Strike Indicators

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/14 19:22:01 (permalink)
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/14 19:51:05 (permalink)
  Don't use em much but don't leave home without some ear plugs.
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/14 21:08:26 (permalink)
Good Thread, I'd like to highlight some good info
 
 
BugGenius: "try very hard to avoid using strike indicators, but when I do need one, I don't use anything fancy, just the little styrofoam slip on ones you can pick up pretty much in any tackle shop.  I have even used the ones you can put the glo sticks in.  They seem to work fine."
 
I am no doubt with you for being a high stickin' fien and not a fan of indicators, but somtimes they are just neccessary, especially (for me anyway) in hard to reach eddies, and somtimes very fast riffles that are about knee deep.  I have gone with the styrofoam floats and had moderate success with them I just hate having to take them off and usually ruin my tippet.
 
Sculpin 14: I like Fish Pimp indicators............I try to avoid the ones that use wooden and plastic sticks, they can tangle up you leader
 
Sclup IMO fish Pimp Indicators are probably the worst thing on the market today, which I have heard they are gone. I too was a fan of them until I realized they are one time use only.  I have had countless numbers of these things pop off when fighting fish, setting hooks and casting, probably why you reap the benefit of finding them everyhwere.  If u did a survey fish pimp would be at the top of this list gauranteed.  I have heard they stopped production of them.  Also, what other designs do they make?? I have only seen the ones with the plastic sugrical tubing as a peg.  Lemme know.
 
Double Taper: "the ones that kjh makes are out of poly yarn. they do sell these in stores and they're great in slower water and drifted unweited or light weithed flies."
 
I have never used a yarn indicator nor have i seen many people use these, but i'd be willing to give them a shot.  Do they screw up your casting?  (like having a leaf on your leader)  It seems these things would catch wind and possibly be a disaster if tangled into...
 
Good Posts' though guys. 

 
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/14 21:40:24 (permalink)
I use the hard foamed ones from Lightning Strike with the pegs. I can't recall ever having a problem with leader tangle but then again I'm rarely false casting constantly or double hauling where I fish. It also helps that you trim or break off the larger portion of peg sticking out once you insert it into the indicator and leave it so there's just enough to pull it back out.

They come in a pretty good variety of sizes. If the water is more on the clear side I'll scale down to one that's the size of a pea.

Although I've only tried them once, I didn't care too much for the yarn indicators.
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/14 21:53:09 (permalink)
loomis, the poly yarn indicators do not mess up your casting at all. roll casting or overhand. they don't get caught in leaves any more than any others. once you catch a few fish though i've had them get water logged and they don't dry very fast. maybe unless you false cast. if you try them carry quite a few and add floatant before using but not much. like i suggest. i have had some of the store bought ones slide down towards the fly and then others i had some so tight i had to take a lot of time to loosen them. i don't know why but most of the time they work fine and don't fall into the water like a dead duck!!!

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/14 22:10:00 (permalink)
You never should have posted this. I can see 500 of these at Trout
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 08:17:43 (permalink)
If I am fishing a deep hole or eddy, I do use a strike indicator and the styrofoam has worked, but I will try some of the indicators mentioned here to see if they work better.  As an aside, I do float fish often and when doing that I usually use the Blackbird phantoms http://www.fishusa.com/Blackbird-Phantom-Floats-by-Redwing-Tackle_p.html?i=40F50922ADCD4382804FCD8F526304CE.  I have never thought of using one on a fly leader.  I would tend to think the float would interfere with the cast, but it might be worth a try.  I also have some very small balsa floats that might work. 

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 08:51:18 (permalink)
I know what you mean. Centerpin floats are amazing devices they really are precision.  I never tried it either but I would be willing to bet they work when your just "lob" casting, i wouldnt false cast with one that could be a downright disaster.  I bought some thill balsa wood floats thare are only about an inch long, inline jig floats like, i have yet to try them but im sure they will work too, good thing I have a week off of school to experiment!! lol
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 09:11:41 (permalink)
I would agree about false casting with a plastic or wooden float...  You might end up with a mess. 

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 11:11:07 (permalink)
Loomis, as for Fish Pimp, I'm not sure if they stopped making them, but I usually loop my leader though the indicator twice, and haven't really had any problem with them flying off, and they still seam to slide nicely on the leader.

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 11:50:44 (permalink)
problem with fishpimps is the coating (blocks the slit)... and material (easily destructed)...
 
 
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 12:19:17 (permalink)
I'm just gonna start using these..........
 
http://www.bitebuzzer.com/
 
 

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 12:28:30 (permalink)
i agree whole-hearted... i only use them when ness...
I have a combo high stick/chezh nymphing style that i use sometimes...
 
but there are times when they will help you catch fish...
 
then i use my yarn
 
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 12:37:46 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Sculpin 14

I'm just gonna start using these..........

http://www.bitebuzzer.com/



 
LMAO!!!
 

 
"It is the most sensitive, feature packed on the market."
 
You mean there's another company that make these dumb things?

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 13:21:04 (permalink)
I take back what I said.  I think those yarn balls make the best indis.  And I also agree, I'd urge more people to not use one at all - it will make you a better fisherman... 
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 13:41:58 (permalink)
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 13:56:23 (permalink)
what about dry-dropper rigs???
 
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 14:12:41 (permalink)
i only started using indicators because the guy who took me steelie fishing for the first time said that's how it's done. after a while i started to feel like i was fishing for carp like the homies'. so i went back to fishing like i fish for trout nymph fishing without an indicator. ~dt

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 14:29:22 (permalink)
I use a foam float that's similar to the yarn floats.  I'll occasionally use the hard plastic ones or the foam floats.  Never seems to make a difference.  Never notice one out fishing the other.
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 14:40:26 (permalink)
i've seen fish on clear days move away even when a lost red/white bobber floats over top of them. that just gave me an idea floating colored bobbers make spookier steelies nervious. but what do i know i've never asked one....

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 15:03:57 (permalink)
so thats just a hairy bobber...
 
huh... hairy bobbers...
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 15:47:11 (permalink)
Hariy bobbers????  That gives me an idea.  What about tying up a HUGE dry fly, something that would look like a dragon fly and then drop your fly off of it?  That might be a pretty neat way to go.
 

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 15:49:32 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Bughawk

Hariy bobbers????  That gives me an idea.  What about tying up a HUGE dry fly, something that would look like a dragon fly and then drop your fly off of it?  That might be a pretty neat way to go.



that would be the dry-dropper method...
 
i have used foam skating flies with nymphs are trailers... worked with marginal success...
post edited by KJH807 - 2007/11/15 15:50:37
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 16:07:36 (permalink)
Have you ever had at steelie the dry fly?  I have seen them occasionally try to eat a small red or orange float on the surface.  I thought it might be neat to put a hook on the float.  Better yet, has anyone ever used a bass popper as a float and then put on a dropper? 

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 16:17:02 (permalink)
I have never caught an Erie steelie on a dry... (someone had a thread on this awhile back)
 
Real steel will most certainly take a foam fly that is skated... so will bronze-backs...
 
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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 16:29:02 (permalink)
i got deer hair caddis,elk hair caddis and grannoms out of bear hair. now i gotta shoot a carribou for a strike indicator!!!

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 18:42:17 (permalink)
earlier, in oct. seen smaller steelies coming out of the water as if going after  emergers. i also seen a few bigger steelheads, in the same area, come up to the surface and slurp down something. there were leaves floating so wether they were going after insects i couldn't determine. i have read that steelhead that have been in the same streams in previous years will adapt to the same creeks food source and feed. thus, stoneflies might be the best dry flies to use. i used both dries and emergers for the steelies i seen feeding. no luck. but i am determined to catch one, one of these days on a dry!!!!   

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 20:24:23 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Bughawk

Hariy bobbers????  That gives me an idea.  What about tying up a HUGE dry fly, something that would look like a dragon fly and then drop your fly off of it?  That might be a pretty neat way to go.


 
In all seriousness,
how about a float that looks like a small leaf?

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 20:58:42 (permalink)
That would work.

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RE: Strike Indicators 2007/11/15 22:09:37 (permalink)
i am with bughawk, i also use the red amnesia at the end of my fly line it works very well for me to see strikes...when i really feel the need to use an indicator i use very very small foam ones that go on your line like a sticker. I have fished with some guys that almost always use a float and do well and swear by it. but no float works the best for me usually

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