Where's the smallmouth? 
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Where's the smallmouth?
Just wondering as to the state of smallmouth bass fishing in the rivers of the state.The last few years, in the Juniata, Susky and Clarion Rivers, the bass have about all dissappeared.It's not you can't catch any, but the numbers are so few.How about some of the other rivers? Is the same happening? I know the PFC has been monitoring and regulating the Susky but it seems it is affecting other streams also.How about some other personal observations on these other streams?...WF
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RE: Where's the smallmouth?
2011/08/08 07:55:28
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I've spent this summer exclusively fishing the Mon. The smallmouth population is booming and I catch them in all age classes and a lot of them. I hear people complaining about the quality of the river deteriorating from gas well drilling but I sure don't see it.
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RE: Where's the smallmouth?
2011/08/08 08:12:22
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Just wondering as to the state of smallmouth bass fishing in the rivers of the state.The last few years, in the Juniata, Susky and Clarion Rivers, the bass have about all dissappeared.It's not you can't catch any, but the numbers are so few.How about some of the other rivers? Is the same happening? I know the PFC has been monitoring and regulating the Susky but it seems it is affecting other streams also.How about some other personal observations on these other streams?...WF
Fished the Juniata for bass this past Thursday and two weeks prior to that with the same guy, who happens to frequent the river a lot. He keeps a journal, so he has a counter clicker in his kayak (yep, he is hard core). On the first trip, we caught over 60 between the two of us. There were a few in the 12 to 15 inch age class, one over 15, and the rest were small in the 8 to 10 inch age class. We fished from 9 AM to about 5 PM and it was one of those high temp days with it being in the mid-90's with bright sun. The week I didn't go, he and another angler hit a different section of the river and while they didn't catch as many fish (I don't recall the total), there were about a dozon over 15 inches and he had one, which I have seen the photo of, that was slightly over 20. So last week we headed right to that spot, expecting bigger fish. It had rained the night before, the water temps had dropped a few degrees, there was the slightest hint of color in the water, there was decent cloud cover -- all pointing to a banner day. From 9 AM until 2 PM, he caught two fish, one being about 15 and I had one bite, which I lost the fish, probably from being so surprised that I actually got a bite, but it was pulling fairly good, so I don't think it was in the 8 to 10 inch age class. We did a late lunch and went back at it, at a different location. From about 4 PM until a little after 8 PM, we caught around 40 between the two of us. My friend had two in the 12 to 15 inch age class and I had three that were around 15, plus one that jumped and threw the offering that was well over 15. All others were in the 8 to 10 inch age group. The coolest thing tha happened, however, aside from seeing a mature Bald Eagle, was that while reeling in one of the 8 to 10 inch age group, a muskie shot out of a deep spot and completely swallowed it. I had it on for a few moments, but when it turned, the 8 pound test was easily cut off on the gill cover.
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RE: Where's the smallmouth?
2011/08/08 14:43:06
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ORIGINAL: World Famous
Just wondering as to the state of smallmouth bass fishing in the rivers of the state.The last few years, in the Juniata, Susky and Clarion Rivers, the bass have about all dissappeared.It's not you can't catch any, but the numbers are so few.How about some of the other rivers? Is the same happening? I know the PFC has been monitoring and regulating the Susky but it seems it is affecting other streams also.How about some other personal observations on these other streams?...WF
must be all the sun block and lotion in the clarion river. them darn tubers shouldn't p in the water either!!!
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RE: Where's the smallmouth?
2011/08/09 13:08:15
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I've had good success on the Casselman river, for the most park.
I'm planning on wading the yough the next few weeks, so I'm curious to see how that pans out. There really hasnt been much posted about the yough this year.
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RE: Where's the smallmouth?
2011/08/09 14:18:38
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ORIGINAL: DarDys
ORIGINAL: World Famous
Just wondering as to the state of smallmouth bass fishing in the rivers of the state.The last few years, in the Juniata, Susky and Clarion Rivers, the bass have about all dissappeared.It's not you can't catch any, but the numbers are so few.How about some of the other rivers? Is the same happening? I know the PFC has been monitoring and regulating the Susky but it seems it is affecting other streams also.How about some other personal observations on these other streams?...WF
Fished the Juniata for bass this past Thursday and two weeks prior to that with the same guy, who happens to frequent the river a lot. He keeps a journal, so he has a counter clicker in his kayak (yep, he is hard core). On the first trip, we caught over 60 between the two of us. There were a few in the 12 to 15 inch age class, one over 15, and the rest were small in the 8 to 10 inch age class. We fished from 9 AM to about 5 PM and it was one of those high temp days with it being in the mid-90's with bright sun.
The week I didn't go, he and another angler hit a different section of the river and while they didn't catch as many fish (I don't recall the total), there were about a dozon over 15 inches and he had one, which I have seen the photo of, that was slightly over 20.
So last week we headed right to that spot, expecting bigger fish. It had rained the night before, the water temps had dropped a few degrees, there was the slightest hint of color in the water, there was decent cloud cover -- all pointing to a banner day. From 9 AM until 2 PM, he caught two fish, one being about 15 and I had one bite, which I lost the fish, probably from being so surprised that I actually got a bite, but it was pulling fairly good, so I don't think it was in the 8 to 10 inch age class. We did a late lunch and went back at it, at a different location. From about 4 PM until a little after 8 PM, we caught around 40 between the two of us. My friend had two in the 12 to 15 inch age class and I had three that were around 15, plus one that jumped and threw the offering that was well over 15. All others were in the 8 to 10 inch age group.
The coolest thing tha happened, however, aside from seeing a mature Bald Eagle, was that while reeling in one of the 8 to 10 inch age group, a muskie shot out of a deep spot and completely swallowed it. I had it on for a few moments, but when it turned, the 8 pound test was easily cut off on the gill cover.
how do you know what a banner day is?
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RE: Where's the smallmouth?
2011/08/09 14:32:53
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I know that neither of those were.
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RE: Where's the smallmouth?
2011/08/09 14:49:20
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LoL! I'm just jaggin with ya!
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RE: Where's the smallmouth?
2011/08/09 16:03:40
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I know. I can take a joke. I applaud your efforts to bring it to a different thread. Cudos.
But seriously, those weren't even close to average, let alone banner.
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RE: Where's the small mouth?
2011/08/10 01:36:00
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The Thugs and Goons have caught all the small mouth. Seems to be decent in the upper Allegheny but just not for me the last time out. Midday and water temp in the 80's left my well empty.
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RE: Where's the small mouth?
2011/08/10 07:15:21
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The Thugs and Goons have caught all the small mouth. Seems to be decent in the upper Allegheny but just not for me the last time out. Midday and water temp in the 80's left my well empty.
Whats a thug Or a goon for that matter? Maybe I'm one since I can manage to catch a few out of there
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RE: Where's the small mouth?
2011/08/10 07:48:32
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The Thugs and Goons have caught all the small mouth. Seems to be decent in the upper Allegheny but just not for me the last time out. Midday and water temp in the 80's left my well empty.
Whats a thug Or a goon for that matter? Maybe I'm one since I can manage to catch a few out of there
To qualify for the Thug and Goon Society or T&GS, you must post on the hunting boards and have any disagreement with any real or imagined PGC policy, rule, law, or program and/or be able to display an attitude, visible to only the highly trained person before you even speak that delineates you as "not one of the good guys." What you really want to shoot for Skip is being a dual memebr of the T&GS and the UFA (Ubersnob Flyfishing Association) -- then you really have it going. 
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RE: Where's the small mouth?
2011/08/10 08:17:54
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RE: Where's the small mouth?
2011/08/10 12:07:34
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Applications are being reviewed for both at the One Fly. 
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