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2008/01/28 13:54:34 (permalink)

crabs

i might of missed this on the old bord. but does any one reameber the story of the fellow that caught chinese mittn crabs off the point a few years back???? i know there waz a post about it a while ago. just wounder wat was the out come of it, an if any one else had any luck catching them?
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/28 13:59:29 (permalink)

    Better too far back, than too far forward.
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/28 14:03:29 (permalink)
    oo ok cool so its not too long ago. thanks musky.  has any one caught any of them lately?
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/28 17:14:29 (permalink)
    I hope not, if you check the link I posted in there, they will be bad news for the salmonid future in erie. 

    Better too far back, than too far forward.
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/28 17:20:03 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: MuskyMastr

    I hope not, if you check the link I posted in there, they will be bad news for the salmonid future in erie. 

     
    Salmoniod Future? Can you embellish on that...
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/28 17:57:23 (permalink)
    Even though we see primarily a stocked population, the preferred food of chinese mitten crabs is the eggs of the salmonid family.  So they would severly hamper future efforts for naturally reproducing populations.

    Better too far back, than too far forward.
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/28 18:29:22 (permalink)
    i can c ur point musky. but if they are that bad to the fish population then why cant the fish comm. have a raffel to only a few lucky guys out there, who would want to set a few test pots an monitor there travels?? i think it would make sence to have the public help out.. u fig how many miles there are on the lake an the thousands of guys including my self that go 10mils out an troll. i mean that could be a good place to set a few test pots to see if they are out there yet. an also to see if the lake floor is covered with them?  sry for all the thoughts im kinda i bio nerd but would loove to help out
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/28 18:48:32 (permalink)
    i cot crabs in nam are the same one's i hope not
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/28 19:07:54 (permalink)
    lmao...Peacy that was some funny chit right there....

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    RE: crabs 2008/01/28 20:41:22 (permalink)
    ****! lol
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/28 22:16:18 (permalink)
    the preferred food of chinese mitten crabs is the eggs of the salmonid family. So they would severly hamper future efforts for naturally reproducing populations.



    Even so if the eggs were the crabs preferred food theyd have a hell of a time getting them since trout/salmon species all swim up stream to spawn. only real chance those crabs have a chance to feed on naturally reproduced eggs would be trout run. And even then with the cold temps Itd be highly unlikely that theyd have the effect on the fish that the human and walleye have.

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    RE: crabs 2008/01/28 22:23:58 (permalink)
    The problem with them is twofold.
    1.  Discovery or recognition of a viable breeding population then requires management dollars (even if it is to remove them)
    2.  The issue in a multi state/ international fishery become immediatley complicated.
     
    Right now there is no reason someone could not put pots out for them.  However it is my thought that at this point there is not a large enough population to make viable estimates from this method.  Of course that opinion is fairly uneducated at this point, as I have not read a lot of the literature on them.  Bottom line is any invasive species is bad.  Look at the history of the lake or any fishery for that matter and nothing good happens when exotics move in.  I would have to believe that if we see them begin to flourish in the lake it is because they have adapted to prefer other food sources.

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    RE: crabs 2008/01/28 22:25:35 (permalink)
    with the gobies an crabs an zebra muscels there really is not much hope for erie in the future if all holds true then ...... sumthing to think about...
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 00:00:41 (permalink)
    Steelhead arent a native species

    and speaking with lots of perch fisherman theyve been catchin perch with belly fulls of zebra muscels.

    as long as those flying grass carp dont get into the lake!

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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 08:54:41 (permalink)
    i caught a few eyes out of north east last year that had gobies in them  as for perch eating the muscels  they have to be starving to eat them. im guessing they dont taste that well  lol
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 10:21:49 (permalink)
    I don't know about if perch like the zebras or not but, I know from the filet board that they sure eat a lot of them.
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 11:56:21 (permalink)
    They would have no impact on Steehead population, BUT along with the gobies could be devastating for the Smallmouth. It would not HURT to have folks set pots, but without the profit motive of a large marketable population, the were would not be enough water covered to be of much value.
     
    As I've stated before, between the Great lakes Council, Pa. Sea Grant, and other agencies, the great lakes are among the most closely monitered waters in the world. There is a thread, titled "Great Lakes Ballast Water" which provides information on an invasive species workshop. A great opportunity to get the current scoop on the threats, their magnatude, and efforts to adress them. 

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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 15:46:18 (permalink)
    thanks spoon an everyone else for the help
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 18:55:14 (permalink)
    Here's a good read about them in England. (Finally figured out how to get the URL's up)
    They have had them quite some time. They want to export them as a food source. Makes you wonder what they taste like with all that hair.
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    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/11/1113_031113_mittencrabs.html
     
     
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 19:00:23 (permalink)
    oth... if they become a food source here then the fish commission will pro just tax us on them or find sum way of them making money on them... even though we are helping the promblem  i think that would be awesome to be fishing for them like they do on deadliest catch..
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 19:13:20 (permalink)
    I'm doing a little surfing on these buggers and see California has a limit of 35 keepers. You must kill them to keep and not put in any other waters. OTH 
     
     
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/11/1113_031113_mittencrabs.html
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 19:16:05 (permalink)
    i dont care what any one say about them if there is 1 then there are many others..  they are just hiding  thanks for th info oth. i think oth wants to go crab fishing on erie like the rest of us haha
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 19:21:40 (permalink)
    Makes you wonder what they taste like with all that hair.

     
    try using a toothpick.
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 19:31:02 (permalink)
    Yea I do miss going down the shore crabbing. Ocean City NJ. had a nice hotel on the bay that we would go to. Kids were little and swimming in the pool, docks were right there so I could crab and catch Kingfish, Fluke, and at night STRIPERS! When the stripers would hit, you had to reel in like hell or they would wrap around the docks and bust off. Our room had the kitchenette so I would fry up whatever was caught and bring it out to the pool deck and pass it around to the other guests. Funny, most of the people there were from Western PA. They were good times from what I can remember.
     
    Here's the latest Mid-Atlantic report on sightings.
     
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/11/1113_031113_mittencrabs.html
     
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 19:36:07 (permalink)
    oth did you do that commercially? or just for fun?
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 19:40:08 (permalink)
    Just for fun. Vactions the third week in August.
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 19:46:07 (permalink)
    oo cool. i want to get into commercial fishn really bad. getting paid to fish. wat more can u ask for? lol thanks for the info oth.  maby sum on will catch another one soon. an that would make the fish comm think sum more
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 19:52:34 (permalink)
    I wouldn't want them in our coastal waters. They really do a lot of damage to the streambanks. I love the delaware River just as it is.
    Neat though how they need to go from freshwater to the ocean to spawn. O
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 19:57:08 (permalink)
    yes i can imagine taking my dog to walk along the creeks an having a crab pinch her claws . lol not to mention lots of land errosion
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    RE: crabs 2008/01/29 20:10:51 (permalink)
    If they taste like Blue Claws it would save a lot of gas though compared to going to the shore.
     
    I really think it's inevitable, they'll be up river soon if not already. They found some in the bay so what's to stop them from going up. Just like the Zebra Mussel spreading into PA. waters. The global world is turning into a melting pot of a mess for the local ecosytems. OTH
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