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2017/08/18 08:44:53 (permalink)

Nets

Does anyone know if the nets near the buoy off of presque isle are commercial fishing nets or some type of study can't really find a straight answer thank you
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    wanderer
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    Re: Nets 2017/08/18 08:50:47 (permalink)
    or should i better say what are the flags out there i guess i dont really know if nets are under them
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    Re: Nets 2017/08/18 09:59:38 (permalink)
    Commercial nets...
    There is a site online somewhere with locations think there are 3 license in PA.
    Someone else here will have better info.
    WCW
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    Re: Nets 2017/08/18 10:15:19 (permalink)
    Trying to grow enough hair to dare try the BIG lake I found wander's question to be of interest. So me being me I thought it might be a good idea, before getting tangled up in such a device, I should do some research on this important matter.

    Having found such information and me being me, I felt it would be a nice gesture on my part (me being me) to share what I found.


    PS. No thanks necessary except to wander for bringing, this matter to light.


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    Forgot. Dam old timers.

    http://www.fishlakeerie.c./reports/trapnets-pa.htm

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    Re: Nets 2017/08/18 10:34:07 (permalink)
     BTDT they are in high traffic area and poorly marked by faded flag and some"buoys" so be  careful...WCW
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    Re: Nets 2017/08/18 10:48:17 (permalink)
    workcanwait....
     BTDT they are in high traffic area and poorly marked by faded flag and some"buoys" so be  careful...WCW


    Thank you WCW I been trying to get up to PI for a look see and eventually get my feet wet in the bay. Be
    my luck the lake would be calm and I'd get brave, and end up tangled in one of those nets. 😳

    Stupid nets.....

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    Re: Nets 2017/08/18 13:38:09 (permalink)
    I've ran through them by accident hard to see the flags didn't get tangled but wasn't dragging fishing gear at the time the reason i brought it up was i thought the erie stamp was to pay commercial fishermen not to net thanks for input everyone
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    Re: Nets 2017/08/18 19:32:02 (permalink)
    I've actually stopped trolling for eyes,and went over and watched them wench up the nets. Everything in them,perch,eyes,goats,and surprisingly tons of huge suckers. They net perch but there allowed X amount of eyes. Goes by poundage. Back in the early 80's one netter told me he was allowed 20,000 lbs of eyes. I'm glad he was perch fishing.lol
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    Re: Nets 2017/08/18 19:48:11 (permalink)
    wow unreal i wondered what they do thanks
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    Re: Nets 2017/08/18 20:10:11 (permalink)
    and also what happened to the erie stamp paying the commercial fishermen to quit don't understand was always told that was what it was for
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    Re: Nets 2017/08/18 20:49:49 (permalink)
    wanderer, the original lake erie stamp was to pay off the gill netters to either quit or switch to trap nets. They(PFBC) found it such the a fine money maker they kept it in play and branded it as a way to improve the Lake Erie fisherie aka keep the steelies stocked and screw the boat fisherman.

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    Re: Nets 2017/08/18 22:23:50 (permalink)
    I don't know what the stamp money goes for. Don't know if it is just the trout or both stamps but last I read the money goes into the general coffers. From there the money can, I believe be used for whatever. Including SOS, but I shall stand corrected.

    Also, if hooking a net with fishing gear, you cut your line. you are not to pull the nets.

    In addition if you, have my luck, get tangled in a net you are to call the coast guard.

    Dam.... maybe I should stay home.
    post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2017/08/18 22:25:16

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    Re: Nets 2017/08/19 00:26:51 (permalink)
    thanks everyone for the info very helpful good fishing to everyone
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    Re: Nets 2017/08/19 22:47:18 (permalink)
    Those net markers are near impossible to see until you're right on top of them. I've nearly run my gear through them three or four times this year trolling off the point because the buoys are so tiny. Thankfully I only run a 2-4 rod spread and can turn on a dime, it's got to be h**l maneuvering around those things for the guys that run 8-12+ rods.
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    Re: Nets 2017/08/20 10:08:55 (permalink)
    If I recall correctly, the permit used to pay for stopping gill netting was actually a sticker that went on your boat next to the registration sticker. It was only in existence for a few years.

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    Re: Nets 2017/08/22 04:53:01 (permalink)
    Yeah, the LE stamp was to subsidize the losses the commercial fishermen suffered when gill nets were finally banned, that program was supposed to last either 3 or 5 years, can't remember which.  I think we're down to only 1 commercial fisherman now, aren't we?  I thought Mathers got out of the game after getting popped a few times for slipping gill nets into his spread, and the other is going to be Bubba's boyfriend on death row.  Pees me off if Lake Erie Stamp monies are being used throughout the state, it was all to stay right here for Lake Erie programs.  Heaven forbid if Pennsylvania's pellet-head stocking has to suffer.  Trout meat is supposed to be pink/orange, not that nasty white color out of the hatchery.  When I fished the streams, I'd hike back for miles on my 2 favorites before even casting a line and catch big holdovers who's meat had returned to the color it's supposed to be.  Fine eating right there.  
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    Re: Nets 2017/08/22 08:27:11 (permalink)
    I wonder if the lack of gill nets, which increased the walleye, is the reason for the lack of steelhead return. 
     
     
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    Re: Nets 2017/08/22 09:11:27 (permalink)
    Just like a new tax, almost never repealed, once it is started.  Many toll roads or bridges start out as " temporary," esp. in other states, to pay for the infrastructure but, they never, ever go away. 
     
    Back in the day, you used to get a little sticker to put on your license for the Erie stamp.
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    Re: Nets 2017/08/22 13:37:31 (permalink)
    Yep, we are still paying 18% tax on alcohol for the Johnstown Flood in 1936.  Even though the rebuild was paid for in 1942.
     
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    Re: Nets 2017/09/11 16:33:47 (permalink)
    Remember reading that the commercial fisherman who killed his wife story was he was sick and went out to clean the rotting fish from his nets because he was sick earlier in the week and she must have fell over board when he wasn't looking. Now I have read on the Ohiogamefishing website where there have been fishermen out on the lake coming across large amounts of dead perch floating near the commercial fishing nets.Makes me wonder if these people should be out there at all. The story a couple weeks back in the Erie Times featuring a commercial fisherman who,s boat could not go out unless the waves were two feet or less ! How many fish are just pulled out of the nets and discarded after a few days of not being able to tend their nets? The quota they can fill is not counted into the dead loss so how many fish are just being wasted. Not very good management 
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    Re: Nets 2017/09/13 14:49:49 (permalink)
    I believe that most of the commercial nets being used are huge.  I talked to the guy who owns the Real Glory, the same one from the article I believe. He said his nets are as big as 40x40 and some are 20x40, but not sure how deep but regardless there would be plenty of room for the fish to swim around in.  I don't think that they would be dying in the nets being that big.  I'm sure there is some loss but I can see it being that high.  Was this Ohio commercial fisherman? I know that some of the Canadians still use gill nets but not sure about any other states.  If they are gill netting, I can see that but with a commercial trap net there has to be room and wouldn't expect the fish to die there, at least more then a few.
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    Re: Nets 2017/09/13 14:57:39 (permalink)
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    I wonder if the lack of gill nets, which increased the walleye, is the reason for the lack of steelhead return. 
     
     


    crawlerman2 While I believe that the increased walleye have done a number on the steelhead, it maybe an interesting fact that the gill net restriction caused it.  Someone else on here said the same idea about when the walleye were abnormally high, the steelhead decrease, and when the walleye were down (in the early 2000's) the steelhead fishery was abnormally high. 
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    Re: Nets 2017/09/25 20:08:47 (permalink)
    I got caught in those nets years ago, what a mess, with rigger balls. foggy, couldn't see flag markers and back then no previous posted locations. What a ****. Right on fishin coyote, still payday, a tax that was promised will never go away, lake fishermen who don't give a ****e about steelhead are paying for easements. Go figure. Steelhead numbers are down. Geez, no kidding. Look how many hungry walleye are around. They LOVE young nutritious oily steelhead. What else is there for them to eat?

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    Re: Nets 2017/09/25 22:50:57 (permalink)
    Meatball
    lake fishermen who don't give a ****e about steelhead are paying for easements. Go figure. Steelhead numbers are down. Geez, no kidding. Look how many hungry walleye are around. They LOVE young nutritious oily steelhead. What else is there for them to eat?



    Well... i guess the steelhead stockings that lake fishermen don’t care about are doing wonders for the walleye fishing huh?

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