, or just enjoying themselves?
     
     
     
     
    post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2017/09/09 21:19:16

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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/09 21:09:07 (permalink)
     Ooops double click.   Stupid double click!
     
     
     
     
    post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2017/09/09 21:15:13

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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 05:39:27 (permalink)
    As a seasoned hunter,I've hunted and entire season,being out on two sit a day and still not killed a buck. I just love it when the TV hunter says I've been here in Iowa hunting HARD for two or three days before I bagged my monster 180 PY. lol I don't watch it for the hunting anymore,just the Babes. Tiff,Jeana,and the rest of the honeys.lol They look good in all that makeup and jewelry hunting.lol I'll go with them anytime if invited.lol You would too.lol
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 08:36:35 (permalink)
    Anyone that fishes for Steel in the Erie Tribs or for stocked trout on opening day then turns around and criticizes hunting deer from a box blind or bear over bait as not hunting needs to do a little self reflection. Sorry..... I just hate it when I see hunters bashing other hunters for hunting legally. 

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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 09:55:37 (permalink)
    Don't see many of those tv hunters practicing C&R do you ????
     

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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 09:59:10 (permalink)
    I personally don't fish for stocked Trout anywhere. I do fish for returning or migrating Steelhead on several Great Lakes. I release almost all my fish caught, even trophy size fish. I never fish on private posted waters or have ever used a private guide. I try to always avoid crowds or waters that are too small or busy with people. And yes I do think it's pitiful to see 15 adult guys standing in a circle in one foot of water trying to catch fish! Just won't see me there.
     
    I prefer the challenge of all sports , the competition of pursuing game or fish on an "equal" playing field. Fair chase are a words I like to use. Hunting animals enclosed in a fenced in area will never be my cup of tea. It's legal also, just as is hunting over bait or on private posted property legal in many areas. So when I watch a show on TV and see some person squeeze a trigger on an animal at a loaded feeder , hunting out of a luxury suite on stilts, high above his target on private heavily posted land I call it as I see it.............pitiful ! 
     
    What would you call it ?       
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 10:05:51 (permalink)
    An opinion is what I would call it.

    I have 6 elavated blinds on my and my family's property. I plant large food plots. I hunt with in the law in every aspect. Some people think I'm cheating, others think I'm roughing it. It's a TV show you watched. It's ment to entertain to some people it was entertaining, other may think it's a joke. The only part of the story you know is what was shown on the show, not saying it deeper than that, could be exactly what was seen. It's speculation.

    As for the expensive gear, while not necessary it does contribute more to conservation by carrying a larger excise tax. So if you need a positive you can take that away
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 10:32:53 (permalink)
    An opportunity to change the channel.

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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 10:42:26 (permalink)
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    As a seasoned hunter,I've hunted and entire season,being out on two sit a day and still not killed a buck. I just love it when the TV hunter says I've been here in Iowa hunting HARD for two or three days before I bagged my monster 180 PY. lol I don't watch it for the hunting anymore,just the Babes. Tiff,Jeana,and the rest of the honeys.lol They look good in all that makeup and jewelry hunting.lol I'll go with them anytime if invited.lol You would too.lol



    ...... and why is there more and more babes, on TV dressed in jewelery, sitting in trees? Let me guess, promoting female hunting. lmao.


    As for hunting with those 'babes', no thanks, I been fishing and hunting with my same babe the past 45 years and she leaves her jewelery at home.
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 11:32:30 (permalink)
    Funny how people will draw deer into their area with food for weeks or months before hunting and think that's not patterning deer to easy food access. I have deer come to my bird feeder every day at just about sunset daily. If I removed the bird feeder today I bet for the next several weeks or months those same deer would continue to come in and look for feed. They were simply patterned to come "my way" by being hungry.  
     
    Your right it's just my opinion.....nothing more.
     
    A guy I know plants lots of buckwheat in his hunting area said it really brings the deer in from all areas steady.....lol    
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 12:09:43 (permalink)
    Hook, not completely sure your last post was directed at me. If so who is saying it isn't patterning? Also just because you have a food plot doesn't automatically make it a destination for deer. Much more goes into it than that. That simplifying it to that is like saying fishing is throwing a worm on a hook into the water.

    If my plots are set in a corner of a 100 acre field of soybean, my plot is .5 acres is my plot conditioning those deer to come to eat?

    It's fascinating the lines people will draw of what's acceptable and anything that deviates is "wrong". If it's legal I generally will not pass judgment (I'm human), I also understand that just because it's legal doesn't make it right morally.
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 12:22:08 (permalink)
    No not directed to you personally, just saying what I've seen and heard over the years by some so called sport hunters. Lots of things are legal but some people like using a slight advantage so as to make the odds more favorable for their success. Lets just say they teeter on the edges of the laws.   
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 12:27:49 (permalink)
    I would agree to that. Here would be an example. If I plant turnips in my food plot that's legal, should I pull one out of the ground and let it lay there for the deer to eat, that could be considered baiting. The act of pulling the turnip out made my plot a bait site.

    Let's be honest human on the whole are always looking for advantages. If not we would be hunting with our bare hands with no clothing
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 14:15:14 (permalink)
    That would known as "hunting bare"...let's listen for the moan...😏


    Sorry Jigs.. I couldn't wait.😜

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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 19:03:02 (permalink)
    I just feel there is no animal smarter than a human when it comes to survival . We can wipe species off the earth without much trouble if we really wanted. Hunting and fishing are sports that should give that species an equal chance at surviving. At least level the playing field for their survival. Hence, seasons, limits , shooting hours, rules and regulations all make for fair chase for harvesting them. Even without breaking the laws some techniques used to harvest game or fish are just not what I would call ethical or sporty......but that's just my opinion.  
     
    Shows like the one I watched would make many good hunters shake their head. Get out your truck , climb into a cozy tree house , shoot a deer eating at a feeder, climb down and take a picture, go home and eat supper. Another tough hunt in!
     
    Easy as 1,2,3 and it's legal ......as BTDT would say ....dumb deer...I mean fish ! 
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 20:38:55 (permalink)
    Would you feel the same way if the Hunter was disabled or terminally ill or a member of the military about to leave for a dangerous deployment?

    Not saying this was the case for the show you seen, just playing devils advocate. While what you described most certainly sound like easy hunting. I guess I'm from the school of what ever floats your boat. I know guys who hunt in fences and feel perfectly ok with that. But that's another discussion because it's more complex than it sounds
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/10 21:53:14 (permalink)
    Kill for Thrill by any other name is still a shame.

    BUT WAIT.... Kill for Thrill and SHARE THE HARVEST.

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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/11 00:31:05 (permalink)
    If the guy was handicapped I would understand fully 100%....this conversation wouldn't happen.
     
    I just think it's sad that some adult hunting shows I've seen on TV are about such easy pickings at killing trophy animals that I don't see the skill ,sport, or thrill. I guess if paying to shoot a ten point buck enclosed in a fenced area or eating at a feeder is someone's idea of big game hunting I'd advise that person to never try hunting Grizzly Bear in recluse mountain ranges! But I don't think a pampered hunter like that would ever think about anything close to that !    
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/11 08:12:44 (permalink)
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    Open Your eyes, your looking at the wrong way.
    It/they are not hunting shows. It/they are infomercials to sell you a product that is geared toward those who partake in the outdoors. Nothing more nothing less.
    Are they all the same? No. There are some half decent ones but by the time they make the one of the major Outdoor channels rotations they have been reduced to a commercial for their sponsors. It's all about the money with horn porn.
     
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/11 09:19:55 (permalink)
    I'll agree to that, there were lots of products to sell or advertised by sponsors .
     
    In reality even most outdoor pro's are not that great, but when you have money and time it's much easier to accomplish what most think is great or special....... at least on TV. 
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/11 09:23:20 (permalink)
    Hehh heh, Mike said "horn porn"....... cool!


    ..... and he is correct, it's all about making the mighty buck. [no pun intended]


    Capt. what is it now days 18 minutes of program and 12 minutes of commercials.

    That's all a guy needs to get a program on those networks. Hey I got it, you do the commercials and I'll sit in a tree swinging my feet or stand in the bow of a boat pretending I'm catching stupid fish!!! Priceless!!!
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/11 16:44:34 (permalink)
    https://youtu.be/tDsUx4PH5Aw  A canned hunt is a canned hunt, I don't care if you're handicapped, a veteran, or anything else.  And why does anybody even go to these examples anyway?  Don't brag you shot a 180 when you paid $5000 and were told by the game ranch managers which deer you could or couldn't shoot.  The narration on this video is hard to listen to, obviously PETA or some other outfit put it together, but it goes to the heart of this conversation.  
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/11 17:33:07 (permalink)
    Agriculture.

    While not a proponent of canned big game hunts, it can be viewed as simply killing an animal that was raised for the purpose of being killed. It is no different than slaughtering any other type of animal other than the method of dispatch.

    If somebody gets their jollies from it, and it is legal, who am I to judge?

    Personally, I don't watch them.

    But keep in mind what you are watching, if you do. People are not tuning in to watch someone not shoot something. Just like people are not tuning in to watch someone cast for 22 minutes to not catch anything. Think of it like any other type of "entertainment" on TV.

    The whodunnit is always solved by the end of the show. Somebody always gets voted off or out by the end of the show. Somebody always kills something by the end of the show.

    Think about how mind numbing boring most of your hunts are ( and be truthful), them think about how much more boring they would be for someone to watch you being boring.

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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/11 17:43:42 (permalink)
    I brought up the handicap example as nearly food for thought, It can make a person look inside to see exactly where they stand on an issue. I would find it hard to believe most people on there soap box could look a person with a handicap or terminal illness and explain to them how they feel that their canned hunt is wrong.

    It's a polarizing topic, they would not be in business if people didn't go to them.

    Another food for thought question. Say a mature whitetail buck has a home range of 1000 acres, if you were to hunt in a square pen that is 20,000 acres. No feeders, just business as usual if there were no fence, stands of timber. Swamp. Field. Some ag fields. Hills. Valleys.

    Is that the better or worse than a feeder hunt on nonfenced private land?
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/11 20:32:24 (permalink)
    As stated.......hunting shows = gear pimpin'
     
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    Re: Most Hunting shows on TV are a joke 2017/09/11 23:34:22 (permalink)
    You guys are right those hunting shows are only entertainment just like movies at the theaters. Some are horror, some drama , some action . I'd label the one I watched comedy !    
     
    Some people need a handicap to be successful in hunting sports.....might be a fence, might be a guide, might be a feeder, might be money....might be cheating! As long as it's hanging on the wall who will ever know.....but you and your conscious.
     

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