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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 12:07:06 (permalink)
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After years of being a PGA member have decided to pass this year - hope many others do the same.
 
They have decided NOT to play on Trumps NJ course this year -a clearly political move not golf related.


It's hard to understand why you would say things like this if you don't still support Trump.  It's also hard to not "lump you in with the nutters" if you do still support Trump after last week.  His policies are one thing, what happened last week was completely another.  


What did he "do" last week? Try to right the stolen election? Try to halt Socialism? Should we pretend we forgot about all the BLM/Antifa thuggery? So it's OK to sell the US out to China like the Biden family did?


 

So you're with the crown and not the constitution?   Got it.   And, if you can't figure out what happened last week I'm not the one to explain it to you.  
 
You loyalists need to get over the election.  It wasn't stolen, all 50 states certified their votes and so did the courts.  You are believing a lie and the people who stormed the capital are guilty of an insurrection against the United States of America and their motive was a LIE.  The lie persists because Donald Trump says so.  He will only recant when he's in court charged with federal crimes and he's begging for selfish mercy.  At that point he will throw all of his loyalists under the bus like he does with everyone in his orbit and maybe then you will understand.  
 
 
 
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 12:07:32 (permalink)
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After years of being a PGA member have decided to pass this year - hope many others do the same.
 
They have decided NOT to play on Trumps NJ course this year -a clearly political move not golf related.


It's hard to understand why you would say things like this if you don't still support Trump.  It's also hard to not "lump you in with the nutters" if you do still support Trump after last week.  His policies are one thing, what happened last week was completely another.  


What did he "do" last week? Try to right the stolen election? Try to halt Socialism? Should we pretend we forgot about all the BLM/Antifa thuggery? So it's OK to sell the US out to China like the Biden family did?



We'll break this down because honestly, I love these tears. They're the best, sweet and salty. 

What did he "do" last week? - Incited a Riotous mob to attack the American Capital. 

Try to right the stolen election? - Prove it. Where's the proof my dear?

Try to halt Socialism? - Did you enjoy your Stimulus? Are you on Social Security? 

Should we pretend we forgot about all the BLM/Antifa thuggery? So it's OK to sell the US out to China like the Biden family did? -  These two hit the best *Chefs Kiss* You know a Trumper is out of gas when they classically resort to whataboutisms. GG bud. 
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 12:09:29 (permalink)
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 12:19:59 (permalink)
Your all correct- in the future I will faithfully follow AOC-Nancy- Nadler and Schiff- they are the true dedicated Americans
 
PS--have you seen Nancys e-mail on the stolen 2016 election??
Was around the same time Hillary was calling for Dems to RESIST.
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 13:23:24 (permalink)
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After years of being a PGA member have decided to pass this year - hope many others do the same.
 
They have decided NOT to play on Trumps NJ course this year -a clearly political move not golf related.


It's hard to understand why you would say things like this if you don't still support Trump.  It's also hard to not "lump you in with the nutters" if you do still support Trump after last week.  His policies are one thing, what happened last week was completely another.  


What did he "do" last week? Try to right the stolen election? Try to halt Socialism? Should we pretend we forgot about all the BLM/Antifa thuggery? So it's OK to sell the US out to China like the Biden family did?



We'll break this down because honestly, I love these tears. They're the best, sweet and salty. 

What did he "do" last week? - Incited a Riotous mob to attack the American Capital. 

Try to right the stolen election? - Prove it. Where's the proof my dear?

Try to halt Socialism? - Did you enjoy your Stimulus? Are you on Social Security? 

Should we pretend we forgot about all the BLM/Antifa thuggery? So it's OK to sell the US out to China like the Biden family did? -  These two hit the best *Chefs Kiss* You know a Trumper is out of gas when they classically resort to whataboutisms. GG bud. 


The sad truth about people like this rippinlip guy is that they have basically been radicalized. All the things that they projected on to Muslims 20 years ago are now true of them. We are probably only a couple weeks away from y’all quaeda suicide bombing Nancy Pelosi’s hairdresser or some shiit.
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 15:06:41 (permalink)
 
Those that truly believe that the election was stolen from Trump, what happened last week wasn't wrong.  It was fighting for what they believe.  If I believed the election was stolen, I would be cheering them on right now.  Why are all of these GOP Congressmen saying it was a wrong or shameful act?  If they truly believe the election was stolen, they should not be condoning it.  They should be showing the mounds of evidence that the election was stolen.  
 
THIS RIGHT NOW, during the Impeachment hearing, is the time for these GOP Congressmen to show their evidence.  Not get in front of a microphone that Trump wasn't involved with the take over of the Capitol Building.  His one speech may or may not have done anything, who cares?  It was the months of Trump, these same GOP Congressmen/Senators, right wing media and others that have been battling that there is a major covert operation by Democrats, ex-Republicans, courts, state election officials, and others, that stole the election from Trump. 
 
During the first Impeachment, there were charts and other evidence that people were showing.  Some might claim there was no time to prepare, since it has been less than a week since this storming of the Capitol happened.  But there has been close to two months from the election and some claim to have undeniable evidence.  Either the GOP Congress is a bunch of incompetent fools for not presenting or they are a bunch of liars of having undeniable evidence.
 
Maybe the US Supreme Court and others have refused cases, because there is no undeniable evidence and it is all a lie?  That seems to be more and more of what it seems to be to me.  I usually believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle, but I don't really see a middle in this.  Either there was a stolen election caused by a massive covert operation (that there would have to be enough evidence for the MAJORITY conservative US Supreme Court to entertain) or there wasn't and the side that is claiming covert operation is lying about it.
 
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 16:04:13 (permalink)
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Or, maybe, the US Supreme Court and others have refused cases, because there is no undeniable evidence and it is all a lie?  That seems to be more and more of what it seems to be.  I usually believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle, but I don't really see a middle in this.  Either there was a stolen election caused by a massive covert operation (that there would have to be enough evidence for the MAJORITY conservative US Supreme Court to entertain) or there wasn't and the side that is claiming covert operation is lying about it.
 


100 percent this. Every piece from the supreme court and down to local and state election officials were filled with Trump supporters and appointees. If there was anything at all significant in any way would would have heard about it. Get over it. The guy with an approval rating that never got to 50 percent in 4 years lost. Shocker. And at this point if you don't believe that, you ARE a right wing nut.
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 16:13:42 (permalink)
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Those that truly believe that the election was stolen from Trump, what happened last week wasn't wrong.  It was fighting for what they believe.  If I believed the election was stolen, I would be cheering them on right now.  Why are all of these GOP Congressmen saying it was a wrong or shameful act?  If they truly believe the election was stolen, they should not be condoning it.  They should be showing the mounds of evidence that the election was stolen.  
 
THIS RIGHT NOW, during the Impeachment hearing, is the time for these GOP Congressmen to show their evidence.  Not get in front of a microphone that Trump wasn't involved with the take over of the Capitol Building.  His one speech may or may not have done anything, who cares?  It was the months of Trump, these same GOP Congressmen/Senators, right wing media and others that have been battling that there is a major covert operation by Democrats, ex-Republicans, courts, state election officials, and others, that stole the election from Trump. 
 
During the first Impeachment, there were charts and other evidence that people were showing.  Some might claim there was no time to prepare, since it has been less than a week since this storming of the Capitol happened.  But there has been close to two months from the election and some claim to have undeniable evidence.  Either the GOP Congress is a bunch of incompetent fools for not presenting or they are a bunch of liars of having undeniable evidence.
 
Maybe the US Supreme Court and others have refused cases, because there is no undeniable evidence and it is all a lie?  That seems to be more and more of what it seems to be to me.  I usually believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle, but I don't really see a middle in this.  Either there was a stolen election caused by a massive covert operation (that there would have to be enough evidence for the MAJORITY conservative US Supreme Court to entertain) or there wasn't and the side that is claiming covert operation is lying about it.
 


This is always my answer to the Qanon people I know, and it's the same here. Hey - you got proof of this awful crime? That's awesome, how can I help you present this? Can you show it to me so I can understand and help? There's never, ever proof. 

Imagine having irrefutable evidence of one of the largest crimes in US history, and just sitting on it.
Fool me once, yada yada
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 16:29:15 (permalink)
And there we have it, the first single term President since 1993, is impeached for the 2nd time in his 4 years in office, in a Bipartisan vote in the House.
History is made every few days it seems. 
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 16:33:44 (permalink)
Hopefully the Senate portion has a bit more substance and not just a vote and some old people reading pre-written statements.  Once it hit the Senate in the last Impeachment, they all claimed that they were there to vote only and not have new witnesses or evidence.  Not that there really is need for witnesses, it is all about evidence.  It clearly comes down to which side is lying about voter fraud.  One side is claiming there is widespread amounts and have the evidence.  Just show it, if you have it...
 
If there is evidence of massive voter fraud (and the Deep State), Trump will go down as a hero.  If not, history books will not be very favorable to him.
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 16:37:29 (permalink)
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And there we have it, the first single term President since 1993, is impeached for the 2nd time in his 4 years in office, in a Bipartisan vote in the House.
History is made every few days it seems. 


So much winning. #1 worst President ever.
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 16:38:35 (permalink)
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Hopefully the Senate portion has a bit more substance and not just a vote and some old people reading pre-written statements.  Once it hit the Senate in the last Impeachment, they all claimed that they were there to vote only and not have new witnesses or evidence.  Not that there really is need for witnesses, it is all about evidence.  It clearly comes down to which side is lying about voter fraud.  One side is claiming there is widespread amounts and have the evidence.  Just show it, if you have it...
 
If there is evidence of massive voter fraud (and the Deep State), Trump will go down as a hero.  If not, history books will not be very favorable to him.


I would agree with this and your previous post.
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 17:18:35 (permalink)
Looks like Mitch is waiting. Is he waiting to see how Donald reacts during the inauguration?  
post edited by LDD - 2021/01/13 17:24:47
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 17:27:15 (permalink)
I think everyone should be watching FoxNews.  This is being framed as political attack of the Democrats against all Republican voters.  Nothing to do with who is lying and who isn't.  I wonder why?  "They" are calling you a terrorist for voting for Trump...  Looks like FoxNews has no issue with doubling down.  Why not report of what is actually going on?  Oh yeah, that would be factual news, which some just aren't interested in.
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 18:34:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rippinlip 2021/01/14 11:09:18

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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 18:58:38 (permalink)
One term president, impeached twice, lost the popular vote twice, lost the House in 2018, lost the Senate in 2020, over 380,000 dead Americans from corona virus, economic recession on his watch, tried to lead a failed insurrection... that’s his legacy. That’s how history will remember him.

And 10 members of his own party voted for impeachment. In today’s extraordinarily polarized political environment, this might be the most unbelievable part.
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/13 21:23:46 (permalink)
He probably lost any chance of getting added to Mt Rushmore
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/14 11:03:50 (permalink)
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After years of being a PGA member have decided to pass this year - hope many others do the same.
 
They have decided NOT to play on Trumps NJ course this year -a clearly political move not golf related.


It's hard to understand why you would say things like this if you don't still support Trump.  It's also hard to not "lump you in with the nutters" if you do still support Trump after last week.  His policies are one thing, what happened last week was completely another.  


What did he "do" last week? Try to right the stolen election? Try to halt Socialism? Should we pretend we forgot about all the BLM/Antifa thuggery? So it's OK to sell the US out to China like the Biden family did?



We'll break this down because honestly, I love these tears. They're the best, sweet and salty. 

What did he "do" last week? - Incited a Riotous mob to attack the American Capital. 

Try to right the stolen election? - Prove it. Where's the proof my dear?

Try to halt Socialism? - Did you enjoy your Stimulus? Are you on Social Security? 

Should we pretend we forgot about all the BLM/Antifa thuggery? So it's OK to sell the US out to China like the Biden family did? -  These two hit the best *Chefs Kiss* You know a Trumper is out of gas when they classically resort to whataboutisms. GG bud. 


The sad truth about people like this rippinlip guy is that they have basically been radicalized. All the things that they projected on to Muslims 20 years ago are now true of them. We are probably only a couple weeks away from y’all quaeda suicide bombing Nancy Pelosi’s hairdresser or some shiit.

Your party is full of thieves and liars. All documented. They have a Socialist agenda. AlQueeda was your other hero Obama. Wait till all the dirt comes out on him.

You should have been here yesterday.............. Streams are made for the wise man to contemplate and fools to pass by [Sir Izaak Walton]
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/14 11:08:23 (permalink)
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Those that truly believe that the election was stolen from Trump, what happened last week wasn't wrong.  It was fighting for what they believe.  If I believed the election was stolen, I would be cheering them on right now.  Why are all of these GOP Congressmen saying it was a wrong or shameful act?  If they truly believe the election was stolen, they should not be condoning it.  They should be showing the mounds of evidence that the election was stolen.  
 
THIS RIGHT NOW, during the Impeachment hearing, is the time for these GOP Congressmen to show their evidence.  Not get in front of a microphone that Trump wasn't involved with the take over of the Capitol Building.  His one speech may or may not have done anything, who cares?  It was the months of Trump, these same GOP Congressmen/Senators, right wing media and others that have been battling that there is a major covert operation by Democrats, ex-Republicans, courts, state election officials, and others, that stole the election from Trump. 
 
During the first Impeachment, there were charts and other evidence that people were showing.  Some might claim there was no time to prepare, since it has been less than a week since this storming of the Capitol happened.  But there has been close to two months from the election and some claim to have undeniable evidence.  Either the GOP Congress is a bunch of incompetent fools for not presenting or they are a bunch of liars of having undeniable evidence.
 
Maybe the US Supreme Court and others have refused cases, because there is no undeniable evidence and it is all a lie?  That seems to be more and more of what it seems to be to me.  I usually believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle, but I don't really see a middle in this.  Either there was a stolen election caused by a massive covert operation (that there would have to be enough evidence for the MAJORITY conservative US Supreme Court to entertain) or there wasn't and the side that is claiming covert operation is lying about it.
 


This is always my answer to the Qanon people I know, and it's the same here. Hey - you got proof of this awful crime? That's awesome, how can I help you present this? Can you show it to me so I can understand and help? There's never, ever proof. 

Imagine having irrefutable evidence of one of the largest crimes in US history, and just sitting on it.
Fool me once, yada yada


Dems asking for proof is hilarious. You strangled Trumps first term with false accusations. No proof. What you fail to see is while they are seeking revenge under the guise of normal everyday politics they are not getting any of the work done that we hired them to do. And they are spending your money doing it.
 

You should have been here yesterday.............. Streams are made for the wise man to contemplate and fools to pass by [Sir Izaak Walton]
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/14 12:50:20 (permalink)
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Those that truly believe that the election was stolen from Trump, what happened last week wasn't wrong.  It was fighting for what they believe.  If I believed the election was stolen, I would be cheering them on right now.  Why are all of these GOP Congressmen saying it was a wrong or shameful act?  If they truly believe the election was stolen, they should not be condoning it.  They should be showing the mounds of evidence that the election was stolen.  
 
THIS RIGHT NOW, during the Impeachment hearing, is the time for these GOP Congressmen to show their evidence.  Not get in front of a microphone that Trump wasn't involved with the take over of the Capitol Building.  His one speech may or may not have done anything, who cares?  It was the months of Trump, these same GOP Congressmen/Senators, right wing media and others that have been battling that there is a major covert operation by Democrats, ex-Republicans, courts, state election officials, and others, that stole the election from Trump. 
 
During the first Impeachment, there were charts and other evidence that people were showing.  Some might claim there was no time to prepare, since it has been less than a week since this storming of the Capitol happened.  But there has been close to two months from the election and some claim to have undeniable evidence.  Either the GOP Congress is a bunch of incompetent fools for not presenting or they are a bunch of liars of having undeniable evidence.
 
Maybe the US Supreme Court and others have refused cases, because there is no undeniable evidence and it is all a lie?  That seems to be more and more of what it seems to be to me.  I usually believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle, but I don't really see a middle in this.  Either there was a stolen election caused by a massive covert operation (that there would have to be enough evidence for the MAJORITY conservative US Supreme Court to entertain) or there wasn't and the side that is claiming covert operation is lying about it.
 


This is always my answer to the Qanon people I know, and it's the same here. Hey - you got proof of this awful crime? That's awesome, how can I help you present this? Can you show it to me so I can understand and help? There's never, ever proof. 

Imagine having irrefutable evidence of one of the largest crimes in US history, and just sitting on it.
Fool me once, yada yada


Dems asking for proof is hilarious. You strangled Trumps first term with false accusations. No proof. What you fail to see is while they are seeking revenge under the guise of normal everyday politics they are not getting any of the work done that we hired them to do. And they are spending your money doing it.


*Trump's only term 

Republicans had the Presidency, House and the Senate bubba. They were hired to do a lot of things, and did nothing. Surely this must be what you're referring to

Like building a wall and getting Mexico to pay for it? How'd that work out? 
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/14 13:16:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rippinlip 2021/01/14 18:55:50
Remember back when gas was over $4 a gallon and recently with energy independence it was under $2 a gallon.
 
Give it a year or two and revisit this post-----------
 
I will and I hope my dread to be proven wrong---
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/14 17:10:27 (permalink)
Some people like $4 a gallon. Some people like inflation. Some people like big government.
 
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/14 21:10:32 (permalink)
Remember when the market was going strong before the 2008 recession, gas prices were through the roof. Gas prices follow a few simple rules. Mostly supply and demand. When the World economy is strong, prices are high, when low, prices are low. Producers will manipulate prices/production if they feel they aren’t making enough or if they feel their power in the world is slipping. We are extremely far from energy independence. Our oil is only worth while producing if oil prices are at a set price or above. Trump giving huge tax cuts to big oil has a bit of an effect on gas prices, but every other reason they are low is not really a good thing right now.
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/16 12:11:57 (permalink)
The capital was told a day before about a war, what did the capital police do?  Nothing but bike racks!  This was planned on twitter and facebook days before Trump's speech.  You people have NO idea how the media and the internet are spinning their agenda.
 
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/16 12:31:19 (permalink)
Yea, got a kick outa the FBI intell report report from DAYS before with no resulting actions taken -
-BUT BUT BUT Trumps speech that day--
 
 
 
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/16 14:14:08 (permalink)
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Some people like $4 a gallon. Some people like inflation. Some people like big government.
 
BH


Some people do...lots of people where I live because high gas prices mean high oil prices and if you're a producer, tender, pipeliner, trucker, supplier then business is good.  
 
I hate em myself but some people do love em.  
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/16 14:16:32 (permalink)
It is the GOP media machine focusing on the speech. Months of “stop the steal” is what this attack was about. A rally charge speech right before it happened was the icing on the 10 layer cake.
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/16 18:20:29 (permalink)
There is no GOP media machine, our whole media is controlled by the left, tell me what you like about the leftist agenda, not what you don’t like about Trump 🤷‍♂️
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/16 18:38:45 (permalink)
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Some people like $4 a gallon. Some people like inflation. Some people like big government.
 
BH


Some people do...lots of people where I live because high gas prices mean high oil prices and if you're a producer, tender, pipeliner, trucker, supplier then business is good.  
 
I hate em myself but some people do love em.  


Are yo being serious! Do you think the truck driver or attendant is going to make any more money when prices go up? Do you not understand how fuel prices directly corelate to our economy? You do realize the demand is always going to be there, so it's the supply that affects the prices.
 
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Re: Trump... 2021/01/16 20:16:05 (permalink)
Railroads love high gas prices ....they boom big time !  .....I know 
 
I hate them too, but the rail industries soar with orders . 
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