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Re: Trump... 2020/10/30 11:59:50 (permalink)
Pork, we talked about Trump signs in Jefferson Hills awhile back.  I was wrong, the couple streets I go down in the plan directly across from Jefferson Elementary school (and not far from the new high school) had absolutely ZERO Biden signs to probably a dozen Trump signs and back the blue signs, etc....That plan is upper tier so I am sure it skews right.  There were a few Biden signs buried amongst the 2 dozen signs in front of the school out on the main road but not in the plan itself.
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Re: Trump... 2020/10/30 13:16:53 (permalink)
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Like him or not.... Trump is Pelosi's nemesis.

This is completely true and one of the things that I do like about Trump.  But this election is not about reigning in Pelosi, the House and Senate will do that.  It is also about restoring decency into politics.  Say what you want about the Biden family, I'm not listening any further until Trump's appointed US Attorneys say there is something to listen to.  I'm done listening to the Deep State nonsense until the US Attorneys say there is something to listen to. 
 
Trump has been a rude, dishonest, self indulged old man child since he entered politics.  His rudeness and talking like a moron were funny for a while, but beyond old at this point.  We cannot have that be a norm.  We can't have "politicians" trying to out do him in this.  If someone else with similar policies runs while acting like a grown adult, then I will probably support.  The older I become, the more conservative I am and the more far left the Democratic platform becomes.  Many like me in Generation X are prime to be the next conservative majority, there are a good bit of us from the offspring of the baby boomers, many of us are getting to the top of of our professions and many are making their way into politics. 
 
This election is about showing the Republican party that we can't accept this moronic behavior any longer and it can't be something others can mimic for success.


I somewhat agree with you pork trump ia an ARSE hole But we really don't have much of a choice do we. Another election were you have to hold your nose.Joe isn't really going to be the one running things if he wins you know that.The left wing mob will be doing the dictating joe is just the figure to get them in. Their goofy policies are down right nuts.You can't possibly want their left fringe policies for yourself ,your children and grandkids.Decency yes but a socialist agent not for me.


Pork makes a good point. A factor about Trump that can't be ignored for a lot of voters is his abrasiveness and general ahole mentality. There is no more "reaching across the aisle" in politics, and from what I can see, it takes more effort than we'd all like to admit to even do this to eachother. Trump has created and cultivated an "Us vs Them" mentality in almost all aspects of life in the US. This is not healthy for the country, I think we can all agree on that. America is at its weakest when divided like we are. 
 
Trumps "Fake News" and just the general age of misinformation is really taking a toll on us (along with Covid). For example, @Ice, you mention "Joe isn't really going to be the one running things if he wins you know that." Do you have any basis for this? What information have you seen and where did you get it, that would lead you to this opinion? (I ask this in good faith, and it has no motives aside from understanding your perspective. I leave this disclaimer because often times when questions are asked here, people take them as attacks.) You say this to Pork as if it's a fact, without question. Is it really? Can we tangibly verify this? 

I think we know, all politicians in general have some sway exerted over them, likely by lobbyists. Every single one of them has skeletons in their closets, without question. Biden isn't my first choice. Out of the Candidates, he's among my 3rd or 4th. But Trump? I'd sooner vote for OJ Simpson. 
 
When you say a "socialist agenda" - what are some things you'd be opposed to living under? Do you mean socialized healthcare or stipends for folks to live on, or are you referring to a complete socialist system, like the Soviet Union? 
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Re: Trump... 2020/10/30 13:37:33 (permalink)
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I somewhat agree with you pork trump ia an ARSE hole But we really don't have much of a choice do we. Another election were you have to hold your nose.Joe isn't really going to be the one running things if he wins you know that.The left wing mob will be doing the dictating joe is just the figure to get them in. Their goofy policies are down right nuts.You can't possibly want their left fringe policies for yourself ,your children and grandkids.Decency yes but a socialist agent not for me.


I am the least bit worried about Joe turning into a socialist.  The right media is doing their best to paint him as one or losing his mind or not running things.  His interviews and debate are far from him losing his mind and his record is far from socialist.  Any time he is questioned about the far left, he shoots down their agenda.  The idea of the 25th amendment is laughable at best, unless he has a real health crisis (he isn't young).  This election will be close regardless of who wins and will be decided by the independents.  Does anyone really think the Democrats are going to boot the guy that won the election and basically hand over the next election to the Republicans?
 
I agree with him on needing to transition into the future with energy.  The market does too.  Even with Trump taking away any incentive for electric cars, the companies are ramping up the production and infrastructure for them.  They know they are the future.  We would all be fools to think fossil fuels will go away, something needs to power the plants for the electric vehicles.  With how many more cars are in China and India with their middle class growing, we need to figure out a way to keep fossil fuels from running out or being too expensive for the average person to have.  Like you mentioned about children and grandchildren, we can't possibly think the path we are on is a good one for them.  Both in the excessive use and pollution we are causing.  The technology is there, but cuts into profits, which is a no, no to our current administration.  
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Re: Trump... 2020/10/30 13:42:06 (permalink)
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Pork, we talked about Trump signs in Jefferson Hills awhile back.  I was wrong, the couple streets I go down in the plan directly across from Jefferson Elementary school (and not far from the new high school) had absolutely ZERO Biden signs to probably a dozen Trump signs and back the blue signs, etc....That plan is upper tier so I am sure it skews right.  There were a few Biden signs buried amongst the 2 dozen signs in front of the school out on the main road but not in the plan itself.


I don't travel that far from civilization much.  Take a stroll through Pleasant Hills and the parts of Jefferson Hills that are adjacent.  Baldwin, South Park, Bethel Park and other communities similar.  You will see exactly what I noted.  You know, the type of community that has 2-3 houses (voters) per the one in the plan you noted.  That plan is filled with pretentiouspricks.  
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Re: Trump... 2020/10/30 14:21:40 (permalink)
All good points.

As for Trump being a divider, Gator I would recommend going alllll the way back to the first few pages of this thread when discussion of the candidates first began. I think there, being the open minded person you appear to be, you will see quite a division based on political party. There should be no doubt in ones mind, those supporting Trump were immediately branded as republican.

That, in my book, is where Trump made his worst mistake. IMHO had Trump ran on the Democrat ticket, his worst problem would have been Pelosi trying to keep him under her thumb, much the same, Pelosi and Harry Reid controlled past Presidents.

Please don't tell me Pelosi & Reid did not have at their disposal, the very same tactics, we all witnessed the past four years. The difference being, this time we have a President that didn't coward & run. In fact, Trump is just the opposite in that, Trump stirs the mud.

That being said, replace Pelosi & Reid with anti-America journalist and tv networks, all of which continue trying to destroy Trump. No need to mention, the harder they try the harder they fail and they can not deal with it.

For me, those accusing Trump of being s ”divider” is a sign those folks live in denial or just enjoy busting balz.

While I might agree Trump's shenanigan's get old because I pay attention daily to politics, most of the general public does not and therefore Trump fires folks up with his remarks.

I might also mention, from my observance, Trump enjoys busting balz too.

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Re: Trump... 2020/10/30 14:59:23 (permalink)
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All good points.

As for Trump being a divider, Gator I would recommend going alllll the way back to the first few pages of this thread when discussion of the candidates first began. I think there, being the open minded person you appear to be, you will see quite a division based on political party. There should be no doubt in ones mind, those supporting Trump were immediately branded as republican.

That, in my book, is where Trump made his worst mistake. IMHO had Trump ran on the Democrat ticket, his worst problem would have been Pelosi trying to keep him under her thumb, much the same, Pelosi and Harry Reid controlled past Presidents.

Please don't tell me Pelosi & Reid did not have at their disposal, the very same tactics, we all witnessed the past four years. The difference being, this time we have a President that didn't coward & run. In fact, Trump is just the opposite in that, Trump stirs the mud.

That being said, replace Pelosi & Reid with anti-America journalist and tv networks, all of which continue trying to destroy Trump. No need to mention, the harder they try the harder they fail and they can not deal with it.

For me, those accusing Trump of being s ”divider” is a sign those folks live in denial or just enjoy busting balz.

While I might agree Trump's shenanigan's get old because I pay attention daily to politics, most of the general public does not and therefore Trump fires folks up with his remarks.

I might also mention, from my observance, Trump enjoys busting balz too.



That's a fair point Been. There is/was an existing division for sure. Republican/Democrat have always been divided, usually in their corners, so you are correct on that. The ability to be different, have different views, yet still come together for the good of all Americans is a great thing. I feel that is essentially out the window now. Like I said earlier, there's no reaching across the aisle. Look at the Senate, in a time where so many Americans need financial help, so badly, they can't come to an agreement on a **** thing, and the public is paying for it.
 
Trump 4 years ago, was such a polarizing figure to bust on the scene, I'd imagine that alone made an imaginary little gas gauge started to tilt a bit in the "Divide" part. I know it did to a lot of the circles in my life. I could feel it in my everyday relationships and interactions. Each day since, I feel that gauge has continued to move, and we're probably at the most divided as a populous and a country as I have seen. (you older guys might know better - was it like this in the 60's with the war? With the civil rights movement?) 
 
His rhetoric is undeniable when it comes to fueling this divide though. (At least to me) Constant, nonstop attacks on the "blue states", be it their governors, their mayors, their senators, (As well as any red politician who might disagree publicly with him.) Attacking science, scientists, doctors, military personnel, etc. Threats to withhold federal funding, or assistance in the case of an emergency. It's just been nonstop, and I feel it's led to a lot of people near the center, politically, to have to pick sides. Those sides aren't just who you vote for a few times a year anymore - they're becoming entire ideologies, and you're either with it, or against it.

It pours over into our everyday lives. We're seeing news stories about neighbors and families who "co-exist" despite their political differences. That never used to happen, it was just life. The media is to blame for part of this for sure, but their content - the quotes, the video clips, the tweets, etc. They all come from somewhere. 



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Re: Trump... 2020/10/30 16:08:41 (permalink)
****, I must have fallen out of bed again! This forum starting to make sense and people being civil to each other. We ain't in Kansas  anymore Toto!
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Re: Trump... 2020/10/30 17:14:26 (permalink)
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I agree with him on needing to transition into the future with energy.  The market does too.  Even with Trump taking away any incentive for electric cars, the companies are ramping up the production and infrastructure for them.  They know they are the future.  We would all be fools to think fossil fuels will go away, something needs to power the plants for the electric vehicles.  With how many more cars are in China and India with their middle class growing, we need to figure out a way to keep fossil fuels from running out or being too expensive for the average person to have.  Like you mentioned about children and grandchildren, we can't possibly think the path we are on is a good one for them.   


So I’m curious, what you said is here is pretty much in line with current, center-left Democrat energy policy .... I’m also pretty sure that in the past I’ve seen you defend single payer healthcare systems (or that you see the benefit of them, something to that effect)... you seem to have a nuanced view of policing and criminal justice issues to the point of favoring some reforms (ok with legal pot too I think?)... you don’t seem like a big roe v wade guy, nor do you seem religious... you seem to have a rational and realistic view of the public health crisis we are currently facing... You seem to have a negative view of money in politics ...

But yet you described yourself as a part of the next conservative majority, so what am I missing? What views do you hold that you feel are “conservative”? And what are the “far left” parts of the Democrat’s platform that are turning you off?
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Re: Trump... 2020/10/30 18:23:42 (permalink)
Gator, I'm not disagreeing with ”being civil” but the problem I see, being civil never got anybody anywhere when it comes to Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid.

In the world of power, nice guys finish last.

As for Trump being a blowhard, welp that depends on who ya talk to. To the thousands attending his rallies and the millions who will vote for him, they hear something different. They accept Trump for the message he delivers.

For folks like you and me who have listened to the same rhetoric over and over again.... enough of the blowhard stuff. Our differences, how we see his message.

I do 'not' think Trump is responsible for any division in our country. However, I do think the news media is responsible and always has been a key player, in keeping America divided. It is the media who spews hate and discontent toward anyone who gets in their way.

Again, going back to the beginning of this thread, and I believe even more so now, I said Trump will have to control the news media.

As for getting money to those in need, due to the pandemic, I can not hold Trump responsible as it is fact, it takes two to tango. I've also heard about the extra ”pork” (no offense pork 🤭) Nancy Pelosi fattened her stimulus bill with, yet Pelosi is the one who goes on vacation or refuses cooperation in getting the money to those in need. Some folks say Pelosi has the cooperation of her democrat colleagues. I say Pelosi has them by their ”short hairs” and her ”colleagues” fear the loss of their political careers. After all, Adam Schiff merely need leak some juicy gossip and the media sharks (with Pelosi's blessing) will destroy the person. Ask Al Franken about the media sharks, when they go into a feeding frenzy. The bottom line, do not piz Nancy off...... unless your name is Donald J Trump.

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Re: Trump... 2020/10/30 18:42:00 (permalink)
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****, I must have fallen out of bed again! This forum starting to make sense and people being civil to each other. We ain't in Kansas  anymore Toto!


That's cause the kids are all tucked away in their basements with visions of pumpkins dancing in their stupid heads.🎃 I heard they was told, if they were good, the ”big guy” will bring them candy and it's free... free, free. Just pay shipping and a separate tax.
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Re: Trump... 2020/10/31 08:46:39 (permalink)
Some chyts & giggles to sweetin sum yinz 'mourning' coffee.

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All y'all enjoy yinz weekend..... winter's coming.

1 to 3 inches of snow Sunday night for muup north in Erie town, time for me to bug out, it's a new beginning.


BTW Any y'all know, where ”does” the white go, when the snow melts?🤔

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Re: Trump... 2020/10/31 11:11:41 (permalink)
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So I’m curious, what you said is here is pretty much in line with current, center-left Democrat energy policy .... I’m also pretty sure that in the past I’ve seen you defend single payer healthcare systems (or that you see the benefit of them, something to that effect)... you seem to have a nuanced view of policing and criminal justice issues to the point of favoring some reforms (ok with legal pot too I think?)... you don’t seem like a big roe v wade guy, nor do you seem religious... you seem to have a rational and realistic view of the public health crisis we are currently facing... You seem to have a negative view of money in politics ...

But yet you described yourself as a part of the next conservative majority, so what am I missing? What views do you hold that you feel are “conservative”? And what are the “far left” parts of the Democrat’s platform that are turning you off?


My thoughts on the Dem party, for the most part, they are all talk and no action. Some of the ideas, I at least partially agree with, just as I do with the Rep party platform. Any time there is a full Dem house and Pres, they don’t get any of the ideas that I feel are most concerning addressed. The last time around, they handed a win to the insurance companies with Obamacare. They don’t actually address getting money out of politics. The Dems have set records this cycle in the outside money. Granted, Trump gets it for free with press coverage and doesn’t need to spend as much. That is still money from big business, Wall St and others that most likely will have a say in actual policy. All talk on what I feel is the biggest issue with both parties. The Republicans at least don’t lie to us that they are against it.

I see good in many Democratic policies, but most are either too expensive on the backs of tax payers to really be good in actuality. I also see good in many Republican policies although some I find completely dumbfounded. Like the current pandemic response, but I don’t equate Trump’s complete ineptitude to be that of all conservatives.

I have been in the workforce since I was 10, delivering the PGH Press after school. Once I hit 16, I have worked at least part time, often multiple jobs. Maybe a few months between jobs during college, but worked through most of college too. Full time for the last 22 years. I pay a lot in taxes already, I have good healthcare and other good benefits that are part of either my or my wife’s benefits. I don’t really feel that I should be paying more for others. I would not be completely opposed to a consumption tax, although I do realize that our current progressive tax structure taxes wealth that would not tax if moving in that direction. It really wasn’t all that hard to get where I am. I know many much more successful than myself that took more risks and got a few more breaks. To not be at the level that I am, I sort of feel you need to be rather lazy or have made some really bad choices. I shouldn’t have to pay more for that. Don’t get me wrong, that isn’t everyone. There are some that have health issues or other issues. We have Medicaid and other safety nets for those people already, which I feel are already being abused by some. Would I like to see reform in some of those programs that maybe include some more able bodied working people and cut out the Abel’s body nonworking people, yes. And actually something that Trump has done and I support.

I do see the issue with the income inequality of the ultra rich vs the average person. But it doesn’t seem that our government is able to do anything about it. The Dems talk about it, but never do anything about it. I am to the point of just living with it.

The hot topic of abortion, I am middle of the road, which I am in many topics. I am not far right or far left. I don’t think it should be banned altogether, but I have no issues with more restrictions on later term and the use of it as contraception. I thank God every night for what I have and pray for those that I know are in need of real help. I completely avoid praying for small things and do much more thanking for what I have been given. I am very religious in my own way. I am also very pro law enforcement. If there was one thing that might get me to vote Trump, this would be it. I do feel there is still racial inequality in this country, but most incidents that are sparking protests, I side with the police response. If one does not commit a crime and does not resist arrest, then many of these situations don’t happen. I do my best to look at all facts and separate each incident. Some are definitely the police at fault, which even the most conservative on here agree. But most are not. Yet protests that many times result in riots and looting result. I agree with most of the far right conservatives on this issue. The reforms that many speak of (social workers to assist in domestic calls) are already a program that has been around for years locally, according to my cop friends.

The way the far left is having more say in the Democratic Party is not moving the direction that I want. I have kids that would likely benefit from tax payer funded college. But not every kid should be in college. I was there and saw many just partying and playing video games. They racked up a bunch of debt and found out how bad of a choice they made. I almost fell in that hole, but woke up and righted my ship. Could some tax payer help make some colleges a bit less expensive, I wouldn’t have an issue. I have noted how I would personally do this in more money in majors that we as a society need.

I don’t see myself as a liberal or conservative, but every year, I find myself being more and more conservative. I would definitely support a moderate Republican over a left Democrat, unless they followed the pompous fool model in the White House currently. Beyond being a fool, I like many of his policies.
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Re: Trump... 2020/10/31 13:02:02 (permalink)
Pelosi-Schumer- the Squad with AOC- Bernie- Schiff -Nadler etc etc
If you hope for these 'leaders' vote for mumbles
 
If not-- vote  for America.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/01 19:51:22 (permalink)
Soooo the FBI is gonna investigate the drivers who bothered the Biden bus on the highway---
Same FBI thats been holding the Biden computer for a year with no action ????
 
 
Durham -- Durham - has anyone seen Durham ???
 
Negative  Trump 'stories' in the news are reaching fever pitch= must be all scardey cat.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/02 20:19:49 (permalink)
Hear Ye! Hear Ye!

It’s time for the first, and probably only, FishUSA presidential election Electoral College Sweepstakes.

To participate, all you have to do is pick a winner and guesstimate the number of electoral college votes that candidate will receive. For example, Trump - 538 Biden - 0

The person coming closest to the actual number of electoral votes received by the winner shall win a fabulous prize package, consisting of, oh, let’s say a selection of hand-tied steelhead flies, providing, of course, that you’re willing to provide me with an actual mailing address!

To assist in your guesstimates, I’m attaching an online vote counter tool. There are several of these available online. “Closest to the pin” rules shall apply; as opposed to Price is Right rules. Don’t worry, I know what it means.

https://www.270towin.com/

To start things off, my guess is: Biden - 365; Trump - 173
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/02 20:32:00 (permalink)
Biden 279
Trump 259

Biden wins popular vote by over 4M.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/02 20:32:32 (permalink)
Trump- 281
Biden- 257
 
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/02 21:44:27 (permalink)
Biden - 319
Trump - 219
Biden flips the rust belt plus FL and AZ. Its over when FL gets called on election night.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/03 06:02:01 (permalink)
T-259
B-247

Nothing is Free!!
Reward equals Effort


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Re: Trump... 2020/11/03 06:22:12 (permalink)
Amy Barrett calls the winner a week after the election.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/03 09:03:49 (permalink)
It will be very close and undecided for many weeks via lawsuits eventually running out of time where it is sent to the House for resolution and Pelosi is elected President.
 
In the meantime the Socialists will burn and loot Cities across the nation leading to an ammunition shortage unlike any we have ever seen.
 
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/03 09:16:04 (permalink)
No senate predictions?
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/03 09:22:11 (permalink)
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It will be very close and undecided for many weeks via lawsuits eventually running out of time where it is sent to the House for resolution and Pelosi is elected President.
 
In the meantime the Socialists will burn and loot Cities across the nation leading to an ammunition shortage unlike any we have ever seen.


Hello sunshine!
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/03 09:27:26 (permalink)
Biden - 275
Trump- 263
 
 
 
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/03 09:56:19 (permalink)
EVICTION NOTICES BEING PRINTED AS WE SPEAK!
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/03 10:08:14 (permalink)
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It will be very close and undecided for many weeks via lawsuits eventually running out of time where it is sent to the House for resolution and Pelosi is elected President.
 
In the meantime the Socialists will burn and loot Cities across the nation leading to an ammunition shortage unlike any we have ever seen.
 
THANKS FOR THE STEEL FLIES

Orrr...._It will be called at 11:05 ET tonight.
NO FLIES FOR YOU!! Yet. You have to make a pick.
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/03 10:08:19 (permalink)
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Hear Ye! Hear Ye!

It’s time for the first, and probably only, FishUSA presidential election Electoral College Sweepstakes.

To participate, all you have to do is pick a winner and guesstimate the number of electoral college votes that candidate will receive. For example, Trump - 538 Biden - 0

The person coming closest to the actual number of electoral votes received by the winner shall win a fabulous prize package, consisting of, oh, let’s say a selection of hand-tied steelhead flies, providing, of course, that you’re willing to provide me with an actual mailing address!

To assist in your guesstimates, I’m attaching an online vote counter tool. There are several of these available online. “Closest to the pin” rules shall apply; as opposed to Price is Right rules. Don’t worry, I know what it means.

https://www.270towin.com/

To start things off, my guess is: Biden - 365; Trump - 173

Trump 324
Joe gets the rest

"The cause of freedom is not the cause of race or a sect, a party or a class-it is the cause of human kind, the very birthright of humanity."Quote by Anna Julia Cooper.
 
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/03 10:21:20 (permalink)
U.S. HOUSE of REPRESENTATIVES

GOP-232.......Swampcrats-197


U.S. SENATE

GOP-55 ........... Swampcrats-45

WHITE HOUSE

GOP ......... By-a-landslide. 🤗

Give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you will feed him for a life time. ~Anne Isabella Thackeray Ritchie (1837–1919)~
 
 
 
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Re: Trump... 2020/11/03 10:33:13 (permalink)
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EVICTION NOTICES BEING PRINTED AS WE SPEAK!


Don'cha just hate that stupid spellcheck.

”Conviction” notices being printed as we speak..... Biden family and other Swampcrats be hiring burbots like lawyers are going out of style. Swampcrat burbots be needing jobs as soon as they can no longer delay Trump being rightfully elected POTUS for ”four more years” 🤗


Trump/Pence/House/Senate 2020

I know these things. 🤭

Give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you will feed him for a life time. ~Anne Isabella Thackeray Ritchie (1837–1919)~
 
 
 
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