Did you forget about me Bings?

Till any of yinz can snag as well as I do....with any rod....

stay 50 ft from my pedestal.....serious.

This is just like the Buffalo Creek forum I had when I started. When asked my methods and they were not fly fishing everybody assumed I was junk. But I can attest that theyre are a lot of guys that spin fish that dont give a dam about fish but the ones that do can get along with almost 95% of the fly fishing guys. YOu have to respect the fish. I have since started fly fishing a lot more frequently and it is more enjoyable in my oppinion but I have no problem with a guy that enjoys the smacks of the lures.
Its just a sensitive subject.
Like the late great Rev. MacLean said: "nobody who did not know how to catch a fish would be allowed to disgrace a fish by catching him"

Disney would have a best selling movie with you guys starring in it!

All I have to say is meet Some of the Members of this board.You will find out that there is some people that are more than willing to give out some tips and end up being someone you are PROUD to call a FRIEND
This only applys to a couple of you all
Hope to hook up in the ANF
 
 

Nice fish in your new profile pic. I wish my brookies could fit.

ORIGINAL: AndyLee

  Can anyone here explain why fly fisherman are such annoying snobs? 

Yes. Making people angry is just as much a part of the fun as anything else. Analogous to the presentation of the fly, it is both elegant and beautiful to observe, complex and dynamic in its delivery, and unmatched in its experience when the target rises to the occasion.

Similar to the fly is the crafting of the burn. It must be subtle in its construction and appear natural. A haphazard or poorly constructed burn will usually be recognized as an imitation and is usually disregarded. No, a fly fishing burn should look like nothing at all. Just a guy standing in a creek trying to catch a fish.

And thats how we get you. We just stand there trying to catch a fish. Cast after cast, working our insidious craft, we needle away at your soul, at your very existence.

Normal people may not understand how or why you are so angry, and may question your sanity. They'll say thing like "Who cares?" and "isn't fishing supposed to be fun?" or "why don't you mind your own business?" but that type of rhetoric is meaningless in the face of a terror which has no name, for they have never witnessed a fly fisherman and his deliberate efforts to pervade the mind and destroy a man from the inside out.

Or maybe they have.....Muahaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

ORIGINAL: bingsbaits

Where do the Pinners fit in Bulldog ?

Only had the flyrod in my hand for a little over a year and been a spin fisherman for over 40 years. Wonder where that leaves me....

Actually I feel much more at home with the spin rod (lots of practice) fly fishing is still new and haven't had much of a chance to cop an attitude yet I guess...


As MSYD said, I to have fished with quite a few members on this board and have not found one that displays anytype of an elitist attitude...

NO sorry bing' somehow you seem like a true blue fly fishermen, now!

anyways, I just have to laugh, I have seen MANY, many things online that made people upset but few "in Person"... sportsman tend to 'get along' that is once they know each other.

that is why I've always preferred meeting and talking to a dude than trying to get to know him, by post.

On the other hand if someone complains about all his "FLY fishing friends" the whole thing defies all my experience AND common sense. thats why I'm calling him out on it.

just as I was saying trout. If you get to know many (but not all) of these guys, the hostility fades, the sportsman within us come out and we act polite.

put us in front of a computer, perhaps a mischievious troll, a few sweeping statements and garbled personal attacks - and the posts go ON and ON (and on and on). and... whats the point? none of this will help or change anything.

If you want to see the Elitest side of fly fishing; google it- its there! but its a far, far cry from everybody who wields a fly rod.


If the threads author really has problems (and isn't the troll I think he is) with his "fly fishing friends" he should take it up with them, and not create sweeping unfair accusations against ALL fly fishermen.

I use a fly AND a spinning rod. I could care less what ANYBODY thinks about how I fish. Life's too short and fishing time is too hard to come by to worry about what other people are doing or thinking.

I didn't mean in this thread. I meant in general.

ORIGINAL: outfortrout

I didn't mean in this thread. I meant in general.

Me 2.

From my experiences I've found that it's fishermen in general who are snobs. More so internet fishermen. They're not so much snobs as backwoods and outdoorsy. You run into the same types of blue collar guys in construction etc, and it's always about who's the bigger man. *Note "Fishermen" Not so much fisherwomen. Fly fishing tends to be picked up by a lot of yuppies too, and you can almost forget about different social groups getting along.

I will say this, if you have a Cabella's fly fishing catalog take a look at the pictures of they're guide team. I find it funny how they're all posed up, shaded out, arms folded, and, seemingly, never smiling. I wanna tell them "It ok guys, you're out on a beautiful river, smile!!!" I wonder if they pose like that to keep up the "cool club" image. Fly fishing is what it is, another type of fishing. It doesn't matter how meticulous you make it out to be. The same thing happens every time a musky rises to a handcrafted bucktail or when a bait runner takes off after a big cat grabs a homemade rig rigged with a creek chub that you trapped the night before.


Smarter, better looking, wealthier... small you know what... The women are only there for the $$$. Don't worry the simpletons will be there to push the Porsche out when it gets stuck down by the creek. I'm just joking of course... I feel the need to clarify on this site anymore...

ORIGINAL: jolie

tull- You too??

but you look so 'yuppee' to be an anti-fly fishermen?

 
Not sure how to respond, I think you missed my sarcasm.  I don't think any type of fisherman is more upity or snootier than another.  I think sometimes folks who don't participate in a certain faction of fishing(or other things) fail to recognize that it is their jealousy that makes others look snobbish.  I'm too down to earth to be a yuppy(and to old), maybe an upper middle class redneck would be more appropriate, but I'm hard to pigeonhole.  Back when I flyfished my flyfishing friends all called me a purist.  I've owned pushbuttons, baitcasters, spinning, baitrunner, fresh and saltwater reels.  My favorite is the one attached to a bowed rod(sans snags).  I think some of my favorite times fishing were alone on a trout stream totally immersed in what I was doing.  I don't do that any more because of the crowds.

In the evolution of fishing, pinners were at the beginning.

Fly fishing, in some respects for some individuals, requires intuitive nature. Some of us combine hardwired, predestined nature of being at the top of the food chain with a hint of art and style to it. The women are surely better looking and smell better after a day on the water.

We all start roll casting eggs and streamers just to catch a fish, much like a spin fisherman does to get his fix of feeling a fish on the other end. We slowly start to put standard names to the hatches fish tend to key on; at times, some latin is thrown in the mix, but a little obsessive if you ask me. We carry film containers on the water, sitting streamside until a mayfly is in our reach... take it home, and try to imitate as best as possible. We TEND to respect the space of others more as bingsbait says. We wear less camo as we realize a drab green will suffice.

Our fingernails are clean (very important to the women and avoiding probable yeast infections).

We trade 12 packs of budweiser for a 6 pack of imported beer and don't mind drinking it at stream temperature.

... most of the time, we fish for wild trout, not just because the fish are better looking like our women, but you tend to run into the less educated, as 7 to 10 inch fish are usually not appealing to the grill. Conservation tends to be in our nature, and the balls of bird nest from one rod is the equivalent to each roll of tippet I carry on the water.

I could go on for hours, but my coffee mug has run dry and I'm having too much fun. Where again do you fish for these stockies? My wife and I could use a good meal.

ORIGINAL: wrighter00

From my experiences I've found that it's fishermen in general who are snobs. More so internet fishermen. They're not so much snobs as backwoods and outdoorsy. You run into the same types of blue collar guys in construction etc, and it's always about who's the bigger man. *Note "Fishermen" Not so much fisherwomen. Fly fishing tends to be picked up by a lot of yuppies too, and you can almost forget about different social groups getting along.

I will say this, if you have a Cabella's fly fishing catalog take a look at the pictures of they're guide team. I find it funny how they're all posed up, shaded out, arms folded, and, seemingly, never smiling. I wanna tell them "It ok guys, you're out on a beautiful river, smile!!!" I wonder if they pose like that to keep up the "cool club" image. Fly fishing is what it is, another type of fishing. It doesn't matter how meticulous you make it out to be. The same thing happens every time a musky rises to a handcrafted bucktail or when a bait runner takes off after a big cat grabs a homemade rig rigged with a creek chub that you trapped the night before.


Smarter, better looking, wealthier... small you know what... The women are only there for the $$$. Don't worry the simpletons will be there to push the Porsche out when it gets stuck down by the creek. I'm just joking of course... I feel the need to clarify on this site anymore...

blank stare from this old man.