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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/23 19:15:27 (permalink)
Good outing Clint, really glad to hear  you got into them.
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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/23 22:23:02 (permalink)
Good to hear you' re able to get out and abuse your upper body again!
 
Up in the " Zone"?  Did you have to get there at 3:30 and take headlamps out of the branches to get a spot?
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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/24 12:36:53 (permalink)
Lucky13
Good to hear you' re able to get out and abuse your upper body again!
 
Up in the " Zone"?  Did you have to get there at 3:30 and take headlamps out of the branches to get a spot?

Nah it's really funny that alot of folks really dont know the water. I am a novice at best but I have fished there so much I know most the seams. I literally had100 feet of really good water to rotate up and down on. The trees above my head were a pain but oh well. There were many fishing very "stale" water.
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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/25 19:59:17 (permalink)
Straight forward Clint. Glad you got a few tugs and put one in the net.
Someday I'll fish again

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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/29 17:45:02 (permalink)
I went up today for the last 1.5 hours of daylight. Did not see a single fish hooked , not even a splash. Not even from the "usual" good places. FWIW there were a few folks who it looked like did not have a clue as they were standing chest deep right in the middle. To each their own.

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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/30 10:06:52 (permalink)
Have had some fine fishing days standing behind the belly button deep conga lines  and high lining in back of them where the fish are really running.
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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/30 11:56:25 (permalink)
We've been up there a LOT this fall, I missed the salmon because of my finger injury, but since Columbus day, I've been in Pulaski about as much as I've been home, and my odometer shows it!  Twobob has characterized it as the worst run he has ever seen, worse than the thiamenase years when we at least encountered fish early, before they started whirling down the river.  He has landed one steelhead, and played a couple more, I've landed two browns, and had maybe three chromers for very short contact, and one beauty that, when I got the flyline back on the reel, I broke off because she was dorsal hooked.  I have seen bobber doggers get bit when a pod goes through, but the pods are small (sometimes one fish) and few and far between.  And therew are fish ijn UFZ, but you've got anout 5 legal hours up there until April. An Article in the latest Great Lakes Angler says fall runs are getting later, and I've heard at least a couple of folks blame this year's lack of fish on the small run of salmon contributing a poor egg load to draw in fish, but the 4000 cfs a few weeks ago should have brought a lot more than what came in.  I'm  hopeful that they show up over winter, or droppie season will be very limited, and who knows what we'll see in 2020, which will be the first 20% redux in 3 year old kings, with a 36% redux in 2 year olds. 


Randy Jones will tell you that everything is fine, but we've heard from quite a few other guides that things are way off.  But if you want to go up, no problems getting a room this year.
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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/30 15:59:23 (permalink)
Am resigned to the fact that SR fishing -in my life time- will never be what it once was.
Yes- they come in to eat the eggs but it aint like they have a newspaper to tell them eggs are there lol- its an instinctive movement learned over generations.
Might think that the annual Fall push is all we have seen, which might mean the long trickle to follow wont be all that impressive either.
Sad.
( as usual hope to be proven wrong)
Can say what they want about fishing pressure but I got rooms ( 2 each trip) on just a couple of days notice both trips this Fall -first place called both times too. THAT used to be impossible.
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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/30 16:48:28 (permalink)
L13, you've missed the best and now its the rest. Why don't you think I spend times in other places. I haven't been in 2 years now.
Keep cutting the stocks and it may be 20 years.
Pretty sure i could go hook a few if i wanted, but more fishers than fish, i really don't want.
Once the wave is over ( on the net) i will be back.
Probably still see pukerbush creek, creep

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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/30 17:53:39 (permalink)
Well today wa as much better, there were a few around to play with. I fished from 8 until 230. I would guess I had around 10 on during that time. I got 2. One time I had 3 casts and 3 fish on. They came in spurts. Some fought like a boot and some were hot. There were even a few nice silver ones jumping around. You had to work hard for your takes. All were on little green nymphs, that's all they wanted from me. I can't figure out how to post a pic from my phone. Maybe HT will enlighten me LOL. Same guy standing chest deep today , ruining it for those above him. The people across from him did ok though. One guy fishing a float 2 feet above his fly. When you see stuff like this do you guys say something or let it be. I would want to know, (if said in a nice way) if I was doing something like that. I would be afraid I would get an earful if I tried to help so I just let it be.

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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/30 19:52:35 (permalink)
Jack's little peekok green nymph has been killer for me in past.
As for posting pictures from a phone,
You need to screenshot them from the original. Original are to large.
Once you screenshot them,then post to upload files below. Make sure you choose the screenshot picture

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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/30 21:03:23 (permalink)
I speak up Clint. People don't like some of the things I say but I do try and be real

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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/30 21:15:51 (permalink)
Thanks HT

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Re: 1/22/17 2019/11/30 21:18:19 (permalink)
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Re: 1/22/17 2019/12/01 08:09:23 (permalink)
Looks like they're still salmon hunting.

When you open the picture on your phone, wait a few seconds for all the phone stuff to go away before taking the screenshot and
You shouldn't get all the other stuff . At least how it works on my phone.

Nice fish !

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Re: 1/22/17 2019/12/01 15:25:11 (permalink)
No, Tuna, I was there for the best, and am still hanging in for the rest. 
 
As to cutting stocks , what happens if you put 5 piglets in your pen and then give the five food that is only enough for three?   The bait surveys and the condition reports on the fish ( -3 lbs for 3 year olds, -3.4 lbs for 2 year olds) say that is what is going on in LO.
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Re: 1/22/17 2019/12/01 18:02:38 (permalink)
I was kinda torking L-13. I know you've seen much but I can't figure out your fishing lately. I've done nothing to speak of fishing wise in due of other things.
If you've put more time fishing then at home and the results your saying, I'd find another outdoors recreation. What I don't understand is the thought of paying to play outside of salmon. I've always had difficulty after October in the Neverland when I could fish anytime I wished for the year.
You also talked of ufz being stacked with coho, didn't this appeal to you ? It would me.
I keep my livestock at a level to harvest and not waste. Apples to oranges.
If stocks keep getting reduced, so will returns, especially steelhead which have a different forage base.
Make cuts , no matter to me at this point other than maybe less driftboats and out of state plates.
If all goes well, I hope to share a few pictures of those elusive steelhead myself in February.

Ps.
If I give my livestock enough food for 5 , all 5 will eat it all .if I only give them enough for 3, the remaining 2 will fight for survival or share the slotted food. Either way , it will all get eaten
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Re: 1/22/17 2019/12/01 19:07:09 (permalink)
My original intent with the pass was to fish in later August and for Salmon.  When I went in the week of Labor Day, what I saw was like the old days, a pair of fishers at each choke point, likely "floss yawking" when they saw a salmon.  Not encouraging.  Nevertheless, I was on my way out the door to go back the next week, when the cohos ran through there, when my daughter broke the mirror.  So by the time I could fish, the salmon were all zombied up.  The week the trout really came in, my daughter was having emergency surgery, and the I made the hot sauce while waiting around for her to be released, and I missed that.  Since then it has been a question of playing catch-up, always with the thought that "the big run has to show up one of these days."  That is over now, this storm puts the damper on travel in the Lake Effect Band.    Next year is likely to be passless; it is crowded down in DSR in salmon season, and if I want to fish down there after 11/1 it is cheaper to buy an afternoon pass. 
 
The other scenario with livestock and feed is that they all get a share but none get enough to maintain healthy growth, so yield is lower, and there is a risk of disease that all may be more susceptable to due to less than proper diet and growth.  Like Lake Huron.
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Re: 1/22/17 2019/12/01 20:16:13 (permalink)
My take on the last few years is right place right time. The "glory " days of past may be gone, but there is still potential for a good day. I would rather have less fish and less people, but surely don't want the days of your lucky to get a pull over a three day weekend either. This is for the trout. I honestly really dont care much for salmon anymore, probably more due to the antics than the fishing, but you need one for the other

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Re: 1/22/17 2019/12/02 09:25:56 (permalink)
The objective of stocking all these fish was to control the alewife, and the king has done an exceptional job of that.  So while there may be less stocked, they will remain in the mix, especially with the amount of natural reproduction, which should get another set of measurements if they can get the staffing lined up to run the fin clipper for the next few years.  I know people who say the king should be eliminated from the stocking program in favor of the steelhead, but the biology of the two fishes makes that impossible in any significant way.  It takes about 6 months in the hatchery and the kings are ready to go into the pens or the lake.  Trout, and cohos, require an additional year before they smolt, and DEC has basically described the cost differential as 10 kings for one steelhead, or 180,000 additional chromers if you got rid of the 1.8 million kings that were being stocked. 
 
IF you think poor returns might be the result of overharvest out on the big pond, please remember that DEC is accepting comments on the regulations changes until December 14.  GO to http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/115977.html  and follow the instructions.  They want a reason you support or don't support the change, and poor returns and the need for better returns to the tribs might be a good reason to cut the steelhead limit to two out on the lake.  I  personally also support the change to a 25" size limit to allow the steelhead one shot at spawning before they are removed from the system.  I would guess you would not mind that, Clint, as you tend to stay in the zones where none are retained anyway.   But 25" keeps a few more players in the system longer, and still allows someone a chance at a trophy fish.
 
 It should be noted that the west end Charter captains, who at recent GL Fisheries Commission and SOL meetings have maintained that steelhead are only an incidental catch for them, despite the boat survey data that indicates over 20% of the harvest coming from the west end of the lake, are getting their shorts all rolled up over this one big time, and have been vocal in urging their members to weigh in against these changes, so every voice here counts.
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Re: 1/22/17 2019/12/02 12:24:24 (permalink)
I keep one or 2 a year and would not have any issue with a size change. When I have a buddy I try to get out of the zones, but I dont like walking alone anymore, especially in the cold. I also (at this point) am behind the cuts. I voiced my opinions on the dec site and I would like to see a one fish trout limit on the lake and no taking of trout until let's say November 1, let them get by the horses and spread out. We are fishing for the same fish whether in the lake or on the bank. Its put and take for trout (for the most part) and if they are not putting we should take less.

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Re: 1/22/17 2019/12/05 19:34:53 (permalink)
Fished the SR yesterday & today.  r3g3 here is a pair of cohos I took today.

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Re: 1/22/17 2019/12/05 20:02:43 (permalink)
Thanks for the photo- my favorite fish.
CONGRATS
Never know when or where they might show up   lol
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Re: 1/22/17 2019/12/06 05:37:51 (permalink)
Coho?
 
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