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2014/10/11 21:39:21 (permalink)

what would you do?

I went spotting tonight after I got done hunting and seen 4 shooter bucks from the property across your mine. I would say roughly a quarter mile away. One group of four bucks and.one group of three bucks.. the one buck is in the hitlist he is a stud. So do I move closer in on them or sit and wait for the bucks to break up? All deer were in fields one corn one pasture..
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/11 21:43:23 (permalink)
    The ruts nearly here and they will come to you. make sure everything is ready and wait.
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/11 23:24:49 (permalink)
    A lot of eyes and noses to deal with. Plus, bucks still running together says they ain't love struck and most likely won't be goofy yet.

    Wait, but watch as, you may have to move. When love is in the air Mr. Dominant will be looking for the doe in heat. Find the bedding area of this doe and studly will be along. Watch doe and study the tarsal glands for color. These glands will become very dark as the doe comes into heat. If you find that doe so will your buck. You just need to be there before he is as, he most likely won't pay attention to you.

    How'd I do?
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/13 04:45:07 (permalink)
    Whats up Ed,  Yeah don't move and let them come to you.  Just make sure you leave NO SIGNS of being there. I mean spray your FEET , PANT LEG, and HANDS  don't touch anything on the way in or out. Of coarse only hunt the right wind !!!   How ya do cattin this year, I did pretty good No 50pounder but a couple close
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/13 13:02:07 (permalink)
    Barely fished bh too busy with work.. trucks in body shop now hoping to get out Saturday for deer and grouse
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/13 20:48:36 (permalink)
    Set up a mock scrape with a drip bag about 20 yds from your stand. 
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/13 21:03:04 (permalink)
    Kota I actually made my first ever mock scrape about three days ago. I have no vehicle to go hunting because its in the shop but apparently a big buck came out from.my patch of woods tonight and into the field
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/14 09:31:39 (permalink)
    Mid October bow hunting always sucks for me.  The go from their summer feeding pattern to being nocturnal and not being anywhere you would expect them.  Wait until Halloween and hunt hard from there out.  Funnels, doe bedding areas later on.  You will be fine.  Never did the mock scrape, I have heard good things.
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/14 11:41:32 (permalink)
    Ain't it the truth!!!!

    Just when ya think ya got em figured out; they vanish!

    Getting ready to do some still hunting just so I can see waasup in the forest and fields.

    Rained a bit so I am hoping for some quiet tippy toeing thru the trees.

    PGC says there is a abundance of deer so, I'm off to find them.

    That's why it's called hunting; so, I've been told.

    I call it blowing smoke........


    Good luck and I hope you kill (my bad) "harvest" a big one..

    Things taste better on a stick.

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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/14 20:55:45 (permalink)
    Seen two bucks tonight come out right afterdark and bed in the field. Lots of talk of deer chasing but I got nnothing here 2b
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/14 21:40:13 (permalink)
    Ed, IMO too many things can happen if you wait,most of them bad,like him moving out,other hunters moving in,getting hit by a vehicle etc. I say strike when the iron is hot.  sam
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/14 22:52:55 (permalink)
    where are the doe? thats where the big boy will be. are they there or where you hunt. if you see most of the doe there i would move. he will kick the other smaller bucks out and stick with his doe. no scent, some scent works and some dont, but none of the scents smell 100% real. they all have additives to preserve them witch make them smell different and may spook most smarter bucks. scent proof and play the wind.
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/14 22:54:49 (permalink)
    and dont over hunt the stand. maybe put one in both places and hunt them according to the wind.
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/15 07:21:52 (permalink)
    akitadog
    and dont over hunt the stand. maybe put one in both places and hunt them according to the wind.


    +1 there. I've already burned 2 stands. No way a buck will be cruisin that area. Got other options tho. Gonna give the property a break and hit em hard at the end of the month.
     
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/15 07:37:11 (permalink)
    Was four doe in field with them so the doesare aaround
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/15 07:44:25 (permalink)
    Deer change food sources quickly this time of year. Look for hot oaks droppin acorns, close to the sightings, and stake them out....WF... They will come....or wait a few weeks.
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/15 08:14:05 (permalink)
    The bigger bucks know it is not time yet to waste much energy chasing does that are uninterested. Food is still key but it is changing rapidly this time of the year. The white oaks are drying up around here. I checked some red oaks yesterday and they are beginning to drop with a lot up there to come down.

    I have seen bucks still traveling together. Two more weeks fellas then things will change with funnels and doe bedding areas being the keys. Until then, food still is up top.

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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/15 08:42:58 (permalink)
    Consider how the buck will be keeping tabs on his little harem.

    Most likely by vision and smell so terrain and wind direction will be important. We take advantage of height and so will he. We certainly can't smell the deer but we know they can smell us so, we stay down wind and so will he.

    Use the smaller bucks to your advantage as they know when the class bully is nearby.

    Just some food for thought.....
    post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2014/10/15 08:44:49

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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/15 09:02:40 (permalink)
    Most of our oaks are down and have been for a week or more. Several high wind days helped them along.
    Have one active small buck in my area with a scrape line around the perimeter of a block of woods.
    Watched a legal but small buck work a sapling two days ago.
    So far in 18 sits out of 8 different locations have had 5 small bucks, one smaller but legal buck and one doe in shooting range.
    It's still a bit early.
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/15 09:36:13 (permalink)
    Hang in there........ Bigger bucks and lots of deer this year. I forget where I heard that but, I'm sure it's true. :-P

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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/15 10:18:16 (permalink)
    Lots of good advice in this thread so far.  Especially about the changing food sources and waiting for the rut.
     
    If it were me personally, I would give it another two weeks before I went after him.  Then I would do like DPMS says and hunt the funnels and edges of doe bedding areas while keeping the wind in your favor. 
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/15 10:33:27 (permalink)
    Interesting and well thought out advice. Now if I can put it all to use and get me one of them shooter bucks the PGC keeps talking about.

    On another note; is it legal for the holder of lifetime license to kill (sorry) harvest 'antlerless deer' during the special firearms season provided that, said hunter has the appropriate 'Antlerless Tag'? Also, can said hunter use any legal weapon?

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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/15 10:48:29 (permalink)
    Im going to check.my mock scrape cam today ill report back
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/15 21:27:53 (permalink)
    Update, zero pics in the cam. My buddy hunted the field and seen two shooters right before dark. Coming into the field which had four doesbin it
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/16 08:04:58 (permalink)
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    Interesting and well thought out advice. Now if I can put it all to use and get me one of them shooter bucks the PGC keeps talking about.

    On another note; is it legal for the holder of lifetime license to kill (sorry) harvest 'antlerless deer' during the special firearms season provided that, said hunter has the appropriate 'Antlerless Tag'? Also, can said hunter use any legal weapon?

    Yes to all
     
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/16 08:34:17 (permalink)
    Thank-you kindly........

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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/16 17:57:11 (permalink)
    On another note; is it legal for the holder of lifetime license to kill (sorry) harvest 'antlerless deer' during the special firearms season provided that, said hunter has the appropriate 'Antlerless Tag'? Also, can said hunter use any legal weapon?

     
     
     
    BTDT ...bloody hands sort of has the WRONG answer to your questions.....
     
    depends on the type of lifetime license they have...
     
    if they have the senior lifetime COMBO (combo being the key word) then yes to both questions...
     
    If they just have a senior lifetime license then "NO" to the last question, they would need either an archery tag and/or muzzleloader tag to use those type of weapons...
     
    but they can only have one type weapon with them at a time....
    i.e.=  no archery weapon and a "gun" at the same time ...
     
    the lifetime COMBO includes your archery, muzzleloader and furtaker tags.... 
    post edited by Dr. Trout - 2014/10/16 17:59:35
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/16 21:11:21 (permalink)
    Thanks Doc. appreciate you taking the time. So darn many if, and, or, buts....... sure do miss the good old days.

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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/17 07:36:42 (permalink)
    Thanks Doc. I forgot about having the appropriate stamp for the various weapons. I based my answer on my dads lifetime COMBO. Doc kinda has part of his answer wrong also. If you are legally licensed to conceal and carry, you are allowed to have your concealed gun while hunting with any other weapon.
     
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    Re: what would you do? 2014/10/17 12:30:36 (permalink)
    Thanks... (LMAO) I read the reg.s several times and still needed the opinion of others.

    Knew about the concealed and do. No tellin' when you might encounter a 'rabid critter' in the PA. Wilds.

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