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Re: Trump... 2020/07/02 17:21:53 (permalink)
Most of us not brain dead folks on this forum do know one thing MyWar you are a complete idiot.You blame everything on trump and who ever supports him never once putting any blame on your comrades(democrats)(protesters) and the worthless congress that have been in office for decades and havn't done a darn thing!! Its all trump's fault. Your ilk if god forbid takes over in January will be faced with the same problems and they won't do any better of a job solving them it will be same old same old,and they will blame the the previous administration like they always do.The Chinese virus is doing in every country all over the world its not just US and the leaders there are doing no better then ours in stopping the virus. Lockdowns,midigations,Masks,quarintines will not stop it,only when a effective safe vaccine is available to all. If you think sleepy joe biden and kamoola are going to stop all this crap you really are an idiot!!!!!
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/02 17:39:43 (permalink)
Hey ice nut, did you ever answer my question about all of those violent anti abortion protesters that destroyed private property and killed nurses and cops?
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/02 18:25:14 (permalink)
The proverbial poop is hitting the fan.
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/02 18:44:10 (permalink)
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The Democrat party is by far the greatest threat to this country, and it's people than any foreign power or entity.

And I think that this type of thinking is the biggest danger to our country. About half of the nation (registered democrats) are the biggest danger to the country? Does this mean you work, live, contact this ENEMY every day? Must be tough to get anything done seeing half of America as its greatest enemy. What about the political spectrum? Isn’t it possible that people who register for one party or another, but are basically in the center, actually have more in common with each other than with those at extreme ends of their party? I do. When did politics become a f-in religion? This country is a balance, it always has been. It always will be...at least until we destroy it.

Jo Jorgensen 2020!!! 😎
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/02 19:28:14 (permalink)
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The proverbial poop is hitting the fan.

Speaking of such things, the case against Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein’s accomplice, is being run from the public corruption unit in the SDNY. That would not be happening unless there was a public official “involvement” of some sort. I can think of a few.

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Re: Trump... 2020/07/02 20:57:33 (permalink)
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The Democrat party is by far the greatest threat to this country, and it's people than any foreign power or entity.

And I think that this type of thinking is the biggest danger to our country. About half of the nation (registered democrats) are the biggest danger to the country? 



Wrong again, LDD. The Democrat party can simply be divided into two separate groups. All of the leaders and elected officials, along with the individual radicals throughout America, and the Sheeple, who follow along blindly and vote Democrat 'cause their parents and grand parents and great grand parents, (and on & on), always voted that way. There are no moderates in the Democrat party any more. The Party ain't your father's Oldsmobile anymore. It's been hi-jacked by the Socialists and they ain't givin' it up. Why is it that every major city that has been run by Democrats for the past 50 or more years are bankrupt; morally, financially, and politically? 'Cause they're idiots with all the wrong ideas. They never believe that their ideas have been proven wrong time and again, they only believe they need more control and money to make it work.
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/02 21:41:16 (permalink)
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The proverbial poop is hitting the fan.



Why, what happened, did you poop your panties over the bogus Russian Bounty story? 😣

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Re: Trump... 2020/07/02 21:56:02 (permalink)
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Now that there is funny, I don't care who all y'all are.

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Re: Trump... 2020/07/02 23:06:54 (permalink)
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Jo Jorgensen 2020!!! 😎


Ya know I get the feeling that we would agree on a lot more than we would disagree on, but this third party stuff, really? Why bother voting at all?

These parties have no real plans to actually win elections. You can’t just run a half hearted attempt at a national election every four years and expect people to take you seriously. Where is the libertarian or green running for the US house district you live in? Or state senate?

It’s a two party system. Pretending that there is a third option is like pretending the corona virus will just magically disappear on its own. Even the two most radical elements in politics today (trump and Bernie sanders) could see that the only way to make a difference is to align with one of the two major parties.
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/02 23:06:56 (permalink)
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The proverbial poop is hitting the fan.



Why, what happened, did you poop your panties over the bogus Russian Bounty story? 😣

Pretty massive tragedy happening in our country right now which has been worsened by a complete lack of leadership from the federal level. A response should have been nationalized months ago and coordinated with states. We are paying a huge, unnecessary price. 🍊 is in way over his head. Glad you asked.
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/02 23:35:57 (permalink)
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Jo Jorgensen 2020!!! 😎


Ya know I get the feeling that we would agree on a lot more than we would disagree on, but this third party stuff, really? Why bother voting at all?

These parties have no real plans to actually win elections. You can’t just run a half hearted attempt at a national election every four years and expect people to take you seriously. Where is the libertarian or green running for the US house district you live in? Or state senate?

It’s a two party system. Pretending that there is a third option is like pretending the corona virus will just magically disappear on its own. Even the two most radical elements in politics today (trump and Bernie sanders) could see that the only way to make a difference is to align with one of the two major parties.

It’s basically a joke. I see the two parties as parodies at this point who are completely consumed by their own power structures. Third parties are irrelevant and my vote for any of the 3, by itself, is irrelevant. When it is combined with a massive political movement (dem/repub) it becomes valid, but only to the movement, not to me, because I’m fed up with their bull$hit. When I vote for a third party it becomes irrelevant statistically (no chance in hell of winning) but highly important to me personally because it goes against these two parties and their self-centered power struggle.

Voting for president in our current two party system is essentially an individual act of symbolism, that’s all. I’m less cynical about local/state elections.


Gary Johnson 2020!!! (Cause why the hell not?)
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 01:18:36 (permalink)
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(1) Man made global warming is the debatable part. 

(2) At want point does living turn into just surviving. At what point do the living start envying the dead?

(3) I spent months trying to get a physical exam in CA. Government guidelines prevented the healthcare I paid for from being available to me. I was told for years that healthcare was a right. I guess it's only a right when they say so. I really don't want any level of government involved in the healthcare that I pay for, either directly or indirectly. 

(4) Why did you feel you needed to add "pretty much every" to the question. Reword your question to something less ridiculous.

(5) Over regulation and redundancy can be a problem, but no somethings need to be regulated. 

(6) Unions have had their place, and still do.  Just like people, some unions=bad, some unions=good. If you ran a company that employed a thousand people, would you negotiate wages and benefit with each employee individually every year?

(7) That not worth responding to.



Pretty boilerplate conservative stuff here. I’m not seeing anything that suggests my use of the term “right wing” is unfair or inaccurate.



Okay now let's define you, and I don't need you to response to any questions.
 
Appears to be a far left wing kook, who regurgitates left wing boilerplate views and topics.
 
Once you get so far left, even Mother Teresa becomes right wing.
 
How did I do? 




 
My dude, you know absolutely nothing about me.




So, your posts tell me nothing about who you are? Or does that only work for you?
 
Did anyone ever mention to you that you seem to have different rules and  standards for other people than you have for yourself?
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 01:26:51 (permalink)
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The Democrat party is by far the greatest threat to this country, and it's people than any foreign power or entity.




What kind of alternate reality must you be living in to believe this.
 
You want to talk about threats? Lets talk about Florida. Over 10,000 confirmed cases of corona virus today,
 
5,000 on June 25
3,200 on June 18
1,700 on June 11
 
Its roughly doubling every week, so at this rate they could have 150,000 cases PER DAY by the end of July. They can't even test that many people! They have enacted no suppression measures, and even if they went into a hard lock down today, they could be three weeks before they flatten the curve because of the lag between exposure and onset. To make it worse, (1) we are going into a holiday/party weekend, (2) Disneyworld opens in 9 days, (3) kids start going back to school around the first week of august, (4) the NBA season is starting in FL, (5) we are heading into the FL hurricane season, and oh yea (6) THE RNC. 
 
Florida is going to be a bloodbath when all is said and done, which is 100% the fault of the GOP because it has devolved into this bizarre death cult where they literally sacrifice the lives of their own voters to appease Lord Trump. And its not just Florida. Texas, Georgia, Arizona... all those red states are getting blasted now, and both republican lawmakers as well as the dipsh1ts that voted for them are just pretending that its not happening. Do you realize that the rest of the world is looking at the US as an example of what not to do during a pandemic?
 
You're an old timer, right? You oughtta thank sweet middle eastern Jesus that you live in a state with a democrat in the governor's mansion, because if good old "Death Sentence" DeSantis was the governor of PA, you would probably be dead by now.




I'm really thankful that I wasn't in an assisted living, or nursing home in NY or Washington state.
 
My mother is in an assisted living complex in FL and is doing fine. She just turned 97, should I warn her of her impending doom?
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 02:14:03 (permalink)
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The Democrat party is by far the greatest threat to this country, and it's people than any foreign power or entity.

And I think that this type of thinking is the biggest danger to our country. About half of the nation (registered democrats) are the biggest danger to the country? Does this mean you work, live, contact this ENEMY every day? Must be tough to get anything done seeing half of America as its greatest enemy. What about the political spectrum? Isn’t it possible that people who register for one party or another, but are basically in the center, actually have more in common with each other than with those at extreme ends of their party? I do. When did politics become a f-in religion? This country is a balance, it always has been. It always will be...at least until we destroy it.

Jo Jorgensen 2020!!! 😎

 
The Democrat party and it's platform is much different than a being a registered Democrat voter.
I'm registered as an Independent, and generally vote Republican. 
 
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 06:27:10 (permalink)
More democrats of my family, friends and neighborhood are splitting their ticket and voting GOP, then did 2016 & 2018.


TRUMP/PENCE 2020

DRAIN THE SWAMP

PROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPT.


umm that's if the Pelosi Swampcrats allow us to vote in Penn's Woods.
post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2020/07/03 06:31:31

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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 09:28:26 (permalink)
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My mother is in an assisted living complex in FL and is doing fine. She just turned 97, should I warn her of her impending doom?


Are you kidding? YES, I would absolutely be concerned about my elderly relatives if they were living in a state with a major outbreak and those relatives were in a high risk group. ESPECIALLY if they are in an assisted living facility, because as you noted, this disease has a history of disproportionately affecting people in those conditions. I’m totally not trying to be a d1ck here, but how can this situation not concern you?
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 10:36:12 (permalink)
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Voting for president in our current two party system is essentially an individual act of symbolism, that’s all. I’m less cynical about local/state elections.




Yea, I agree that local and state elections can have a substantial impact in our day to day lives in a lot of ways. But it’s all intertwined.

Look at the referendum they just voted on to expand Medicaid in Oklahoma. The decision to expand Medicaid is made at the state level, right? So state level elections are definitely important because either the elected governor decides to opt in, or in some cases the citizens decide if there is a ballot referendum. But Medicaid expansion only exists because of the ACA, which was an Obama initiative.

With Trump, he has become the de facto leader of the party, and every republican from your local school board to the US senate has to bend the knee, otherwise he attacks or ostracizes them. He wields immense power within the party right now, and in turn dictates the behavior of all those local republican officials. This is evident in the way all republicans (with a few exceptions like Mike Dewine) have reacted to the corona virus pandemic.

Plus there is the judiciary, which as we are seeing with Trump, one single 4 year administration can shape federal courts for DECADES.

I could throw out a lot more examples (I didn’t even mention foreign policy yet), but you see what I’m getting at, right?

AND... look at how close that last election was- something like less than 100,000 votes in three states? Or the 2000 gore v Bush election? We are talking razor thin margins, especially in swing states PA. It just seems like such a mistake to throw your vote away on a third party.
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 10:45:53 (permalink)
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My mother is in an assisted living complex in FL and is doing fine. She just turned 97, should I warn her of her impending doom?


Are you kidding? YES, I would absolutely be concerned about my elderly relatives if they were living in a state with a major outbreak and those relatives were in a high risk group. ESPECIALLY if they are in an assisted living facility, because as you noted, this disease has a history of disproportionately affecting people in those conditions. I’m totally not trying to be a d1ck here, but how can this situation not concern you?



Because the facilities have controls in place that limit access of people into and out of the complex. She said there were no cases ever found in the community to date. I'm sure she much safer there than almost anywhere.
 
It seems that you don't have to try being a d1ck.
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 11:43:34 (permalink)
I have a relative who is a Nursing Home Manager-
As soon as this virus came about in the US he immediately locked down- hard- before things started getting out of hand.
To date his Home has NO repeat NO incidents.
He did his primary job and protected his patients- and staff by putting their health above all else.
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 12:57:33 (permalink)
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I have a relative who is a Nursing Home Manager-
As soon as this virus came about in the US he immediately locked down- hard- before things started getting out of hand.
To date his Home has NO repeat NO incidents.
He did his primary job and protected his patients- and staff by putting their health above all else.


Same with my hometown facility.  I don't remember the exact date but they definitely shut the facility down two weeks to 10 days before everything else was shut.  No cases.  Good on them.  
 
JM2...I'm with you, your mother is probably in the safest place she can be.  I'm glad she's well.  
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 12:58:19 (permalink)
Some people think that only a Democrat governor can protect you, and your family from this virus, and from most other things for that manner.
 
They apparently still have a lot to learn. Maybe if they would stop cherrypicking their sources of information, and "facts" they could start the learning process.
 
Democrat governors have far more blood on their hands than anyone, when it comes to nursing home deaths. How can that be ignore by some?
It like they live in an opposite reality.
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 12:59:33 (permalink)
In other news, it's busy out there and only about half the people I encountered in my bi-weekly trip from Buffalo to Western PA had masks on.  One fella was in a Nittany Mart with no mask AND NO SHOES!  WTF?!
Go America! Be safe everyone. Happy 4th!  
 
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 13:01:28 (permalink)
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JM2...I'm with you, your mother is probably in the safest place she can be.  I'm glad she's well.  




Thanks LDD
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 13:14:07 (permalink)
Nursing homes and LTC's have SOPs in place for any virus outbreak.

PA and NY care facilities undoubtedly were activating those procedures until Coumo, followed by Wolf and other Democrat Governors forced, REPEAT FORCED, health care facilities to take Covid-19 infected patients.

Any care units failing to follow those orders were/are facing infractions against their license.

KUDOs to those Nursing Homes and LTC facilities that refused.

On another note, anyone hear if Livine's mother, decided to return to her health care facility?

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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 13:39:01 (permalink)
Straight from the NewYorkTimes,

NEW YORK "toiletpaper" TIMES

At least 54,000 residents and workers have died from the coronavirus at nursing homes and other long-term care facilities for older adults in the United States, according to a New York Times database. As of June 26, the virus has infected more than 282,000 people at some 12,000 facilities.



https://www.nytimes.com/i...rus-nursing-homes.html


Food For Thought, prior to Covid-19, death of a patient wasn't directly attributed to a flu virus so comparing those virus related deaths to those of Covid-19, would be near impossible. IMO.
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 15:52:04 (permalink)
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I have a relative who is a Nursing Home Manager-
As soon as this virus came about in the US he immediately locked down- hard- before things started getting out of hand.
To date his Home has NO repeat NO incidents.
He did his primary job and protected his patients- and staff by putting their health above all else.


Same with my hometown facility.  I don't remember the exact date but they definitely shut the facility down two weeks to 10 days before everything else was shut.  No cases.  Good on them.  
 
JM2...I'm with you, your mother is probably in the safest place she can be.  I'm glad she's well.  


I disagree with nursing homes being the safest place.  My wife works in a nursing home, and like the others mentioned here, they quickly locked it down, and have had no COVID cases.  While the lock-down certainly helped, I think the main factor is our area has had a low COVID presence.  I'd be curious to hear if any of the other homes mentioned were in "hot spots".
 
The weak-link of all nursing homes is staffing issues.  The undesirable job duties and low pay make it extremely difficult to attract responsible workers.  Often these jobs are a last resort for prospective employees.  Many homes have relaxed their hiring criteria in an effort to fill the constant staff shortages. While the lock-down has stopped unnecessary visitors, it has done nothing to prevent a careless employee from bringing COVID in. 
 
Just another example of human life having a price tag.  Revamping Medicaid would go a long way to improving the lives of nursing home residents.
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 16:21:58 (permalink)
It certainly takes a special caring kind of person willing to work in a nursing home and it's true the facilities are understaffed causing caregivers to be overworked and they are definitely under paid. However, this is true in many of the PA health care facilities.

JerryS here is an article you might find of interest and from there, you might find more information to your benefit.

https://www.post-gazette....9/stories/202005190118


Now if I may ask, in what way would "revamping Medicare", improve working conditions and other needed changes in PA nursing homes?

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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 16:55:46 (permalink)
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Some people think that only a Democrat governor can protect you, and your family from this virus,


Nobody actually thinks this.

However, ALOT of people believe that only democrat lawmakers are taking the threat seriously and taking the appropriate steps to protect the lives of the people that live in this country.

Republican lawmakers could easily take steps to slow the spread of the disease, they simply choose not to because: (1) they care about money more than human life, and (2) Trump has dictated the party line on this issue.
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 17:26:53 (permalink)
Yea, the Dem Gov of NY and Dem Mayor of NYC did  GREAT jobs.
Your TDS is getting worse.
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Re: Trump... 2020/07/03 17:46:35 (permalink)
Lets not forget the other democrats like in California,How about the idiot in Washington,New jersey and ours in Pa is no rocket scientist either!!
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