Recognize your fly?

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2008/01/15 21:54:02 (permalink)

Recognize your fly?

Here are two of the flies I retrieved from inside of a couple of steelheads mouths.  I generally drop these into a pocket in my chestpack when I find them.  I find it wierd where the lines broke, not at the knot where you would expect it to.
 
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    Grendel
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/15 22:01:29 (permalink)
    I am pretty sure Spoon made both of those....snicker
     
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/15 22:07:14 (permalink)
    The only thing I recognize about my fly is when someone tells me its down!

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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/15 22:12:38 (permalink)
    A lot of people don't realize Steelys have pretty sharp teeth. Any fish I catch that has a lure in its mouth(or some where else), I always unhook the lure or lures and try to reuse them. One time I got a small orange flatfish lure out of a fish's mouth. I put a new hook on it and that "free lure" has caught me at least 10 fish over the years. The weird thing is I have never seen another lure like it anywhere!
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/15 23:34:32 (permalink)
    I know one thing for sure if you find any fish with straight flash jigs with nickle plated heads in 1/32 there mine i must have broken off 6 yesterday on fish. Them fresh ones are strong as bulls............... Centerpin_drift!
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/15 23:57:26 (permalink)
    Was it a jointed flatfish?  I lost a small orange jointed flatsfish in the tribs a few years ago that was by far my best producer ever.  Orange, jointed and had black dots on it.
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/16 00:11:45 (permalink)
    i laugh when i see people tying a dry knot on the tribs, they dont realize that their catch ratio cant increase amazingly if they just licked the knot before they pulled tight...
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/16 02:59:30 (permalink)
    What is the bottom fly called? I've gotten two of those myself, out of
    steelies' mouths. Wonder if same guy lost them. I haven't ever seen them
    anywhere else. The line probably got rubbed on the rocks while landing
    a previous fish and split. The one I got was actually high test line, probably 8 pound, but was all brittle and nicked, but the fly was like new.
     
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/16 06:27:44 (permalink)
    Most of the limbs along the tribs look like Chrismas trees this time of year. A great place to check out what people have been using.
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/16 07:02:12 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: FiveMilePete

    What is the bottom fly called? I've gotten two of those myself, out of
    steelies' mouths. Wonder if same guy lost them. I haven't ever seen them
    anywhere else. The line probably got rubbed on the rocks while landing
    a previous fish and split. The one I got was actually high test line, probably 8 pound, but was all brittle and nicked, but the fly was like new.


     
    Looks to me like a Thunder Creek Chub......

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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/16 07:47:40 (permalink)
    It has the head of a thundercreek but they are tied VERY sparse, so sparse i think the body if anything is nothing more then flash. That looks like they cut appart a shirt to get the material for the body.
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/16 08:29:23 (permalink)
    I know one things for Certain the top one is considered the "steelhead fly" at PR.  I believe its tied by Jag Fly Company.  I have had great success with that nymph, in a size 12 white, or gray.  Try em out next time its not very hard to tie either. 
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/16 10:08:10 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: FiveMilePete

    What is the bottom fly called? I've gotten two of those myself, out of
    steelies' mouths. Wonder if same guy lost them. I haven't ever seen them
    anywhere else. The line probably got rubbed on the rocks while landing
    a previous fish and split. The one I got was actually high test line, probably 8 pound, but was all brittle and nicked, but the fly was like new.


     
     
    Looks to me as a beat up generic hopper pattern
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/16 11:03:41 (permalink)
    smallmouth, it might be where the angler had crimped on a split shot or two to get the fly down deeper, thus being the weakest part of the line. if it doesn't look snipped off that's my guess. or got rubbed against a rock.
    post edited by doubletaper - 2008/01/16 11:08:26

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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/16 19:27:08 (permalink)
    Anadromous what do you know? The bomber is a nymph and this thing here is obviously a streamer.
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/16 19:46:43 (permalink)
    after some research of my fly tying books, the bottom fly looks to be tied in the syle of a troth salmon fly only with a greenish body, maybe to represent the erie emerald shiner, with a gold rib and a tail of red calf tail or substituted material. it lists a mustad 79580 hook #4-#8 for those who are interested. ~dt
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/17 02:21:45 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: swinger

    Anadromous what do you know? The bomber is a nymph and this thing here is obviously a streamer.

     
     
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/17 16:25:32 (permalink)
    I do have a small rod Its not my fault. I took your advice and hit the water today and swung some of my favorite pausing water. The fish didnt care about the length of my rod, and was rewarded. Yuri created some of the nicest flies out there. A true legend, RIP.
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/17 22:02:08 (permalink)
    When it is fishable? Thats where I was today. Should have been there yesterday but had a hunch on a different trib. Grand is to big and scary for you grasshopper. You cant see the fish there you know. Unless you come in spring and line them fish off the beds. 40+ hook ups arent the norm but do happen. You can also leave your 4lb tippet at home because these fish will eat that up. http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/Portals/9/pdf/grand.pdf Stay away from spot #1 and 2 because that is more for casting spoons and what not. All other spots are good starting points. I would suggest looking at acouple and pick 1 or 2 to learn well. Next year learn a different one and so on. Like I did. My horse is high and somebody kicked out my stool so there is no getting down. I did read the Nagy article but for some reason I am not a huge Nagy guy. I do have and did read his book but something doesnt sit right with me and I cant put my finger on it.
     
     
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/19 06:53:21 (permalink)
    I myself would love to feel the tug of a 20lb as well. Swung on Fri with acouple takers. Hits were soft but runs OK. The water is cold and yet these fish will still chase a swung fly. We will see anadromous, we will see.  If you keep making me laugh over this cold winter it will improve your chances of getting in on it. But dont get your hopes up. I dont want all them PA fools mucking up my water.
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    RE: Recognize your fly? 2008/01/20 16:07:34 (permalink)
    That nymph looks like a nice Golden Stone. 

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