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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/03 10:17:28 (permalink)
This is the first year in 40 years that I didn't have a plow. The past 7 years when I  downsized  to a Tacoma, I used a friends farm vehicle. I took care of the plow and did a bunch of plowing for him, then got to do a route for myself.  This year, with Covid, I didn't want to have to wipe the truck down every time I used it, as many people would be in and out of it.  Usually , the **** plow would be left buried in frozen mud, too.  I bought a commercial grade snow blower and welded up a platform for my receiver.
It was rated for 2'  , but the first large  storm we had it handled 32" with ease.  Yesterday we ended up with 8" and I could send snow 60' as fast as I can walk.  It takes me just a bit longer than a plow, but it  is kind of fun. Having used smaller snow blowers, I was a little skeptical, but this machine is awesome.  Jack, I hope you get out OK and don't damage your back.  These big storms, maybe someone with a plow or loader can whack a path open for you. 
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/03 19:16:52 (permalink)
Well I got an additional three inches overnight but finally cleared all that I could after another 4 1/2 hours of work.  Not perfect but it will have to do.  I hope the next system headed our way isn't as severe because the present mounds are high leaving little room for new snow.  Hurry Spring! 
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/03 19:50:11 (permalink)
We ended up with another 10 or do inches last nigh here. Total was a bit over a foot

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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/04 11:52:07 (permalink)
 Charlie,what brand is that commercial blower and what do they cost?
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/04 12:44:26 (permalink)
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Toro-Power-Max-HD-1030-OHAE-30-in-302-cc-Two-Stage-Gas-Snow-Blower-with-Electric-Start-Triggerless-Steering-Hand-Warmers-38830/313435098
 
Jack, I tried this out last winter at a friend's  business. He has a large snow removal business  with 8 trucks and uses these and small Toro's for sidewalks and tight spaces. The deflector's and the joystick control work great. They are the only snowblower actually made in the USA. I have several other Toro machines and each is well engineered and does a great job.  I'm doing a few large gravel and stone driveways that I use to plow and it has excelled clearing them with the shoes adjusted up an inch. I also do a few tight, straight into garage driveways that with throttling down and adjusting the deflector, I can clear them and place the snow with great accuracy and no damage or complaints from the neighbors. Also has a very easy zero turn.   I have to work the giant road banks, but it clears them pretty quickly.  My own driveway is approximately  150'   paved with  a  carport,  and clearing out the front of my barn doors. The Dec.  17  storm  that was 32" it took me an hour.  My largest driveway took 2.  I did a lot of research before I pulled the trigger, it was well worth it.
 
 
 
 
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/04 15:20:42 (permalink)
Fichy, the 302-cc is small compared to other comparable machines.  Have you found this to be a problem? 
 
Jack, Good luck finding the Toro that Fichy recommended.  The only one I could find near me was at the Home Depot (1) in Kingston NY (40+ miles away).  Prices varied from $1499 at authorized dealers to $1649 at Home Depot.       
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/04 17:40:09 (permalink)
Not in the least, it never bogs, just keeps chucking snow. Motor size does not denote horesepower.  Fuel delivery, valving, compression all have a part.  These motors have lots of torque, good amount of power even at low rpm's. There's numerous  commercial companies using them and plenty of youtube videos showing them heaving wet snow good distances and happy owners. I'm not surprised they're in short supply.  I wouldn't sell mine if you gave me the money I paid for it, and it's just about paid for itself as of now.  The 928's are also very good, according to reviews and my friend who has a few of those, too.
 
Gerry, I punched it in to see how many were around , Kingston was the closest for me!  The 928's  are sold out completely.  Small dealers not on the 'net may have one. If Jack is interested, hopefully his area has a few he can look at.
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/04 18:20:17 (permalink)
Snow came off all the roofs except the back lean and I expect that to come tomorrow if it is above 30. The JD 580 took care of it pretty good so hoping I do not gave to get the big tractor out. I also hope it comes off fast a n.v d ends up on the ground and not the porch. Lake effect the weekend.........

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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/04 20:31:55 (permalink)
Here is an informative article on who produces what.  https://movingsnow.com/20...heir%20snow%20blowers.
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/04 21:34:39 (permalink)
I'm not very experienced on snowblowers. Grew up on farm tractors and a Ford 25 hp lawn tractor bolens motor with front end blower attachment. That thing was a beast.
My downfall was replacing it with a troy built walk behind in 80's Hated the piece of junk and tremendous time a snowblower took to clear our property. For driveways and such they are fine but for clearing large areas , it's very time consuming.
From that point I basically paid a plow service 400 per year . It was pretty sweet having a truck coming and be done with things except basic shoveling.
In 2007 I bought a Yamaha 450 atv grizzly with plow and winch off the showroom floor for 5k cash. That machine has paid for itself in 100 fold utilizing wood, deer, fishing and trail rides. I realize they are more $$ now but still, after 14 years later, mine runs and works like new.
Given that said, I just bought a cheapskate craftsman snowblower for $600.
Its only meant to tidying up or in emergency.
$2,000 ( after tax ) seems like a hefty coin to pay for a machine that might get used 4 months a year to a homeowner.
My thoughts is it would take pretty much 5 years to recoup the investment, not counting labor and struggles.
If it were me in a position of costs over pain, I'd hire a plow service
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/05 08:38:52 (permalink)
My initial post, I advised Jack maybe to hire a plow. I just answered questions. Some like to take care of their own chores. I'm sure Gerry and Jack have their reasons for using snowblowers, as do I. For me the snowblower is ideal at this point in time,  because its almost as quick as a plow and allowed me to keep good customers I've had for 30 years. I've ALWAYS shoveled paths and garage doors and cleaned around cars.  Now I don't have to.  They're like family, and  were  tremendously supportive when  I got cancer.  I  had a snowplowing business for forty years and oversaw snow removal at two ski areas. I've used just about every type of snow removal equipment their is. I now use what works for me.  Most people I know that use blowers just at their residences  expect at least a dozen years use of their machine.  That works out to  5,000 and still leaves a bunch of shoveling and potential damage.  That's why I  bought a snow blower.  Just started Feb. and mine is just about paid for.  This was my trial year, next year I'll add    some more small jobs.  after three years I should have a 10, 000  profit.  Since I'm now semi-retired, works great as supplemental income and keeps me from having someone  do my chores. That would flip me out. 
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/05 17:17:18 (permalink)
I have two reason why I do it myself. 
First is the driveway I had installed about 5 years ago is lined with Belgian block.  The last thing I want or need is a plow guy destroying/knocking loose block.  Second reason is a plow guy leaves behind 1-2" of packed snow that the blade doesn't pick up leaving me ice to contend with and the added expense of having it salted/sanded.  Each major snowfall costs me $150-$200 if it's plowed/salted/sanded. 
 
With the thrower I can get down to bare pavement which lessens the amount of ice I have to contend with.  Being retired I have the time to do it myself at my pace.  The day will come when I will have to wave the white flag of surrender but not yet!
 
The machine I use is a 28" 2 stage Cub Cadet 528 SWE with electric start.  MTD (Murray Tractor Division) makes Cub Cadet, Troy-bilt and a few other machines.  It's okay but wish I had a bigger (wider) machine.  I put an Arnold snow cab on which is a God send in windy conditions.
 
Fichy, I don't know if you checked my link but Toro's engines are made in China by Loncin and have been since 2011.  Most of Toro's machine are USA made the rest are made in Mexico. 
A few years ago I was in the market for a zero turn lawn tractor and went with Toro MX 5050 because it had a heavy duty welded cutting deck as opposed to cheap stamped metal.  I have an acre and a half which takes approximately 1:15 to cut.  A few issues with the machine but overall not bad.
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/05 18:42:19 (permalink)
Gerry, they do make plows for zero turn mowers, and even some 4-5 foot wide blowers. My friend just sent me a pic of a Skaggs he's using at an apartment complex to do thousands of feet of asphalt paths.  He set it up with a hard cab and lights.  Might want to check local small motor works, aint a box store thing. 
Hoping Sunday's storm goes as predicted and misses me. Should miss the Hudson Valley, too.
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/05 18:47:30 (permalink)
I have a Honda,two stage,self propelled,and it runs on tracks.I bought this after I moved into my house about 20 yrs ago.I have a LOOONG drive with a 300 ft hill and then it circles around my 4 car garage and then it goes down the hill to the street.The first winter I had a plow service,and had the same issue with skim ice.So I went with the blower and it is a great machine,but this storm was bad and I.m too old to spend more than 4 hrs. out there.
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/05 19:08:52 (permalink)
Fichy, did your friend have to install wheel weights on the zero turn?  
 
Sunday's forecast keeps changing.  The last report says 3-6" starting around dawn to 3 PM.  It's a fast moving system that shouldn't cause too many headaches.
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/06 09:02:16 (permalink)
I don't know about weights, but it does have chains. 
Jack, you might talk to a few plow guys and see if they will plow a little slower and with the feet removed or set  so the cutting edge actually hits the pavement consistently.  In a big storm they will have to plow twice . If I was doing it by contract, I ate the cost, as I usually had it figured in, if by the storm, they may charge almost double. That's a pretty long driveway . The bill gets pretty hefty by the end of the year.  Maybe you can find a caretaking business or a handyman/laborer that you could pay by the hour to run your machine.   I've heard that those Hondas are very good. I had a customer  in Manchester, Vt. ,in  the snow belt , that used a John Deere  20 hp garden tractor with a blower on it for a large driveway. I swapped the mowing deck out every Spring and Fall for him when he got a little too frail to wrestle with it.  My neighbor uses a Kubota  of the same size. Neither have a cab, but you can get those, too.  HT mentioned loving the set up like that his family had. The largest walk behinds I've ever seen are Graveleys. They work well, but the new ones are very expensive , near what you'd pay for a garden tractor. 
Sick as I am, I still tolerate the cold well and can walk a good distance. That  will change, God knows when. 
Screw piling snow, I want to go catch a steelhead.
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/06 17:15:25 (permalink)
Good talk on the blowers. My Lawn tractor JD X580 let me down. LOL. I guess 2 feet hard packed snow from the roof was too much. I kept raising up and I got stuck and spun a chain off the tire. Even the big blower on the 6K farm tractor raise up or spun. I ended up using the bucket. Making a little mess, but all went well. I cannot exert myself heavily anymore so I am trying to work smarter. Looked at a new cabbed tractor today and if I can stay working will get it. I helped dad with chores this morning to give my other bro a break and it took us twice as long, but we got em down. We were both huffing and puffing like a locomotive after pushing a round bale our. LOL. I start cardiac rehab soon maybe that will help.

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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/06 18:36:02 (permalink)
Again, I'm not well versed on a snowblower except one dosen't work well for my application. My parking and drive areas are all fill gravel. Lots of areas to clear. Used to take me days of frustration and breakdowns so plowing is way to go go here.

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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/06 19:11:10 (permalink)
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Again, I'm not well versed on a snowblower except one dosen't work well for my application. My parking and drive areas are all fill gravel. Lots of areas to clear. Used to take me days of frustration and breakdowns so plowing is way to go go here.

Dont get me wrong HT a plow works best here too. The blower is for clean ups and accessing areas that the is not feasible I have an area for a portion of my drive that there are buildings on both sides. You have to blow forwards and not yo sides. Plus the plow is twice the width

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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/07 10:34:03 (permalink)
Well as I sit here the snow is coming down again!! However this one is going to be a dusting,3 -6". it won't be much but it still is a pain!    
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/07 17:44:25 (permalink)
The big LE stayed north, but could rear throughout the week. Got oil changed and new battery in car. Tire chain back on and took a nap. I'm spent

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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/08 17:05:24 (permalink)
Yesterdays quick hit dropped about 4".  Apparently more snow on the way tonight into tomorrow and again Thursday into Friday.  Old man winter finally decided to show up in the last two weeks.  Lol
Daylight is slowly gaining ground, daylight savings March 14.  
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/08 22:04:44 (permalink)
We've really gained daylight. Can see pretty well at 6:15 am and 5:45 pm.
Sun was bright today. After my last week 7 on Ice , it will be fading sooner than later.
Starting to think peas and garden.
Ordered my chickens for 4/13.

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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/09 12:59:26 (permalink)
Probably 4" down and snowing hard as I type.  Not supposed to move out until this evening so another 2-4" could add to the total.  
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/10 18:00:08 (permalink)
We got about 8 inches last night and more tonight. Gotta love it

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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/10 18:58:25 (permalink)
A weak system passing through tonight, a dusting up to 2" expected.  Perhaps another system coming Sunday.   
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/11 06:31:01 (permalink)
Missed us only a dusting

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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/11 12:26:17 (permalink)
Every other day we get 2-4",it is getting very old,COME ON SPRING I'M READY!!!!!!
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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/24 09:54:58 (permalink)
Saw a sure sign of spring this morning — killdeer. They are ground nesters and only come back when there is no real large threat of significant or long lasting snow. They might get dusted on or have to deal with a dump that lasts 2-3 days. But they are a fairly good bellwether of weather to come.

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Re:Weather thread 2021/02/24 11:08:02 (permalink)
Another 4-5" of heavy concrete like snow fell Monday.  The thrower struggled to shoot this slop so I did most of my driveway the old fashioned way.  
A good melt going on with today's temps in the 40's.  Mud season isn't far behind with the temps climbing over the next week to ten days.
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