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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/18 11:30:06 (permalink)
some people were asking about the arctic fox and tying stinger/intruder-style flies



35mm shank
fire line to VMC octopus hook
eyes
chenielle****br>

Acrtic fox in a dubbing loop
i used a small amount of fox, but the camera adds 10lbs


comb out the under fur
and place in a waxed loop
evenly space the fox


SPIN
after the spin brush out with a toothbrush then a dubbing brush
the brushing will free up any fibers twisted in on the thread...this allows for less bulk and more lenght


fold back and plamer tight to the****br>

3 wraps of stripped schappen
and some ostrich feelers
*** I usually put in a loop of lady amhurst tail fibers here*** but i don't have any good colors for this fly


flat braid body


chanielle bump
and another loop of arctic fox


brush it out


wrap the loop close to the bump
*** I usually put in a loop of lady amhurst tail fibers here*** but i don't have any good colors for this fly
loop of ostrich


spin and wrap the ostrich
*** you can also add some rhea here*** but i'm leaving it out


some hackle tips
a schlappen collar
and you're done




materials and colors change per fly
but i usually stick with the same structure/steps



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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/18 23:05:40 (permalink)
Nice stuff KJH. Good instructions.

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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/21 20:03:20 (permalink)
KJH and Swinger,

Nice flies...heading to the Miramichi in two weeks. No weight, lead, cones, ect allowed on the fly. This is a bit more traditional, but is a good pattern for Atlantics. Ally Shrimp.

Floss and head are a bit off...first fly I've tied in a couple months. Used 6/0...better off with 8/0.

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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/21 20:13:32 (permalink)
Very Nice!....and thanks much for takin the time. Great explanation KJ

"They say you forget your troubles on a trout stream, but that's not quite it..... you begin to see where your troubles fit into the grand scheme of things, and suddenly they're just not such a big deal anymore."

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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/21 22:15:28 (permalink)
REAL NICE JOB FOLKS

I didn't say these are the ten suggestions
signed God
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/22 22:48:16 (permalink)
some ive been working on. I have a theory that fish target eyes of baitfish, so i'm trying big eyes. Also want to give tubes more of a shot this year. Gonna give it it a shot this season. Who knows?



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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/23 20:02:20 (permalink)


By the way, this is possibly the best beer ever!
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/27 22:30:58 (permalink)
[image][/image]
here's a goodie
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/28 09:37:54 (permalink)
OK losers we get it you like beer. Dont we all though? Lets get back to the matter at hand. Here is something that fell out of my head. Might be the first I string on this weekend. Enjoy.






Finn Raccoon zonker wing
ice dub body
hackleflash,hot org teal, org hackle collars
jc eyes
monster cone

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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/28 09:57:03 (permalink)
dig it

i might see you on sunday...



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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/28 10:50:12 (permalink)
Swinger: That thing is sick. Do you have a fly shop you get the Finn Raccoon zonker's from?

Support your local Fly Shop!

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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/28 12:16:39 (permalink)
Hope this offering gets me out of loserville. It's my 1st attempt at a stinger style. Thanks for the tute kjh.
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/28 22:11:57 (permalink)
Well I got off the phone with a buddy of mine and decided to spend some more time at the vice. Had some thinking juice and got to work.



I think the hackle is a tad long or the wing is a tad short. Cant decide which one it is. But I blame it on the juice. Hope you like. Wait a minute. I dont really care if you like it or not. I just hope the fish like it. First the rear view for KJ.



Now the fly.




tail of fox
body 1/2 silver mylar 1/2 seal dub
gold rib
hackle to match dub
flash length of body
Arctic Fox wing tad longer
hackle to match
flash size of wing
AF longer then first wing
longer hackle to match
peacock herl topping
JC eyes
cone

For those of you who dont know, seal dubbing is wonderful. If you get the chance to get some, jump on it.

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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/28 22:20:20 (permalink)
does anyone know where you can get the jungle****cheeks at a decent price, or any cheaper alternatives?
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/29 04:46:10 (permalink)
^
irish angler
not so cheap for the good stuff.
 
I've also been hunting for finn coon in olive and cream.
 
Some nice ties there, guys.
I just picked up some tubes for the first time and cranked out a few flies. Not worthy to post pics as they are crude experimental and futile attempts.
Took em to the stream and realized why weight is needed up front on some. Back to the bench.
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/29 08:20:44 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: DJ2007

does anyone know where you can get the jungle****cheeks at a decent price, or any cheaper alternatives?


ebay
you don't need the best nails for fishing flies
if any are split... use sally hansens to repair
post edited by KJH807 - 2010/09/29 08:21:26



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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/29 08:42:57 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: KJH807

ORIGINAL: DJ2007

does anyone know where you can get the jungle****cheeks at a decent price, or any cheaper alternatives?


ebay
you don't need the best nails for fishing flies
if any are split... use sally hansens to repair


+1

Got a 'fishing grade' JC neck for around $30 a while back. The smaller nails aren't even split. I've never seen a 'top-grade' neck up close, but I was very pleased with what I got.
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/29 12:21:51 (permalink)
i need to work on some hook issues... but they are swimming well





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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/29 16:55:09 (permalink)
I came to the realization that you people are all lushes! Must be the booze that allows for such nice work...

ps - best thing that sruck my interest here is the Great Lakes Lager.
post edited by ShutUpNFish - 2010/09/29 16:56:14
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/29 16:56:14 (permalink)
Like the new flies Swinger. Never messed with the cones yet, I need to get some to try them out.

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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/29 19:28:40 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: ShutUpNFish

I came to the realization that you people are all lushes! Must be the booze that allows for such nice work...

ps - best thing that sruck my interest here is the Great Lakes Lager.



I can recall a picture of some Blue on ice mixed in with a bottle of Crown. Calling the kettle black! LOL

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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/29 21:55:33 (permalink)
THAT weekend is coming up in 2 weeks! Oh by the way, I never said that I wouldn't fit right in! LOL
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/30 09:23:01 (permalink)
Dano, what are you using for tubing? A tube combo that works very well for me is size small Frodin FITS combined with Eumer x small. Frodin serves as the junction tubing and will accept a size 6 or 8 straight eye egg hook. Eumer x small will take a small or medium standard cone. Ream out the Frodin with a hook eye, shove the Eumer into the Frodin about 3/16 of an inch, wrap over the connection 3 or 4 times with 8/0 thread, coat with head cement or super glue. Melt a small flange on the hook end of your tube, ream it out with a size 6 hook. Doing this reinforces the hook connection, preventing the tubing from splitting. Cones, plated hour glass eyes, bead chain, all work well for front weighting tube flies. Swinger gave me a size 2 tapered blind eye hook to tie the tubes on. Works great, fits in a conventional vise. No need for a tube vise, adaptor, tapered needles, etc.

Frodin FITS tubing - Fly fish USA or Irish Angler
Eumer tubing - Mad river outfitters
Irish Angler - Cones sized to fit Frodin x small, small tubing. They work well with same size Eumer tubing.
post edited by Plum Bob - 2010/09/30 18:33:18
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/30 12:57:33 (permalink)
Ream out the Frodin with a hook eye, shove the Eumer into the Frodin about 3/8 of an inch, wrap over the connection 3 or 4 times with 8/0 thread, coat with head cement or super glue. Melt a small flange on the hook end of your tube, ream it out with a size 6 hook.


And non-fly tyers think I'm overcomplicating things by starting with a bare hook.
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/30 18:44:36 (permalink)
Preparing tubes for tying this way sounds a lot more complicated than it actually is.
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/30 19:40:36 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Plum Bob

Preparing tubes for tying this way sounds a lot more complicated than it actually is.




Bob will be 103 yrs old in May. He has no problems figuring it out. But honestly once you get into it it is easy as 1 2 3.

Bob,
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/30 20:13:09 (permalink)
Sounds good Barry, See ya at the rest home tomorrow eve. Don't come before dinner, need my instant potatoes and creamed spinach.
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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/30 21:06:25 (permalink)
Another for the Miramichi. I think it might work for steel too.




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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/30 21:29:47 (permalink)
really nice looking fly eric
when are you going?



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RE: steelhead flies '10 2010/09/30 21:31:13 (permalink)
That fly would most definately work locally, or anywhere else, for steelhead, as would the Ally's shrimp. The Ally's shrimp variation, the Cascade, is as highly regarded in eastern Canada as the Ally's shrimp. Have you ever tried a Cascade for atlantics? If so, curious to know if it has produced for you, certainly worth a try on erie "steelbows". Couple nice flies you posted.
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