pafisher
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NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
Came upon this info on another board that I read and thought it should be posted here.Apparantly the state bought this land and has turned it over to the DEC for access on the river.The map that I saw shows it to be from Pulaski all the way up to Altmar and beyond.A lot of this was already open but there is a lot more that will be protected now.
Google it and you can view the map!
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/05/25 20:32:40
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And why was the Woodbine Group, developer of Tailwater Lodge, part of the official announcement? Have deals already been made?
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/05/26 08:24:13
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I saw some commentary from non-fishermen saying what an incredible waste of money this is. Little do they know the money it generates. Now we can only hope for some "average" weather years that promote healthy stocks of bait and predator in balance, or whatever factors that help promote it. With Tailwater, it seemed it was going to go the way of the DSR. Not so. Choice is good. I can't find a map, other than the existing accesses. I do wonder if all this will do is add some more parking lots and make areas you actually had to hike to an easy walk. In other words- more crowding and more incentive to pay to play.
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pafisher
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/05/26 16:25:11
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Charlie,the map that I saw showed the land in question starts a the upstream border of Pulaski and runs in a continuous line up to Altmar and beyond.Most of it is both sides of river,there are some gaps but not many.The map is part of the article"NY buys 2800 acres on Salmon River.
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pafisher
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/05/26 16:25:11
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Charlie,the map that I saw showed the land in question starts at the upstream border of Pulaski and runs in a continuous line up to Altmar and beyond.Most of it is both sides of river,there are some gaps but not many.The map is part of the article"NY buys 2800 acres on Salmon River",google that.
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/05/26 18:28:15
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If I have read the various articles properly there is a total of 6,000 acres involved with 3,800 in the Tug area and the remaining 2,800 in the Sr area being turned over to the State by National Grid. The former Grid land along the Reservoir and Salmon river is being turned over as the result of an outstanding legal claim by the State. The land around Tug is being purchased by the State. Don't know enough to tell if any real NEW SR fishing areas are involved.
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/05/26 20:51:36
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 Yes National Greed was strong armed into turning the land and over due to gross pollution outputs from coal plants in WNY. FWIW Garret from DSR was there too.
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/05/27 13:17:27
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If a non fisherperson objects to spending money on Wildlands, bring up the Albany Pine Barrens reserve, and its staff of 13 well paid people. From my perspective in WNY, this is one of the biggest wastes in the Environmental Protection fund, pork for the Albany interests and the bird and bunny (and butterfly)lovers. The land along the lower SR is all the public access land we've been enjoying since 2005. It is highly unlikely that this acquistion will have any effect on additional crowding as there are limited areas where the water can be easily reached due to the steep gorge sides in many areas. A lot of the acreage is above the Reservoir. http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2017/05/gov_cuomo_announces_acquisition_of_6000_prime_acres_along_near_salmon_river.htmlhttp://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/fish_marine_pdf/r7salrivpfr.pdf Click on the map (same as what Clint posted) in the story, it enlarges. Then compare the yellow areas to the PFR maps on the DEC website. I don't see a big difference, and some areas like from the Altmar Bridge down to the wires are held by easement by NYSDEC, so all that land is for sale by Land First, but will still be accessible for fishing, or so we have been assured by NYSDEC. It does look like it might include more of the west edge of water (south bank) land from Pineville to 2a, but I'd like to see a more detailed map with the roads on it before I definitely conclude that.
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/06/13 18:09:21
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Joss Farm get sold ???
Bought by State ???
Fishing ???
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/06/14 11:12:33
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It is not on the map that Clint posted, but there are rumors flying around the Interweb. Where did you get your news?
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/06/14 16:35:53
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Lurking on another forum-it came up so am looking for info. -figured our locals may know more. Agree its not on any maps or even ( from what I could see) on any of the state info available in regard to the large purchase already spoken about here. All the aforementioned transfers seemed above town and regarded the Power Co. lands from what I had read. All the aforementioned purchases appeared to be up on Tug. Wondered if this was something new??? or possibly a misinterpretation of the old info.
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/06/14 21:40:51
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Actually, the more I hear about it the more its starting to sound like bovine field splatter.
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/06/14 22:27:21
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r3 might you be familiar with the Bald Eagle State Park in central PA? That's where you will find the Nature Inn conviently located overlooking the Sayers Reservoir?
Been a while but I'm thinking the resort was trimmed down (drastically) from the original plan.
Of course, Bald Eagle was an already established state park so no land transaction need take place.
Do you suppose somebody might be interested with getting into the resort business?
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/06/14 22:35:43
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No- Starting to think some may be seeing conspiracies. lol
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/06/14 23:58:44
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ewwww them conspiracies can be tricky.... lol.
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/06/15 09:12:57
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I checked the Real Estate listings for up there, and could not even find it listed for sale anymore. Background business information says the dairy makes a pretty good buck, did not say anything about leases or land sales. However, with the hurdles that State Agencies have to jump for press releases lately, it may just be taking a long time for the announcement, if anything did happen.
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/06/15 10:14:47
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Checked listings and transfers also Lucky and found nothing before posting it as a question. If I recall the long standing sign on the field alongside the SR, it may have been that the field and frontage were separated from the rest of the farm. There was Forum chatter about it back when folks first noticed that signage. Again, kinda think this is a bit of a stretch, being tossed in by some, with the other transfers and purchases by the State. Felt it may be better addressed by some locals who likely know more than me. ( now that I am no longer there 70 or 80 days a year). Really missing those days, the area and folks up there, as well as year round fishing opportunities. Going up every couple of weeks just to mow the lawn and keep the place looking Ok just became a place too far after a number of years. Am again reduced to a POS outa stater and mid week warrior status--lol. Still maintain a keen interest in the area though -cant just turn that off.
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/06/19 17:33:30
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I thought I saw a new sign along the tree line before it drops in to the river basin the other day... signs up front are gone as well
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Re: NY state buys 2800+ acres of land on Salmon River
2017/06/24 12:11:49
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If the Joss property has in fact been sold to another private landowner what impact will it have on access to the lower parts of DSR from the parking lot side of the river? How far does the Joss property extend into the river at the Joss Hole? I've had some epic days fishing the Joss Hole and would be disappointed if access was now limited.
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