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Re: fun stuff 2018/12/29 18:11:58 (permalink)
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/12 12:43:45 (permalink)
Read where Sika Deer are being seen on trail cams in Ny and the state wants them shot out over fears of disease spread to whitetail.
No seasons and not protected in any way from what I understood.
Go getum---
Although only one buck seems to have been seen a few times on trail cam it seems unlikely IMHO that only one would appear up in Oswego county all alone- with the only others in Ny I read of being enclosed in Southern Ny. unless its a lonely escaped pet.
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/12 20:33:07 (permalink)
We've had fallow deer farms near my house.
Haven't seen any of them loose locally.
Sika deer are first I've heard of loose but just seen DEC says shoot on spot, probably a long island issue or pen hunts closer to border states
My freezer is starting to get thin so maybe I should look towards them now, lol.
Lots of opportunities right now, rabbits and small game before February and hardwater.
Please, please, pretty please, keep the snow away. All is good.
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/12 21:43:25 (permalink)
How can it not be fun stuff when a fan of the man who stops by to pay tribute to the man, Willie Nelson.
Photo of Bob Seger and Lukas Nelson tonight. Only in Nashville, shucks.

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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/13 09:49:04 (permalink)
https://www.syracuse.com/outdoors/2019/01/have-you-see-this-exotic-deer-dec-wants-this-invader-shot.html
 
This is actually not too far from me. There actually is a fenced exotic hunt area fairly close to there and even though all their deer are ''accounted'' for I am guessing it came there.

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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/16 08:56:29 (permalink)
The fight never stops--
In Ct a couple of anti legislators are proposing a bill that will basically give the right to hunt or discharge a weapon to the towns and cities within their geographical areas
Although there is some question if this would even get out of committee it is , none the less, on some legislators agendas.
Imagine if each town or city could control ( actually abolish) hunting altogether.
This is a VERY liberal state so the outcome would be obvious in many places.
Actually the  precedent in Ct already exists as one city did it before modern times and the law still exists there.
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/16 11:18:04 (permalink)
r3g3-there are a number of cities, towns and villages that do not allowing hunting of any kind in New York.  All the municipalities have to do is make application to the state to enact ordinances prohibiting hunting.   In recent years the deer herds have exploded and now politicians are scrambling to find ways to control the ever expanding population including but not limited to birth control measures.  They are spending hundreds of thousands dollars on said programs with poor results.  The bottom line, and they been told this on numerous occasions by state biologists, hunting is the best, most efficient, way to deal with the problem.  
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/16 12:00:34 (permalink)
Being from Maryland (wasn't my fault😞) I find the story of the Sika Deer interesting.

Sika's (A/K/A; little brown elk) has inhabited the marshes of Maryland, for many many years, where there is different seasons of hunt such as, muzzle loader and archery.

Don't know why NY would be so concerned about the existence of the Sika Deer. They're soooo dammed cute. 😄😄

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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/16 14:04:26 (permalink)
Antis are really nuts ( and dangerous to each of us)  IMHO- they stop hunting and hire people to eliminate deer by sterilizing and or night shooting.
Spending big bucks of tax dollars instead of taking in hunting tag dollars.
Think they do the alternatives because we drooling  idiot one toothed 'deplorables' ENJOY hunting and they cant stand it.
 
Its Ok though because when they outlaw all hunting only outlaws will hunt.
They will then establish laws to minimize the punishment for we criminals and establish sanctuary areas for hunters to hunt in.
Then they will interfere whenever L/E comes after us and allow us to get away scott free using liberal judges.
 All conviction  appeals will go to the 9th circuit court and we will all be exonerated and get our guns returned.
 
 Orrrrr we will all buy crossbows and gillie suits and become modern 'poachers' and there aint no body out there who will even know we exist.
In the long run we wont have to deal with tag fees or seasons and can do what we want whenever we want and wherever we want.
OOps thats illegals and criminals
Oh yea-right- thats what we will be.
 
We ARE the last generation to do what we do the way we do it---sad.
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/16 15:02:33 (permalink)
r3g3-what the anti's don't or can't understand is that through conservation efforts the whitetail deer is one of the greatest success stories. The wild turkey is another.  The whitetail populations were decimated at the turn of the twentieth century.  Were it not for sound practices and the sportsmen they may have become something to look at in the Museum of Natural History.  Some have finally come to understand the role the modern day hunter plays but not before damage to the ecosystem has already been done.  Over browsing by uncontrolled deer populations has resulted in a lack of secondary growth of under story and trees needed to protect the aquifer and other birds & animals.  Even the worst farmer knows to not have more animals than his land can support.
   
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/16 15:56:10 (permalink)
Most urban dwellers could not care less about the conservation of deer, turkeys, or any other woodland critters. They just know that guns are scary, therefore hunters are scary.

During a recent poll of working (a job that includes actual press credentials, not bloggers or wanna bes) journalists, over 90% could not name someone they knew that owned a pick-up truck. How conservation minded (other than save the whales, snails, and bats they they are told are special), hunters, or gun owners do you think they know? Yet they will tell you what to think about conservation, hunting, and guns.

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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/16 16:53:06 (permalink)
So speaking of fun stuff, farmers and hunters.
My grandson William ( Willie) who is now almost 3 months old, was given the gifts of life. His other grandfather has ordered 2 apple trees, 5 raspberry plants and 12 strawberry plants for him.
This grandpa got him a lifetime sportsman license.

We love our outdoors here.

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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/16 18:06:44 (permalink)
edit -getting too political
 
Have real issues with people trying to change my lifestyle
 
 
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/16 20:24:50 (permalink)
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edit -getting too political
 
Have real issues with people trying to change my lifestyle
 
 


I have real issues with people that move into our county and try to change my lifestyle

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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/19 09:03:41 (permalink)
Ct is now proposing a 50% tax on ammo-- the attacks continue-------
 
Odd how the antis think- a bill that could easily limit hunting and shooting and a bill to drastically increase the tax on ammo.
 
Ahhhh -I see the light--if the first goes through the second will keep up the revenue from ammo sales.
Never let anything lower tax revenue lol.
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/19 09:18:48 (permalink)
That’s almost as laughable as when Chicago proposed a 5 cents per round tax. The theory was that the money would be used for the medical bills if those shot in the city and the extra cost of ammo would be a huge deterrent to drive by shootings because of the amount of ammo typically used.

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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/19 12:18:05 (permalink)
Reality is that most of those 'street shooters' have no gun sense whatsoever.
Spray and pray.
Took a semi rifle from a drug dealer that had been oiled heavily with 10/40 and put in a closet collecting dust- could hardly work the action.
Took many revolvers with only a couple of rounds in them and then not even similar rounds.
Autos with only 2 or 3 rounds in the clip and filthy dirty.
Partner took a lever 30/30 from a guy laying in a field trying to get  .45 into the action pointing it my was as I approached without seeing him.
 
It goes on.
Yea -they are dangerous sub culture people but NOT proficient in guns.
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/19 12:29:51 (permalink)
I'm not much of a target shooter , if I was then I'd be reloading my own.
Typically, a box of 20 30/06 lasts me 5 years. Typically, they cost 20 bucks.
Shotgun shells cost about the same.
A 5,000 tube of bbs are about the same.
My entire family each have more firearms than myself, all legally registered.
I don't know.. I'm an avid outdoorsman as are my family. None of which have had any issues with current regulations.
Personally, I think its hype

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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/19 12:35:08 (permalink)
Same here Rich- a box of shells for deer or Turkey lasts a long time.
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/19 13:16:03 (permalink)
Since I gave up the hunt years ago I have n't bought any ammo lately,but I have plenty left over to use on a intruder to my domain.A 12 gauge pump is in my closet waiting for such a event.
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/19 14:50:52 (permalink)
With you on that Jack. My problem would be they are locked in a safe and not under my nightstand. Hopefully our watch dogs watch over us

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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/19 15:19:13 (permalink)
Hey Rich- for yard varmints I went from BB  to the .17 air gun a couple of years back.
A bit more for ammo but well worth it. IMHO
For the more stubborn I use .22 subs.lol
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/19 19:14:39 (permalink)
I have a few pellet guns that will do damage.
I really don't use them at all . We mostly shoot indoors at my house and the red rider is fun.
Varmints get stung first before they get a 20 gauge shell.
Been lucky with all my other things going on keeping the garden growing.
Dang dear are the main problem

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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/20 08:17:18 (permalink)
hot tuna
With you on that Jack. My problem would be they are locked in a safe and not under my nightstand. Hopefully our watch dogs watch over us

Snce I have no little ones to worry about my 12 Pump is just sitting there locked, loaded and waiting
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/20 19:16:53 (permalink)
SUPER WOLF BLOOD MOON total eclipse tonight.

Give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you will feed him for a life time. ~Anne Isabella Thackeray Ritchie (1837–1919)~
 
 
 
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/23 20:30:14 (permalink)
I attended my grandsons cub scout meeting tonight as a guest to discuss ice fishing and ice saftey. We have a scout ice fishing event planned this weekend I'm sponsoring and providing all gear and instruction. The kids were great. I was told they were never as attentive as tonight.
They asked some awesome questions about safety then threw me a curve with this question.
" what do you do if you have to go pee ?"
Thanks to a boy scout helper, he said ,just do what a fish would do , lol.. not politically correct but it sure bailed me out of a jam.
I was a cub , Webelos and boy scout myself.
As the motto stands.
Be prepared

Take kids fishing, turn off the news .

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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/23 22:18:52 (permalink)
Hot tuna , You shoudda told that kid, that DEPENDS.  lol  sam
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/24 09:55:12 (permalink)
HT-bring along Mr Peabottle, second cousin to Mrs Peabody.  Good thing they didn't ask about #2. 
  
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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/24 11:19:27 (permalink)
I'm leaving the bathroom duties to the parents responsibility.
It will be funny when they see my other grandson making yellow snow art

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Re: fun stuff 2019/01/26 11:22:21 (permalink)
One fine summer day years ago a friend and his family were at Misquamicut (sp) Beach in Rhode Island.
His father sat in a lawn chair listening to a ballgame.
A young lady in a bikini walked past.
His father stood up, placed his ballcap over his heart. and loudly sang God Bless America.
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