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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 08:37:26 (permalink)
Schumer gleefully said words to the effect - that if the Dems take the senate seats in Georgia  they can FUNDAMETALY change America.
Is that really what people were voting to do - I think not.
 
Change always takes place when the ruling party changes but not THAT.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 08:44:01 (permalink)
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Schumer gleefully said words to the effect - that if the Dems take the senate seats in Georgia  they can FUNDAMETALY change America.
Is that really what people were voting to do - I think not.
 
Change always takes place when the ruling party changes but not THAT.


I was listening to an interview with John Kasich the other night and he stated that he though the best thing that could happen would be for the GOP to retain the Senate so that Biden could "do what he does best" and negotiate with them to find middle ground.  He suspected that if that scenario plays out that the American people will benefit from a president who wants to get some things done and a GOP that will want the political points from a couple of feathers in their cap.  Interesting point.  
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 08:47:46 (permalink)
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So I see alot of discussion but none of you Trumptards answered my question. Is it ok for a President , who clearly lost the election and will more than likely fail on every lawsuit he is going to file, to call said election a hoax and refuse to step down? I'll wait.

And as far as this thread goes, as soon as he's gone it'll be gone.



Humor us. There is no state election results that are certified yet to my knowledge. You may be satisfied, and content with the way PA handled their election, but a lot of the country's citizens are not as tolerant as you of PA's corruption, or incompetence as far as elections go. But if you're calling the election for Biden, I guess we all need to go with that.


You would be correct, there has been no certification yet. To say there is widespread corruption is just parroting what the Administration and his minions are saying. As I said, if there is evidence, REAL evidence, show it. If not, get over it.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 08:51:53 (permalink)
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So I see alot of discussion but none of you Trumptards answered my question. Is it ok for a President , who clearly lost the election and will more than likely fail on every lawsuit he is going to file, to call said election a hoax and refuse to step down? I'll wait.

And as far as this thread goes, as soon as he's gone it'll be gone.




pensfan,
Stick to the gardening thread, where you can at least post with some decency.


I posted somewhat of a retraction here. I thought orangeman couldn't divide this country anymore. Boy was I wrong.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 08:52:02 (permalink)
When it comes to all getting together after an election I distinctly recall HILDABEAST quote right after the last one-
 
sooooo whats changed ????
 
"RESIST"
post edited by r3g3 - 2020/11/10 08:53:35
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 08:53:07 (permalink)
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The first confirmed case of actual voter fraud in PA.
 
https://www.wnep.com/article/news/local/luzerne-county/man-arrested-for-voter-fraud-in-luzerne-county/523-7fc4fd2f-9105-47e7-a510-2b5ff176ab2c
 
 


I mentioned this already but thanks for the link.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 09:12:11 (permalink)
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The key factor here is: Obama peacefully transitioned power. The White House went from a Democratic President, to a Republican President. Without any real incident. 




Peaceful transition my arse. Obama and the Dems used the FBI, CIA, and DOJ lawyers to investigate, and try to set up Trump before he was even in office. Then once in office try to take him down with the Mueller scam. When that didn't pan out as hoped then the impeachment nonsense. Peaceful transition? Is that like the Seattle, and Portland riots being described as mostly peaceful, as parts of the cities are looted and burned?
 
Your memory seems to be short, and selective. Im sure Obama congratulated, and patted Trump on the back, in front of the cameras for his election victory, while using taxpayer funded government resources to take him down.
 
Once again, peaceful transition my arse. Wake up junior, you're being played.


The transition was peaceful and you conflating it with a national security issue is disingenuous.   Our intelligence community 100% verified Russian interference and opened a wide ranging investigation.  Mueller left it to congress to impeach the president for obstruction because he knew a sitting president could not be indicted.  Congress wouldn't do it. 
 
Trump "victimhood" took over your mind long ago and dominated the echo chambers you reside in.  Same as it's doing here.  He's the most "put upon" man ever, just ask him.  Donald Trump is the reason Donald Trump lost this election and now he and all his followers have red @$$e$ over it...oh well. 
  
I'll tell you one thing, you might not like Joe Biden but he's not going to make this about him and that will be refreshing.  
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 09:14:18 (permalink)
Trump took on 'big pharma' in an effort to reduce drug prices-
Aint it amazing that just a couple of days AFTER the election they announce a 19 cure.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 09:39:22 (permalink)
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Trump took on 'big pharma' in an effort to reduce drug prices-
Aint it amazing that just a couple of days AFTER the election they announce a 19 cure.

Vaccine, not cure. Unless I missed something?

It was very well covered by ALL media that these vaccines were on a good path. This is just adding to that path. Hopefully pushing up when they can distribute to the front line workers. Still looking at early next year at the earliest for the masses. Not sure if this news would change any minds, even if it came out weeks ago.

This news was a panel of independent experts verifying what the companies were claiming. Since when does either side of the political spectrum need experts to verify claims???
post edited by Porktown - 2020/11/10 09:41:43
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 10:06:52 (permalink)
Your right- politics has invaded everything.
I know its a vaccine and not an actual cure but at 73 with issues I'll take it,
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 10:13:33 (permalink)
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Your right- politics has invaded everything.
I know its a vaccine and not an actual cure but at 73 with issues I'll take it,


Being 45 without issues (besides possible mental), I'll take it too!  My parents and wife's parents are in the same boat as you.  This year has been a challenge to keep distance from them.  I'll be first in line when my age group or however they are doing the vaccine distribution is.  States keep adding other states to the travel advisories which isn't helping me with work either.  Not that I am a fan of travelling in the winter though...
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 10:21:18 (permalink)
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Your right- politics has invaded everything.
I know its a vaccine and not an actual cure but at 73 with issues I'll take it,


Being 45 without issues (besides possible mental), I'll take it too!  My parents and wife's parents are in the same boat as you.  This year has been a challenge to keep distance from them.  I'll be first in line when my age group or however they are doing the vaccine distribution is.  States keep adding other states to the travel advisories which isn't helping me with work either.  Not that I am a fan of travelling in the winter though...


60 Minutes had a great piece on Sunday evening about the General who was tapped by Trump to head up the distribution.  You can probably find it if you're interested in the roll out.  It's one thing to get a vaccine that must be kept at -70 and it's another to make sure everyone who gets it has a booster 21 days after.  The logistics are mind boggling but we can do it.  
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 10:24:48 (permalink)
I only hope that the dispersion methodology that has already been put in place under Trump isnt torn apart and redone at the last ,minute just because it was Trumps-
Wouldnt surprise me if that happens.
Last thing we seniors need is political caos right now in so serious of an issue.
 
Caos IMHO is gonna be the rule of the day for a while but PLEASE not on this.
post edited by r3g3 - 2020/11/10 10:27:14
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 11:23:36 (permalink)
Electoral college sweepstakes Update: Biden is sitting on 279 votes according to most sources. This, incidentally, is the precise guess of Porktown. It looks like Arizona (11) and Georgia (16) have yet to be determined - with apologies to those outlets that have already called AZ for Joe. My War has guessed 319. So, if both states fall for Biden, MW wins. If only one of those states - either one - goes to Biden, then Pork wins.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 11:27:30 (permalink)
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When it comes to all getting together after an election I distinctly recall HILDABEAST quote right after the last one-
 
sooooo whats changed ????
 
"RESIST"


Hillary Clinton conceded when it was clear that she lost. Her campaign didn’t sue the states that she lost, Democrats accepted the results and moved on to the next electoral fight.

Did Democrats use Trumps victory to motivate and organize voters for future elections? Absolutely yes. Just like republicans did after Obama won election in 2008.

How did Democrats fight? They won elections. Just like the republicans did in 2010, first they took the House, and just like the republicans did to Bill Clinton, they investigated the shiit out of Trump, and then they impeached him. And Trump was an easy target for this because he is a scandal machine (not entirely unlike the Clintons).

However none of the things that Democrats did were without precedent, or outside the bounds of US law. What Trump is doing now is WAY beyond that. It is illegal, it is unethical, it is a brazen abuse of power and I’m starting to come around to the idea that maybe Democrats need to break precedent as well and throw him in jail. Because his behavior is dangerous.

“Fundamentally change America” my @ss. You don’t think a refusal to accept the results of an election is a fundamental change in what the country is built on?
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 12:25:50 (permalink)
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Electoral college sweepstakes Update: Biden is sitting on 279 votes according to most sources. This, incidentally, is the precise guess of Porktown. It looks like Arizona (11) and Georgia (16) have yet to be determined - with apologies to those outlets that have already called AZ for Joe. My War has guessed 319. So, if both states fall for Biden, MW wins. If only one of those states - either one - goes to Biden, then Pork wins.

Cue Pork with the "STOP THE COUNT" rhetoric!!
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 12:29:50 (permalink)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1325951831667699712

^  Beautiful. The hypocrisy is astounding. 
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 13:01:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby crappiefisher 2020/11/10 14:27:35
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Cue Pork with the "STOP THE COUNT" rhetoric!!

I am just looking for us all to get along.  Lets stop the divide on this forum.  I have done enough winning.  So much winning.  In fact, some might say that is all that I do, win, win, hold on a second, yep, another win.  But, I am looking to get past all of the winning and get this forum to where it was.  Back when it was great.  Back to a time when I was winning of course, but this forum was winning.  With that, I accept My War's concession, and accept the win of this contest.  First and foremost, I would like to thank myself, for being such a good winner, strong, handsome, and just an all around good guy.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 13:09:55 (permalink)
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Anyone heard from Been? If you're around buddy and reading this, I hope all is well with you. 


Logged off 7 days ago, hasn't been back.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 18:12:46 (permalink)
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With that, I accept My War's concession, and accept the win of this contest. 


I WON THIS CONTEST, BY ALOT!
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 19:14:34 (permalink)
Don’t be ridiculous. A lot is two words.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 19:38:59 (permalink)
One America news has just call North Carolina for Trump. Senator Tillis also won re-election.

It is better to have loved and lost than to live with a psycho for the rest of your life.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/10 20:42:16 (permalink)
Looks like we have a Trump loyalist up there in Erie fabricating evidence. Where theirs smoke there's usually fire. There going to be more no doubt 
 
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/11 08:43:13 (permalink)
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The first confirmed case of actual voter fraud in PA.
 
https://www.wnep.com/article/news/local/luzerne-county/man-arrested-for-voter-fraud-in-luzerne-county/523-7fc4fd2f-9105-47e7-a510-2b5ff176ab2c
 

Pennsylvania’s Lieutenant Governor mocked Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick on social media Tuesday after Patrick announced he’d pay up to $1 million for anyone who presents proof of voter fraud anywhere in the country.
Pennsylvania’s John Fetterman, a Democrat, jokingly tried to claim the reward and took a shot at the Dallas Cowboys in the process.
“Hey, Governor Patrick — it’s your counterpart in Pennsylvania,” Fetterman posted on Twitter. “I’d like to collect your handsome reward for reporting voter fraud. I got a dude in Forty Fort, PA who tried to have his dead mom vote for Trump. I’d like mine in Sheetz gift cards pls. ps. The Cowboys blow.”
 
https://www.star-telegram.../article247113322.html
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/11 09:27:02 (permalink)
Get a kick outa the dem press quoting dem election poll supervisors saying all was legit in their places.
Of course they are gonna say that---
Imagine a roofer standing back with ya looking at the new roof he put on your house and he says " well that looks like  a lousy job".
 
Wait till the arguing is over - then move on---
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/11 10:05:12 (permalink)
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Get a kick outa the dem press quoting dem election poll supervisors saying all was legit in their places.
Of course they are gonna say that---
Imagine a roofer standing back with ya looking at the new roof he put on your house and he says " well that looks like  a lousy job".
 
Wait till the arguing is over - then move on---


Do you get a kick out of the Republican poll supervisors saying the same?
 
I get a kick out of the Dentist that hasn't seen the roofer's work, and claims it is a "lousy job".
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/11 14:42:52 (permalink)
When ya wonder why Republicans dont trust Libs--
Latest dirty trick---
 
Dems are now encouraging Dems to temporarily- on the short term -  move To Georgia so they can vote in the Senate run offs.
If that aint dancing around voter fraud what is ???
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/11 15:07:47 (permalink)
Did that info come from a media outlet? If so please post a link. Sounds like some FB BS to me tho. I would stand corrected if you could provide a link.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/11 15:34:01 (permalink)
CNN interview with some pundant named Friedman.
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