Keeping your weights from sliding

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2011/10/24 12:10:39 (permalink)

Keeping your weights from sliding

Started fly fishing a couple years ago again.  I was at 20 mile last week for the first time this year and had a heck of a time keeping my weights where I wanted them, they kept sliding down to my fly.  I use 5x seaguar grand max for a tippet and about every 20 or so casts I would notice my sinkers would slide down.  I tried pinching them tighter and tighter so they would stay but I would just break off at that point on a hookup (I'm sure because I was crushing the line so much).  What you you guys do?  I was thinking about running the line through the weight twice but thought that would probably make a weak spot also.
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    Loomis
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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/24 13:41:30 (permalink)
    I am not sure I ever found a fluorocarbon leader that ever liked split shot.

    Shorter leaders, end split shot above nail knot, use a beadhead or wire under body, fishing really deep use a tungsten bead.


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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/24 13:58:59 (permalink)
    two words..... super glue. works like a charm.

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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/24 14:10:37 (permalink)
    Sinkers with rubber grip insert like this but smaller




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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/24 14:22:03 (permalink)
    What brand shot are you using? some are much softer than others.
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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/24 16:27:50 (permalink)
    many different solutions for this one, but I attach my tippet to my leader with a blood knot. Place your shot above the knot. Problem solved. Also, some may even use a swivel instead of a knot-(heathens!), place your shot above the swivel.

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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/24 18:05:20 (permalink)
    As Loomis mentioned, fluoro has a hard-slippery finish.
    Try an overhand knot around a water gremlin lead type with tabs.
    You can pull the knot loose with a pin,  hookeye cleaner or any thin object.
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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/24 20:36:48 (permalink)
    So simple... slipknot ... 
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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/24 23:49:46 (permalink)
    i use lead match sticks. pinch it down and it rarely slips. i also do what riverbum says and tie on the length of tippet i want and put the lead above the knot.
    swivel on a leader?? might as well throw rooster tails and cleos while your at it!

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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/25 00:30:51 (permalink)
    i use lead match sticks


    this
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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/25 07:22:04 (permalink)
    Blackbird shot is very soft if you pinch just the open end w hemos it kinda wraps the shot around the line,
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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/25 12:16:51 (permalink)
    I have tied an overhand knot in the line. The spilt shot doesn't move past it. I haven't had the line break, yet. Usually, put the spilt shot above the tippet knot I tie on.
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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/25 20:11:28 (permalink)
    I've never found water gremlin to slip so much; but dona's advice with the weight behind the blood knot works like a charm... swivels???? Who cares if anyone thinks its taboo... it definitely will serve your purpose well...
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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/26 09:07:24 (permalink)
    Sometime I step down my leader (i.e. heavier to lighter) utilizing a knot tier which is fairly
    easy and quick and then place the sinker above the knot!

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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/26 09:45:39 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: doubletaper

    i use lead match sticks. pinch it down and it rarely slips. i also do what riverbum says and tie on the length of tippet i want and put the lead above the knot.
    swivel on a leader?? might as well throw rooster tails and cleos while your at it!

     
    Why would you use lead match sticks with a dry fly?

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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/27 10:40:14 (permalink)
    leave extra long tag end when you tie on fly, attach shot to this with the knot technique above...

    this will suspend your offering just off the bottom.  I also do this when running tandems

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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/27 13:34:13 (permalink)
    The best shot is dinsmores egg shot. Stay away from the cushion shot, it slides too much. The plain egg shot doesnt slide.

    I've tried super duex, boss tin, and the other shot made for fly fishing, but nothing compares to the plain dinsmores.
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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/27 14:41:38 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: kylerloveshotdogs

    leave extra long tag end when you tie on fly, attach shot to this with the knot technique above...


     
    HAVE NEVER TRIED THAT.  INTERESTING THOUGH.  I FEEL THAT YOUD LOSE THE SPLIT SHOT EASILY ANYTIME IT GRABBED BOTTOM THOUGH.
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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/27 19:39:37 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: GilliganJR

    ORIGINAL: kylerloveshotdogs

    leave extra long tag end when you tie on fly, attach shot to this with the knot technique above...



    HAVE NEVER TRIED THAT.  INTERESTING THOUGH.  I FEEL THAT YOUD LOSE THE SPLIT SHOT EASILY ANYTIME IT GRABBED BOTTOM THOUGH.


    This is effective in deeper water when you need to go deep, quick. Your suggested set-up is similar to "chuck-n-duck". Never used it on any Erie tribs but quite often in Michigan for Kings. Use of bar lead with parachute casing reduces the snag effect.

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    RE: Keeping your weights from sliding 2011/10/28 09:22:42 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Riverbum

    many different solutions for this one, but I attach my tippet to my leader with a blood knot. Place your shot above the knot. Problem solved.



    Same here! To add..I do not pinch the dinsmores very hard. They have a coating that I believe grips better when not pinched too tight. (and no damage to the line)

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