Another Game law test

Author
MuskyMastr
Pro Angler
  • Total Posts : 3032
  • Reward points: 0
  • Joined: 2005/06/30 17:39:29
  • Location: Valley of the Crazy Woman
  • Status: offline
2009/09/25 00:02:21 (permalink)

Another Game law test

Ok here is another one since we seem to be on the game law questions.... It is 11 PM. A game warden pulls up behind my vehicle as I am putting on my hunting gear and heading out into the woods with my bow, arrows unnocked. Can I be cited?

Better too far back, than too far forward.
#1

18 Replies Related Threads

    Over the Hill
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 2382
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2007/03/28 20:54:23
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/25 00:18:33 (permalink)
    What are you hunting for?

    OVER THE HILL

    Some people are like slinky's; not really good for anything, but, they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs...
    #2
    DanesDad
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 3087
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2005/03/21 15:35:43
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/25 00:38:58 (permalink)
    at 11PM?
    #3
    kevinupp
    Expert Angler
    • Total Posts : 606
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2001/09/22 17:41:54
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/25 07:32:42 (permalink)
    If you don't have a furtakers license you're gonna have a lot of explaining to do.

    More than a million trees a year die to print environmentalist publications.
    #4
    270wbmag
    Expert Angler
    • Total Posts : 347
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/19 11:23:40
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/25 09:13:35 (permalink)
    there is no law that says when you can go to your stand, could cite you, as they can for anything, but never hold up in court, they can't assume you are going to poach....but 11 pm, would be on side of "what the h..is he doing..
    #5
    BIGSLICK
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 1867
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2008/05/15 10:03:58
    • Location: Girard
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/25 12:38:44 (permalink)
    IF you were pursuing wounded game that obviously wouldn't be a problem, but I see your point...What's the difference if you go poach at 11pm or 4 am??? Still Dark????



    #6
    griffon
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 1104
    • Reward points: 0
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/25 12:58:15 (permalink)
    I would take the other side of this and say that you would be ticketed and it would hold up.  The sticking point is that you have to be out of the woods by a certain time.  I would interpret that to mean that you could not reenter the woods until the following day which would be anytime after midnight...
    #7
    Pork
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 1419
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/05/04 11:06:26
    • Location: NWPA
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/25 13:10:07 (permalink)
    I'd think if you had your furtakers license and were after say, coons or coyotes with the bow you'd be ok?....might be fun to stick possums with arrows too.

    "If you ever get hit with a bucket of fish, be sure to close your eyes." ><)))*>
    #8
    270wbmag
    Expert Angler
    • Total Posts : 347
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/19 11:23:40
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/25 14:47:51 (permalink)
    griffon, you want to point me to where it says not allowed in woods after midnight???..how about first day of buck season, guys in their stands at 5 am, same with archery..no such law unless you can show me section and title..sorry dude..what section would he be ticketed for.."too early to be in woods"   early entry into woods, no such laws. or show me please..if i wanted to go sit in a blind all night, thats my business, as long as i don't make an attempt to shoot an animal before legal shooting hours,,how about pitching a tent in the woods, bow/gun is with you..against the law????  
    #9
    griffon
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 1104
    • Reward points: 0
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/25 14:51:03 (permalink)
    You need to reread my post...
    #10
    270wbmag
    Expert Angler
    • Total Posts : 347
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/19 11:23:40
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/25 16:35:04 (permalink)
    just did,  you said  couldn't re enter  woods to next day, show me section of that law..show me anything that states i can not sit in a blind all night..
    #11
    gary3414
    Novice Angler
    • Total Posts : 70
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/19 14:56:13
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/26 06:48:49 (permalink)
    I want to see where you have to be out of the woods by a certain time other than spring turkey. I go at 3 or 4 am to duck hunt never been bothered.
    #12
    Wally Cat
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 1073
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2002/03/27 17:56:56
    • Location: Scottdale, PA
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/26 08:31:23 (permalink)
    Coyote hunting would be OK even without a fur takers permit. Going after a wounded animal after legal hunting hours would be questionable. Going to your stand or camping area deep into the woods would be questionable at that time - might have to prove to the officer your intent. If it were a bright moonlit night after the leaves have fallen I'd think you were trying to poach and so would he.

    Would be a toss up as to weather you would be cited and then if it would hold up in court. Your explanation of what you were doing would mean a lot. You did not mention anything about carrying a light or night vision equipment. Unless you have some logical explanation, what you are doing doesn't make any sense.

    Was that the purpose of your post, just to strike a response from the readers?

    Enjoy Life, Be Happy, Go Fish - Often!

    "God has blessed America - may He continue to do so, even though we are not worthy of it".
    Author..... Wally Cat
    #13
    270wbmag
    Expert Angler
    • Total Posts : 347
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/19 11:23:40
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/26 17:58:33 (permalink)
    agree with you wally, some of these guys put crap on here then never to be heard from again as soon as some one calls them on it..why put it on if you can't back up what you say. griffon prime example, and pasurfer another one..if you can't prove what you say, then don't post..
    #14
    griffon
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 1104
    • Reward points: 0
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/26 18:19:17 (permalink)
    Actually, 270 to your point... the bill (and for one reason or another I thought it had been put into law, but cannot find it in the PA Codes) was put in front of the PA legisture that you could not be in the woods past 1 hour after closing hours. After discussing this with a CO, I was informed that the bill was repealed as it was too difficult to enforce and there were too many loopholes. I have to go butcher a deer now, have a nice day.
    #15
    MuskyMastr
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 3032
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2005/06/30 17:39:29
    • Location: Valley of the Crazy Woman
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/29 03:35:08 (permalink)
    I posted the question to prove a point. There is no law that says when I must be out of the woods with my bow, or what time I can go in for that matter. If I want to sit in my stand for 4 hours prior to shooting light to let things settle down I am perfectly legal to do so.

    I have however seen WCO's try to write people up for what time they left the woods. In the end they were just trying to badger hunters into admitting to something they hadn't done.


    If I sit with an arrow nocked past legal shooting time for deer, then I am coyote hunting, with the furtakers license. Or I un nock my arrow and hang out till daylight.

    Better too far back, than too far forward.
    #16
    Wayniac
    Avid Angler
    • Total Posts : 115
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/09/15 09:40:56
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/29 11:53:15 (permalink)
    I stay in the woods sometimes 2 hours after it gets dark cause I dont want to scare deer that are under my stand.
     
    As far as going after a wounded deer, You are still not allowed to shoot it again if you find it still alive in the dark. If you have a light and shoot the animal again that is poaching. It doesn't make perfect sense, but I guess everyone would be looking for wounded deer at night if you were allowed to finish them off with a light and bow or gun at night. (this is how I understand the law) correct me if I'm wrong.
    #17
    Dr. Trout
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 4417
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2002/03/03 03:12:33
    • Location: Jefferson County (2F)
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/29 14:30:26 (permalink)
    you are pretty much correct....
     
    here's what I was told ----
     
    when you notify your WCO or regional office  of the  "looking for my deer" after legal shooting hours situation .. you are to FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS given to you BY THEM...
     
     
    as for the two hours so you "don't scare deer" ... you'll have to explain that if stopped on the way out...
    and then it's up to the WCO if he thinks you were "hunting"
     
     
    #18
    gary3414
    Novice Angler
    • Total Posts : 70
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/19 14:56:13
    • Status: offline
    RE: Another Game law test 2009/09/30 15:02:25 (permalink)
    What a WCO thinks and can prove are not always the same. 
    #19
    Jump to: