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2008/01/10 07:21:16 (permalink)

Fishers

   Found some critter tracks last week in the snow. Looked like a huge mink track.
  Talked to one of my buddies that does alot of trapping and he said they were probably fisher tracks.
 Anyone else seen one or trapped them???

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    S-10
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/10 11:44:04 (permalink)
    I have one living in the valley behind my house. Saw it twice during archery season. Called it to within 5 yards the second time by sucking on the back of my hand.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/10 21:24:02 (permalink)
    My son caught and released one in a coon set in 2005, here in Warren County. Several of my friends have caught them also. I'd say the reintroduction went pretty well.

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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/10 21:36:28 (permalink)
    The one I saw is in Warren county also---West of you. A friend of mine caught one in the same valley last year which I assume is the same one one I saw. They sure are a pretty animal.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/10 21:43:07 (permalink)
    Ours was on Bull Hill, outside of Sheffield. I also had one run across the road in front of me on Cherry Grove Rd... narrowly missed it.

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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/10 21:57:31 (permalink)
    Opposite direction from me---must be a bunch of the little critters running around. That's ok ---put a little excitement in an  otherwise boring deer hunting day.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/11 10:54:08 (permalink)
    My Dad saw one on Bull Hill also, somewhere in the vicinity of the Rod & Gun Club.
     
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/11 12:08:06 (permalink)
    A friend has seen them on a couple occassions in Cambria County.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/11 18:02:27 (permalink)
    I have sean them in the hills of Cambria county as well behind my fathers place.  Big claws. look like they would be a handfull.

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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/12 14:54:42 (permalink)
    I had one cross the road in front of me Thursday morning in Blair County.  It took a while before I figured out what it was.

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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/12 15:28:19 (permalink)
    DOING MY 3 MILE RUN 2 WEEKS AGO I SAW A COYOTE !! IN MY HOUSING PLAN IN SARVER !!
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/13 20:48:40 (permalink)
    I saw my 1st one ever this year at Geneva on the Lake. Pretty cool, it went after a guys top water lure. They are bigger than you think.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/13 21:33:13 (permalink)
    ?????????????
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/14 00:31:04 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: S-10

    ?????????????

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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/14 07:05:30 (permalink)
    Jeb,
     
    S-10 ???? are because the discussion was about th Mammal not the bird.
     
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/14 07:27:45 (permalink)
    Even though their name is Fisher they don't normally eat fish and I was questioning if it was really a fisher he saw.  They are a land based animal introduced to kill porkeypines and their diet is made up of mainly small birds and animals. I think it would be highly unusal for one to be swimming after a plug in the water. Not trying to stir the pot, I just think he may have misidentified it.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/14 07:59:08 (permalink)
    While a fisher has somewhat the same coloration as an otter their body configuration is more like a racoon and would be more apt to eat a fish trapped in a puddle whereas an otter is long and sleek, like a mink, and will swim underwater after fish, etc. I would be more inclined to think that is what you saw.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/14 16:19:18 (permalink)
    I was told by the guy who runs the Marina that it was a Fisher. I thought it was an otter, sure looked like one.It wasn't a muskrat and way too big for a weasel, could it have been a otter ?
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/15 07:28:33 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: duncsdad

    I had one cross the road in front of me Thursday morning in Blair County.  It took a while before I figured out what it was.

     
    route 22 Shawn?
     
    I had one cross in front of me right before Yellow Springs Road (back road to Williamsburg) about 3 weeks ago.  I was on my way to State College.  Too big to be a groundhog.  Hair was almost black.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/15 11:27:05 (permalink)
    my buddies dad saw a fisher climb a tree in his field and grab a young turkey that was roosting, he also said the farm next to him kept having chickens killed because of it.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/15 15:53:31 (permalink)
    ya, they're cute untill there are to many of them and the small game population declines more. now why would they be introduced in PA. forests? what did a porcupine ever do? it wouldn't be because of the lumber companies?? if they were introduced to eat porcupines why didn't the educated people that introduce them figure out they would multiply and cause harm to other small game, turkey, farm animals?? hopefully this doesn't turn into the great fisher migration from canada that followed there favorite food=porkupines... 

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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/15 15:54:53 (permalink)
    Seen one this past summer while fishing the Little J.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/15 16:08:58 (permalink)
    seen one in ludlow area while hunting there 2 years ago.

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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/15 17:21:12 (permalink)
    Your right on doubletaper--- As much as I enjoyed seeing it they are just another predator competing with bear, coyotes, fox and humans for a decreasing prey population. Along with porkys their main food consists of rabbits, squirrels, grouse, turkey, and wouldn't you know it--" young deer". Great for the lumber companies as porkeys destroy trees, great for the environmentalists who want the world like it was before man, but not so great for someone who enjoys hunting.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/16 08:18:29 (permalink)
    Talk about predation S-10.  Feeding corn to prey sure makes it easy for predators, not to mention other countless negative impacts it causes.   Even dumas Gary Alt and all the dumas PGC biologists can tell you that.  Ever the AllState ear tagged game commission stocked coyote can figure that out.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/16 08:33:32 (permalink)
    I guess I should tell my neighbor to quit planting it then. I buy it from him and put it in a turkey feeder with holes large enough the deer can work it out. When the deer and turkey have cleaned his leavings they work my feeder if the snow gets deep. Neither one works it much until it gets hard to find anything else. Hell--- the the deer have fed on corn forever--why do you think the farmers want them all dead. If predators become a problem I will quit doing it but that hasn't happened here yet. I've been doing it for 35 years with no noticable problem.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/16 09:09:37 (permalink)
    The fact is S-10 is that corn is bad for deer, in practically every way, unless it's there ONLY way to survive.  Which I find to be impossible with our past decades snow fall and herd reduction.

    Ask you neighbor to plant alphala and you won't see the deer touch that corn.  I watch it every year on the local farms.  70-80 deer in one field and no one even close to corn.  That right there should tell you something about corn.  It is deterimental to pregant females too, and can easily kill a yearling because of digestive problems.  Every animal builds up enyzmes for a particular food, then a sudden change can starve them EVEN with a full stomach.  A deer's stomach is far more complex than ours containing 4 separate chambers.  Remember the discussion that a deer doesn't mature until age 3, and IF the body doesn't get good nutrition, the antlers will do without.

    I see a noticeable problem already, your bucks haven't gotten any bigger since AR, I trust you judgement so --  right there could be the answer or part of it.

    Not Gary Alt..

    Everyone complains about the predators in NC PA.  Concentrating deer CAN'T be a good thing no matter how you look at it.

    I spend a lot of time with deer because I too like watching them but I think it's better to go their home than for me to bring them to mine.  We're both better off that way.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/16 09:52:21 (permalink)
    Silver--do you ever read what I say before starting with your opinions? I put ear corn out early so there isn't the stomach problem and keep it out until greenup for both deer and turkey. It's in a feeder not in a pile on the ground. Yes it is not as good as clover or alfalfa but neither is normally available in the winter. It's sure better than hemlock. As I said before deer have been feeding on corn for as long as man has been planting it with no problems other than farmers trying to kill them for doing so. For you to suggest my supplemental feeding a handful of deer through the winter months is responsible for poor antler development in my large hunting area is ludicrous at best and makes me question just how smart you really are. As far as concentrating deer goes they always concentrate around an available food source be it a white oak, apple tree, cornfield, or whatever. I don't have a herd of deer around my feeder but do have a few in and out all the time when the snow gets deep. I also shovel snow off areas of my yard which has a lot of clover in it to make it easier to get to the grasses.
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/16 10:19:26 (permalink)
    Yes, I do. 
    How am I to know about you "large area" and "small" feeder.  It doesn't matter when you put it out.  They STILL have trouble digesting it, especially young deer.  What is "early" supposed to mean?  You are still switching a wild animals diet.  If corn is the most healthy food your deer got, you've got a REAL bad nutrition problem.  They shouldn't have to eat hemlocks.  Sounds like MAJOR forest problems.  Glad the truth finally came out.  Your feed sucks if deer have to browse on hemlocks ... and to think you bust on lumber companies.  Amazing.
     
     
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    RE: Fishers 2008/01/16 10:38:21 (permalink)
    As far as concentrating deer goes they always concentrate around an available food source be it a white oak, apple tree, cornfield, or whatever.
     
    Forgot to comment on this fella.
     
    Can't believe you'd even make this comparsion to a feeder.  Especially white oaks, they are spread over miles.  Makes me wonder how smart you really are.
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