new license problems ---

Did he have any comments on the positives from the program?

He did mention that with the same number as fishing license and everything on computer..etc
that he can get info easier..
 
where it was bought, when it was bought, even what time it was bought..
 
he likes the fact that to some degree it is water prove..
 
He did WARN us NOT to let it (the license) sit in the direct sunlight...   it will turn BLACK !!!
 
He did mention he personally does not like the idea about not displaying the license at all (maybe next year if bill passes) He said what I said.. with not visible tag he will have to ask ever single person he sees to pull out that wallet and show him the license...  He stated that when he check folks if everything appears to be fine he does NOT always make them pull out the license etc.. he sees the license, doe tag etc and many time (if it is a group)will not ask all of them to pull out the license and ID...
 
He hopes that with harvest reporting being done by computer (on-line) he hopes the reporting rate increases but will hold judgement on that until he sees the results
 
We had a larger than usual crowd and many of the landowners had questions on trespassing and the PGC 's role in enforcing that and wanted to know their liability if they allowed someone to hunt and something happens.. can they be sued...
Not being a lawyer he could not answer the liability question to well and suggested that we may be able to get a judge or lawyer to address the club on that point.. LOTS of concern on the liability issue and a couple folks said well --if we are not completely free from a law suit if someone shoots someone they were joining the group and posting their land this year... WOW.. just what we need around here more posted land ..
 
He also mentioned that just because a piece of ground is not posted that does not mean you can hunt there without permission...
 
One thing that almost no one knew was on state game lands safety zones are not in effect...
 
He spent some time explaining some of the differences between Mentored youth hunters and junior hunters...
 
The group was very respectful and the meeting was a long one (almost 2 hours)... questions on spotlighting, baiting, one guy want to know if he could pick leeks on SGL (NO)...Flo orange questions... and many more..
 

ORIGINAL: Mr.Slickfish

Note on the new license.....they don't fit snugly into the old license holders...and can easily fall out of the holder. My buddy lost two, now its glued shut.

Had the same issue.. not only don't they fit snugly but they're also somewhat "plasticy" and tend to slide easily across the plastic window in the license holder...

Claypool, I understand what you are saying, but would not recommend it to anyone. Find the wrong officer and that will be a ticket no questions asked. Happened to a bud of mine in our goose blind two years ago. He had it in his backpack and produced it immediately. Didn't matter and resulted in a real quick fine.

ORIGINAL: griffon

Claypool, I understand what you are saying, but would not recommend it to anyone. Find the wrong officer and that will be a ticket no questions asked. Happened to a bud of mine in our goose blind two years ago. He had it in his backpack and produced it immediately. Didn't matter and resulted in a real quick fine.

Could you imagine if ALL pa. law enforcement enforced to the letter of the law? Just think, getting ticketed for 66 in a 65, or getting ticket for not coming to a complete (one potato, two potato) stop making a right on red? Man- Pa. would be able lower our state income tax rate!!

Does anyone know how much fine revenue generated by the PGC goes to the PGC?

yea they have only been toying with the new computor deal for 4 or 5 years I'm sure another 8 or 9 years might give them enough time for it to run smooth

can you get your hunting license online like a fishing license... and just print it out at home, because then you could make as many copies as you want without having to pay the replacement fee.

ORIGINAL: Blowchowski

ORIGINAL: griffon

Claypool, I understand what you are saying, but would not recommend it to anyone. Find the wrong officer and that will be a ticket no questions asked. Happened to a bud of mine in our goose blind two years ago. He had it in his backpack and produced it immediately. Didn't matter and resulted in a real quick fine.

Could you imagine if ALL pa. law enforcement enforced to the letter of the law? Just think, getting ticketed for 66 in a 65, or getting ticket for not coming to a complete (one potato, two potato) stop making a right on red? Man- Pa. would be able lower our state income tax rate!!

Does anyone know how much fine revenue generated by the PGC goes to the PGC?

 
Blow...just so you know, they are still holding to the letter of the law as far as speeding goes.  Using radar state boys can't nail you unless you are doing more than 5 mph over the limit (and most seem to give you up to 9 mph over on the interstates and limited access highways unless it is a construction zone) and local boys using vascar or other timing devices can't nail you unless you are doing at least 10 mph over the limit unless you are in a school zone or construction zone.  It is actually written into the PA statutes that way. 
 
As far as the license goes, I believe the intent is to switch over to the "no display" eventually when the law gets passed but for now, it still has to be displayed.  I don't mind much either way.  Was kind of nice down in Texas not having to display the fishing license and their hunting license is the same way.  But then again, tresspassing and poaching aren't looked upon too kindly down there and you'll find yourseld locked up in the pokey (lucky) or shot by the landowner if you get caught. 

I usualy just put a piece of duct tape over the opening so that you can open it & then reclose it if you need to.Been doing that for years,also I put the license in a clear baggie before putting it in the holder cause It keeps it waterproof. If you want to use a fishing license holder, just replace that pin with the old one from your old style holder.  sam

Have you noticed the line you have to fill out on the doe tags about what WMU you killed the deer in? It's right below where the WMU is printed on the license. Wonder how many will write in a different WMU number than the license if for?

ORIGINAL: heyiknowyou

hahaha, deer really killed in 2b... deer reported killed in 3d

As if that doesn't happen enough already with the bucks.

I hear storis like this all the time from 2B---> "Man I swear he had 4 points on a side when I shot, oh well I will just tag him for up camp"

I would be willing to bet if I dropped a handful of names (which I won't) you would know the exact scums and their common infractions they are famous for. There isn't much anyone can do unless they would catch one of these guys in the act, here-say will never be prosecuted.

On another topic Ironhed, I can remember you spinning hundreds of flies in the back room of my favorite local shop. Do you still do any work for them down there? I also run into some of your fishing buddies from time to time. Although I am not sure I would admit to them being my friends.

ORIGINAL: Blowchowski

eyesandgillz, thats good info.
I was looking for the legislation at http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/session.cfm and nothing came up.

I look forward to the day I can stick the thing in my wallet. Oh the hours I've spent looking for that thing over the years.....

Found it.

Now then, can someone translate?


http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/Legis/PN/Public/btCheck.cfm?txtType=PDF&sessYr=2009&sessInd=0&billBody=H&billTyp=B&billNbr=0460&pn=0504

Blaze Just put a piece of duct tape on the over flap and you'll be fine!!!!!!!!!!! As soon as i got my license put in the holder i have had for like 20/30 years. Seen it was a little lose and thought to myself ( self better put a peice of tape on that) Have  not a single problem and I have hepled a friend look for a deer and of coarse it had to go in the NASTY bush never pulled off like some people have had. But then again you have look at the fishing license holder and think this can not with stand brush and red rose bushes or my climber stand can you???????????