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Re: Trump... 2020/11/18 14:52:02 (permalink)
I was wondering the same thing.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/18 15:11:17 (permalink)
Well, I’ll let you guys solve the world’s problems, maybe check back in a few years
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/18 19:10:27 (permalink)
So numbnutz lost another case lastnight in Michigan and Georgia will have their certified counts tomorrow.

If you guys have noticed, all the serious lawyers bailed out. Nothing but hacks like Guilani left.

"And Nero fiddled while Rome burned"..
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/18 19:33:01 (permalink)
I saw a USA truck flag flying upside today and it sickened me. Is that what it has really come to? Heard a stat today that 7 of 10 Republicans believe that Biden won due to voter fraud. Are you F'n serious? This man has destroyed this country and I'm not real hopeful it will ever be repaired.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/19 00:06:19 (permalink)
Can't believe there's anyone out there still foolish enough to support this orange clown. He is showing the world he's willing to destroy this country if you don't let him have his way. He's killing his own people with his childish behavior. 250,000 dead and counting. Now who should be locked up. Him or Hillary and if you say Hillary you have some serious problems
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/19 02:34:18 (permalink)
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I saw a USA truck flag flying upside today and it sickened me. Is that what it has really come to? Heard a stat today that 7 of 10 Republicans believe that Biden won due to voter fraud. Are you F'n serious? This man has destroyed this country and I'm not real hopeful it will ever be repaired.


Time heals all wounds. The country will bounce back. Remember - Trump was a symptom of a larger problem in this country. His words went into ears specifically looking for them. 
Same can be said for Biden. 

Progress is hard and it sucks. I'm just thankful the country came together to elect Biden. 
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/19 07:02:37 (permalink)
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/19 07:24:57 (permalink)
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I saw a USA truck flag flying upside today and it sickened me. Is that what it has really come to? Heard a stat today that 7 of 10 Republicans believe that Biden won due to voter fraud. Are you F'n serious? This man has destroyed this country and I'm not real hopeful it will ever be repaired.


Time heals all wounds. The country will bounce back. Remember - Trump was a symptom of a larger problem in this country. His words went into ears specifically looking for them. 
Same can be said for Biden. 

Progress is hard and it sucks. I'm just thankful the country came together to elect Biden. 


I agree, the problem is that he might stick around and keep stirring the pot, in which case only bad things happen for America.  
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/19 10:45:22 (permalink)
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I saw a USA truck flag flying upside today and it sickened me. Is that what it has really come to? Heard a stat today that 7 of 10 Republicans believe that Biden won due to voter fraud. Are you F'n serious? This man has destroyed this country and I'm not real hopeful it will ever be repaired.

Those 7 out of 10 Republicans are hearing that Trump was cheated and never got a fair shot for the past 4 years and every allegation against him is a lie.  Just as we are hearing that anything negative about Biden is a lie or doesn't pertain to him being a good President.  I primarily get my news where you get yours, so I tend to agree with your statements.  But I also see the mainstream media playing bias.  I find many of Trump's policies to be overdue (i.e. standing up to China and asking allies to pay fair share in NATO, etc.), but the media paints him and those policies that I find positive as a total failure.  Don't get me wrong, he attacked the media from the start and so full of undeniable scandals that the media wouldn't be doing their job if not reporting.  But there is a clear bias against him in the mainstream media, that has many of us hating the guy more than we likely should.  So, I understand why many could distrust the mainstream media. 
 
There are two completely different news sources out there that are telling two completely different stories on seemingly everything now.  As a country, we need to stand up to this and should be demanding it to stop, before THEY force us into a civil war.  It is baffling to me that there are very few talking about this and would rather lash out at each other over it.
 
There is always going to be policies and ideology that differ per political parties.  Heated debate over healthcare, welfare, energy, foreign policy is fine.  If there was a source that fed us the truth and not spun everything to fit their ideology, the debate would be much more healthy than it is now.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/19 15:23:28 (permalink)
Can anyone point me to the link for the studies discussed in February or March pertaining to the Covid progression/expectations models. I didn't find it on the Covid thread or trying to dig through here. I seem to recall it was mentioned numerous times and frequently changed, but was curious to go back to review it (as it stood in march) now that we are 8+ months into this mess.  I think one was through a Washington university or group, the other may have been a European model. 
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/19 17:12:25 (permalink)
I believe this is the Washington one.  I imagine that you could surf through the site to set it up to the Feb/March time frame.  It changed every few days and accounted for different CDC guidelines and new treatments.  Whether it was correct or not, it is a pretty complex model.
 
http://www.healthdata.org/covid/publications
 
Here is the Imperial College London report that is referenced.
 
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf
 
 
Worth a read.  You will see how often it is misquoted...
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/19 19:20:02 (permalink)
2 more court losses today. Jus say'IN...
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 00:47:24 (permalink)
My god Giuliani is a total embarrassment.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 02:36:18 (permalink)
He's the poster boy for mental illness. Question is besides us who's paying his 20,000.00 a dat legal fees?
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 07:29:00 (permalink)
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My god Giuliani is a total embarrassment.

The yelling scene with the brown stuff running down his face is 
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 07:38:15 (permalink)
Its been a bad reality show since the horrible day this moron came down that escalator. Why should the last days of his Presidency be any different.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 09:35:58 (permalink)
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Its been a bad reality show since the horrible day this moron came down that escalator. Why should the last days of his Presidency be any different.



Actually, quite a good show....media showed its true colors, as Pork pointed out.  True scumdog nature of the top democrats and RINO's was on full display the last 4 years....
 
President Trump did what he said he was going to do and he shook things up....and for that, I am grateful.  His words were not typical political platitudes that in the end, just ring hollow.  
 
The next 4 years will not be fun for your freedoms or your take home pay, that is, if the upcoming shut down s don't put you on the unemployment rolls.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 09:42:22 (permalink)
I strongly disagree with that Eyes. What was on display was how lies repeated over and over tried to become truth. Decency and morals went right out the window. AND a POTUS could use the office for his own gains and narcissistic pleasures. Science and medicine took a back seat to political power also. Media beat on this guy because he came out everyday and said and did unthinkable things. Saying all that, the must egregious act was how he divided us and continues to do so.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 09:46:52 (permalink)
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His words were not typical political platitudes that in the end, just ring hollow.  



You are so wrong about this.

Everything about the man is fake. From his fake spray tan to his phony populism to the pathetic display of “fighting” the results of this election that he knows he lost. It’s all for show. It’s all an act.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 09:54:49 (permalink)
I'll pray for the people who STILL SUPORT TWINKIE. If you can't see his true self and what a MORON  he truly is I feel sorry for you.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 10:53:46 (permalink)
I'll say . Taking China to task. Pressuring NATO and maybe... maybe, putting some incarceration reform in place. For me, that's it, that's the list.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 11:19:17 (permalink)
Well we will just sit back and wait and see what Joe and the progressives do for us .I pretty much knoe what the answer is after 47 years and him not ever holding a regular job that the taxpayers put him in.I think you blue Kool Aid drinkers know also its just you just hate trump.He wasn't elected to be nice and cave to the forever politicians the dems held his policies back on almost everything now the coin will be turned and ya all can whine and complain the terrible republicans are holding joe back. Just Say In
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 11:20:54 (permalink)
Jigs I pray for the people who still support baby murderers
 
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 12:16:34 (permalink)
#nouterusnoopinion
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 12:45:01 (permalink)
What do you all think Trump is gonna try to bribe these two MI republican Congressman with? Cabinet positions? Straight up pile of cash? Ivanka nudes?

Grassley, Rick Scott, and Giuliani’s kid all tested positive for corona virus too.

And oh yea, after all that bragging about Middle East “peace deals” (between countries that aren’t even in conflict) the Trump administration is jamming through a last minute $23 billion arms deal to the UAE so they can continue bombing Yemen into oblivion, and also despite the fact that there is legit concern the UAE could turn around give the military tech to their BUDDIES IN CHINA OF ALL PLACES.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 12:55:24 (permalink)
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Jigs I pray for the people who still support baby murderers
 


Do you mean Trump and Kushner’s buddies in the UAE and Saudi Arabia who killed women and children in Yemen and Libya, and committed literal genocide in Darfur? Do we give those baby murderers a pass because they are letting Trump build golf courses in Dubai?
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 13:37:50 (permalink)
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Jigs I pray for the people who still support baby murderers
 


I wouldn't worry about that too much anyways. With The Court as it stands, the first time someone takes a serious run at Roe v Wade, its probably gone.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 14:08:57 (permalink)
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Jigs I pray for the people who still support baby murderers
 


I wouldn't worry about that too much anyways. With The Court as it stands, the first time someone takes a serious run at Roe v Wade, its probably gone.

Yeah, and then abortions will just stop.  Or, they won't...they'll just be moved to non-surgical sites where women will die.  I wonder if we'll ever get back to minding our own **** business?  
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 15:02:59 (permalink)
Like I said. You have no uterus = you have no opinion. Once the Roe ruling falls, maybe the Bible thumpers can help the r@pe victim name the baby that she will be forced to carry to term. I know how about Jill Stein???
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/20 15:15:46 (permalink)
Not even the GOP stacked Supreme Court bench will completely end all abortions on this country.

What they can do is severely limit access to abortion and birth control for poor people. But the wealthy and the donor class will always have the means to take care of those little unexpected “problems” that pop up (and when you’re the kinda guy that likes to run around raw dogging porn stars, we know this can happen a lot).

The working poor are going to have the same problems they have always had: (1) no access to women’s healthcare and (2) no access to birth control. And if you unexpectedly end up pregnant then you have no choice but to carry the child to term whether you have help from the father or anybody else. And so the cycle of poverty continues.

But people like Trump, who were born into wealth, can run around knocking up any woman they want because they will always be able to pay the “secret abortion doctor” in Oklahoma, or pay for transportation to CA where access isn’t as restricted or whatever. Because when you’re rich, there are a different set of rules.
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