Loomis
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Lower Back Pain While Fishing
Anybody experience any lower back pain while fishing? Obviously a little wear and tear from standing on uneven stream bottoms all day is expected, but anything above the ordinary? I wrestle and workout a decent amount, so I know my back is in decent shape, but my lower back/hips were so stiff and sore this Saturday that I couldn't take it anymore. I see the chiropractor on a regular basis as well, and it helps out, but I still get the shooting pain and soreness when I go fishing and it's really cutting into my enjoyment on the stream. I was thinking of getting a back support belt, or something similar, but I was just wondering if some of you fellas have with a similar problem ever took the next step for this (IE getting fitted for orthodic soles for your wading shoe) and have experienced this issue before. Im thinking it could be something with sciatica or a poriformis muscle strain, but im too young to be taken out from lower back pain at this stage in the game..
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 10:52:55
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yep all the time move around alittle when you feel it start, i find bowing foreward gives the most relieving stretch
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 11:06:00
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I get the lower back pain also. The last time I went fishing with my son inlaw and his friend I saw them putting on the type of support belts worn by workers in Home Depot and other stores. They said this type of belt helps prevent the back pain. I don't know where you get that kind of belt, but I am looking for one.
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 11:41:07
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loomis, i found no exercise or yoga to prevent this. the safety belt works but is confining, especially bending to retrieve caught fish or during hot days. i think it comes with age i take a couple of tylinal before i fish. this usually lasts 4-6 hours (the tylinal not the fishing ) it seams that if i'm catching fish it doesn't bother me that much, maybe because i'm shifting my weight and bending more often to release fish.
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 11:43:20
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I've had some major back problems in the last couple of years. Long story, something about not supposed to carry 400 pound outboards by myself , but I can tell you that exercise has helped me out a ton. That and moving the wallet to the front pocket. I know that your question is more related to standing in a stream than prior injury, but it may help. Sit ups, leg lifts, all the standard lower back exercises. It's helped my posture as well. I'll share a copy of my list from PT if you're interested...
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 11:57:57
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Ditto, Bulldog. I've had lots of back problems. Stretching every morning for 10 minutes does wonders. I have 5 or 6 stretches that I do and they really seem to work. Also, I would say that properly hydrating and preventing dehydration will help. Lots of water. I take glucosamine/chondroitin/MSM supplement that also helps.
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 12:03:31
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See that's the thing I don't understand....I exercise enough to keep me strong, but when I say the pain was bad this weekend it is worse than it ever has been....that's why I was thinking the problem was with my feet, high arches or something. But im glad to see im not alone. Stretching is also very important, and I do a ton of that as well, actually really flexible for my size of guy from doing the jiu jitsu/judo thing. Back feels great while im working out, but if im standing or sitting down all day, that's when it really hits.
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 12:31:14
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I've had the lower back pain also from casting all day...I find myself leaning forward when i'm fishing with intent...after a couple of hours my back is killing me... I've found that if I bend my knees slightly - this keeps my back straight - and it takes the weight of my torso off of my lower back and hips...also if i wade in deep enough (if possible) - just above my hips..you get some flotation and squeeze effect from your waders that takes pressure off of your back also... Tried the "lifting/support belt" and it didnt work...I try to remember to keep my back strait and bend my knees...this keeps everything straight...just like when you are shooting - or up to bat hitting a baseball... Keeping hydrated is also important as well as keeping fit...at 42 its a struggle but I work at it all year for the first few weeks of october...when I need to be on...
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 12:36:40
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As others have said, exercises and stretching targeted at the lower back will help... one other thing I have taken to doing if it's going to be a long day (especially if cold at all) is spend the money to get the therma-care heat wraps for your lower back. I don't want to spend that kind of money every day I go out but sometimes can really make a difference. Routine breaks where you can sit down on the ground and do some easy stretching to take the strain off for a few minutes may make the difference over a long day also. Do some checking into problems with the sacro-iliac joint (SI joint) and see if the problems you find described sound like what you are having and direct your exercises toward that....
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 12:59:39
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I mysteriously obtained a Hodgemans Wading Belt after the One Fly.. no idea how it got to my campground or if I was just to drunk and won it as a door prize... it's exactly what you people are talking about though.
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 13:21:02
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I'd say stretching would help the most. Hottubs work great to losen up tight muscles after along day. Also inversion tables work great for relieving pressure in the lower back
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 13:25:54
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Try a chemical heat pad that sticks on back. Cold=pain
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 13:34:24
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For muscle pain - heat is the best. for disc/joint/spinal issues - heat is the worst thing you can do.
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 13:35:45
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I read this on my way out the door to the doctor's, so I asked her about it. She's a flyfisherwoman, too. She basically reiterated everything that's been said here. The cold water tightens your muscles. Wading on uneven stream beds, slipping (and the abrupt actions we make to prevent falling), and standing all day make for some taxing forces on constricted muscles. From personal experience, she recommends lying on a heating pad or a hot shower as soon you get back...to avoid the discomfort before it starts.
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 14:44:19
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ORIGINAL: D-nymph For muscle pain - heat is the best. for disc/joint/spinal issues - heat is the worst thing you can do. Are you sure of this? I've bulged a few discs on a few occasions, and the first thing the PT has always given me was heat. Are they "mis-treating" me?
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 15:03:23
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I have the same problem and wear a back support, like the workers wear. Makes a definite difference. You got to think how hard your core muscles are working to stabilize you against the current and the uneven bottom. It's fatigue. I know you are flexible but, for me, if my hams tighten, then my back starts to hurt. Keep stretching and moving... MO
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 15:08:16
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ORIGINAL: Mr.Slickfish ORIGINAL: D-nymph For muscle pain - heat is the best. for disc/joint/spinal issues - heat is the worst thing you can do. Are you sure of this? I've bulged a few discs on a few occasions, and the first thing the PT has always given me was heat. Are they "mis-treating" me? I have a bulged disk right now. PT and Chiro both told me ice only, for back problems, that are not muscle related. They were both emphatic about it. The pain you feel from disk bulges is caused by swelling pressing on the sciatic nerve. Ice reduces swelling, heat does not. What heat does do, and why it's good for achey muscles, it loosens muscles up to aid in stretching. But it (heat) does nothing to reduce swelling. The PT is probably using a sonogram type of machine on you to help loosen you up prior to stretching, right?
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 15:31:51
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I've been on "the rack" (traction), had sonagram treatment (it's a boy), had both heat and ice. The only thing that has consistently helped is exercise and massage. Of course the massage part coulda been the young woman doing the massaging
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 15:38:28
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Loomis, I have severe back problems and the belts work well. I have a full abdominal support that I got from a hospital supply store. If you have a history of "contact Sports" then it is possible that you could have some sciatic shifting or calcium buioldup in the lower back. Stretching, back brace, heat/cold/heat alternatvies and pain pills. Also try reducing the amount of time you spend on the other sports activities and see if that helps. Aleve x 2 1 hour before fishing. Back brace afterward.
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 15:43:17
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Ice helps reduce pain and inflamation and can help the healing process. If you are in pain, ice is most likely the best thing for you. you cant go wrong with ice. Heat on the otherhand loosens up tight muscles and gives temporary relief. I am an athlete and am always beating up my body, ice and aleve usually do the trick for me. I work in a rehab hospital and am an exercise science major right now and imo ice would most likely be the best for you, although heat can also do wonders if used correctly for the right thing.
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 15:46:34
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I used to have a lot of lower back pain . Due to not properly lifting at work and especially maintaining "poor" posture . If you find yourself slouching in a chair or behind the wheel alot try to change your bad habits in posture . It sure has helped me it takes about four hours of standing before I start to get pain . Unless the fish are hitting really good then the pain stays away . A woman at home with strong hands will only benefit your situation
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 16:00:38
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but what do you do for lower back palin?
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 16:01:45
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ORIGINAL: Dream Catcher A woman at home with strong hands will only benefit your situation The tall, older, good looking blonde (sometimes brunette) woman at the Avonia Tavern can work wonders for you. She's better than I chiropractor and much more fun.
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 16:28:30
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ORIGINAL: The Tuna ORIGINAL: Dream Catcher A woman at home with strong hands will only benefit your situation The tall, older, good looking blonde (sometimes brunette) woman at the Avonia Tavern can work wonders for you. She's better than I chiropractor and much more fun. happy ending?
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 17:05:41
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Semi-Rigid Back Brace. One with a good abdominal support/cinching. I like the ones with side pull where you can cinch up real tight. They're expensive and I got mine through a doctors prescription under my insurance. You got some good advice, already. Watch your beer consumption. The common beer gut is a killer on a bad back. Try not to stand in one position too long. Stand erect with your feet shoulder width apart and knees slightly flexed. A lumbar pack works better (for me) than a vest or chest pack. Moderate stretching. BTW, tight hamstrings also contribute to lower back pain. There's a lot of good info on the internet for back and ab stretching & strengthening. If the pain becomes chronic, see a specialist.
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 17:10:19
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The common beer gut is a killer on a bad back. though not an issue with you at your age, a big belly can mean a bad back, without a doubt. i have been wearing waders for over 35 years and i notice each year i feel a little worse when fishing. i now carry a stool for those days when the dampness creeps into my back. makes putting on and taking off waders a bit easier. early and late season are the worse.
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 17:20:29
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Custom soles work wonders. Trust me on that.
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 18:01:54
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As Wilber 83 said, slightly bending your knees takes the strain off your lower back. Hard to remember to do this but it will help. Also the ice at 20 min. intervals[ no longer] the first day of pain then heat after that ,to increase lympph flow,will help reduce the swelling that causes the pain. Also any anti inflammatory,ALEVE or generic equal will be helpful.....WF
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 18:05:38
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Excedrin back and body ache works wonders. Been laying brick for 39 years, last year I hurt my back pretty bad the excedrin helped alot. I went to a few chiropractors, one hurt my neCk and my ear has been ringing for 15 years now. I say stay away from them.(IMO)
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RE: Lower Back Pain While Fishing
2010/04/12 18:56:52
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ORIGINAL: Loomis ...but I was just wondering if some of you fellas have with a similar problem ever took the next step for this (IE getting fitted for orthodic soles for your wading shoe) and have experienced this issue before. Loomis - that's exactly what I did this year but they were not fitted soles - instead I got the ones that you can buy at any drug store and I can tell ya that they have made a big difference in the amount of time I can spend on the water. First time I tried them was the end of March when I was on the tribs and, as we all did this spring, covered alot of miles. Although the back did feel it the next morning - it didn't bother me as much during the day as it normally would have. Might be worth a try for ya.
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