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2012/03/25 08:40:57 (permalink)

1st TIME BRAID USER

Putting braid on one of my baitcasters this spring for the first time. Does the braid get tied directly to the lure or is a length of mono/fluoro used to attach the lure to? Seems the braid could be easily spotted and spook any wary fish if attached directly to the lure.
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    FishinGuy
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/25 09:29:18 (permalink)
    I've caught plenty of fish without a leader, but I usually use one unless the waters real murky. Use a uni-uni splice if the braid and leader are similar diameter, or an albright if the leaders a lot thicker than the mainline. Don't forget to put some mono backing on before you put the braid on the reel!!!
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/25 11:40:06 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: FishinGuy

    I've caught plenty of fish without a leader, but I usually use one unless the waters real murky. Use a uni-uni splice if the braid and leader are similar diameter, or an albright if the leaders a lot thicker than the mainline. Don't forget to put some mono backing on before you put the braid on the reel!!!

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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/25 13:59:44 (permalink)
    I would use a fluro leader. It's easy to tie one on and it'll prevent any fish from seeing your line. Fluro also has very good sensitivity as well as abrasion resistance which is good to have if fishing around any cover.
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/25 19:01:08 (permalink)
    i use power pro to a small barrel swivel then fluoro. braid can be very hard to brake. you won't go back to reg. line
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/26 12:51:09 (permalink)
    depends on what your fishing for.musky and pike we tie to a solid wire jerk leader,which is thicker than the line,also we use fluro carbon leader that has a snap,and also 6 strand coated leaders with snap to lure.have no problems catching pike or musky's.these fish need leaders most of the time for break off purposes.we use 80# power pro have had no break offs and very little fraying and beter hooking power.
    post edited by musky bound - 2012/03/26 12:53:57

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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/26 14:28:58 (permalink)
    like musky bound says, it depends on what you are fishing for
    for bass it shouldn't be an issue
    for pike or muskie then a leader is always a good idea
    for cats i use a mono leader after a barrel swivel
    don't think i'd use braid for any other species

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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/26 17:08:11 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: bigbear2010

    like musky bound says, it depends on what you are fishing for
    for bass it shouldn't be an issue
    for pike or muskie then a leader is always a good idea
    for cats i use a mono leader after a barrel swivel
    don't think i'd use braid for any other species




    Only for ski's, bass, pike and cats???
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/26 18:34:44 (permalink)
    I've used it for eyes, carp, and trout already this year, great for throwing light offerings long distance and detecting the lightest bites in current.
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/26 19:42:02 (permalink)
    in clear water or when fishing for toothy fish i always use a leader, either flourocarbon or regular monofilament. i also like to use a leader when fishing with lures that have treble hooks on them. seems like with the braid being that it's so limp when you cast often times the line gets caught up on the hooks as the lures tumbles through the air. if you use a short mono/floro leader this doesn't happen. i just use a uni-uni knot which is a really easy knot to tie when you want to join two lines together.
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/27 22:18:38 (permalink)
    I've caught a bit of everything aside from trout on braid and wasn't using a leader then... I just recently started using a hand made 50lb steel leader and haven't noticed any issues yet...  But prior to the issue was using a slip weight would beat the knot up to the swivel so I just put a small bead under it and no problems with fraying line or anything... I think it's a matter of preference really... Also as stated above make sure you put the equal mono diameter line on a few wraps for backing...
    post edited by Mags00 - 2012/03/27 22:20:04
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/28 09:00:00 (permalink)
    eye's are a pike
    i will not use it for trout or salmon, because i've watched them too many times, see the line and move out of their hold then move back when it goes through
    but hey if you guys wanna use it for everything...more power to you...and more fish for me

    btw: over 70% of the broken rods we see come back to bass pro are from first time braid users, who have used mono for years and get hung up, rip the rod like they do with mono and snap it like a twig because there is no stretch
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/28 10:04:35 (permalink)
    If I'm trout fishing a clear stream, I tie on a long enough leader that the braid stays on top of the water.and the float is attached right by the splice. I don't use it on steelhead. But I have caught many pelletheads on spinners with braid straight to a snap swivel, but usually use a 12-24" flouro leader. Whatever floats your boat right? Eyes are a pike, who knew? I thought pike were pike. I thought eyes were closer to a perch. I've heard them called blue pike or something, but I thought it was just a nickname, not a scientific thing.
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/28 10:13:01 (permalink)
    walleyed pike
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/28 10:47:57 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: bigbear2010

    walleyed pike


    Another debate in the making, this should get interesting!
     
    Golden palomino rainbow trout, perhaps?

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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/28 11:12:20 (permalink)
    lol
    pretty cut and dried i would think
    its the way pa fish commission refers to them as well
    yep palaminos are rainbows....just look at it the next one you catch, you can clearly see the stripes ;)
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/28 17:17:14 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: bigbear2010

    eye's are a pike
    i will not use it for trout or salmon, because i've watched them too many times, see the line and move out of their hold then move back when it goes through
    but hey if you guys wanna use it for everything...more power to you...and more fish for me

    btw: over 70% of the broken rods we see come back to bass pro are from first time braid users, who have used mono for years and get hung up, rip the rod like they do with mono and snap it like a twig because there is no stretch

    Walleye are in the same family as yellow perch, no relation to pike.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walleye
    post edited by mote1977 - 2012/03/29 14:53:07
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/28 19:54:34 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: bigbear2010

    its the way pa fish commission refers to them as well


    Yeah, the same wizards that close most of the water in the state until mid april!

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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/28 23:10:24 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: mote1977


    Pike are in the same family as yellow perch, no relation to pike.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walleye


    Did you mean walleye?

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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/29 00:04:12 (permalink)
    Did you mean walleye?


    I sure hope so lol
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/29 07:40:57 (permalink)
    pike are no relation to pike?!?!
    gee thats good to know
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/29 07:42:56 (permalink)
    bottom line on braid
    use it on agressive fish that don't care if they see the line
    be careful with your rod, because there is no stretch to it
    use it all you want, but i don't except for a few particular situations
    to each his/ her own
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/29 08:06:40 (permalink)
    +1
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/29 09:06:04 (permalink)
    That's why I use it on my Erie perching rods, those things are agressive!

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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/29 12:08:05 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: bigbear2010

    bottom line on braid
    use it on agressive fish that don't care if they see the line
    be careful with your rod, because there is no stretch to it
    use it all you want, but i don't except for a few particular situations
    to each his/ her own

     
    Ever hear of a leader? 
     
    At one time or another I have successfully used braid for just about every species of fish that PA has to offer.  While I do not prefer braid for all applications, it is very versatile and can be utilized with success for just about any style of fishing.  
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/29 15:07:08 (permalink)
    goodie for you

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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/30 13:32:24 (permalink)
    Be careful with hooksets, doesnt need to be that violent with braid, in fact I've broke many fish off at the knot until I figured this out. Also I like to tie a "Trilene knot" with braid (something that wraps around the hook twice). Braid doesnt birdnest as bad on a baitcaster either.
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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/30 15:22:54 (permalink)
    Be careful using braid.
    My left hand has numerous cuts from a fish deciding he wanted to go back in the water after I wrapped the line around my hand pulling it up to the pier.
    PowerPro is very thin with no stretch.
    Hopefully gym tape will keep the saltwater out of my deeper cuts tonight.


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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/30 15:54:05 (permalink)
    +1 on that Marty. Still trying to heal a cut from a snag last weekend.
    BTW ~ electrical tape will seal it up better than athletic.
    ...just don't wrap too tight.

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    RE: 1st TIME BRAID USER 2012/03/30 23:22:07 (permalink)
    I like braid line for some fishing, but prefer good old monofilament for others.
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