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2009/09/22 10:56:06 (permalink)

Do you know this game law????

without doing research, are you allowed to hunt coyotes in archery season with a rifle/shotgun with a regular hunting license..??
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    Pork
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/22 10:59:41 (permalink)
    I think so...provided you have a fur bearers license?

    I'm no 'yote hunter, so just stabbing in the dark here.

    "If you ever get hit with a bucket of fish, be sure to close your eyes." ><)))*>
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/22 11:12:53 (permalink)
    Looks like the answer to that would be no, unless you have a furtaker's license.

    Coyotes: (Statewide) - No Closed Season. Outside of any deer or bear sea-
    son may be taken with a hunting license or a furtaker’s license and without
    wearing orange.

    (During Any Archery Deer Season) - May be taken while lawfully hunt-
    ing deer, or with a furtaker’s license.

    (During The Regular Firearms Deer Season and Any Bear Season) -
    May be taken while lawfully hunting deer or bear, or with a furtaker’s li-
    cense while wearing 250 square inches of daylight fluorescent orange-col-
    ored material visible in a 360-degree arc.

    (During Spring Gobbler Season) - May be taken by persons who have a
    valid tag and follow shot size requirements.

    Need a furtaker license to trap coyotes.

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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/22 13:00:18 (permalink)
    Need a furtaker license is my understanding also.
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/22 14:57:10 (permalink)
    thats correct, you MUST HAVE A FURTAKERS LICENSE//// ...LOTS OF HUNTERS DID NOT KNOW THIS WHEN I ASKED THEM..I WAS ALSO  TOLD BY WCO, THAT IN NOVEMBER TURKEY, YOU COULD SHOOT COYOTES IF YOU HAVE A VALID FALL TURKEY TAG..OR FURTAKER LICENSE..
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/22 16:03:57 (permalink)
    Oops, sorry 270. Didn't realize you were throwing it out there as a quiz. I cheated.

    You been hanging out with Dr. Trout again?
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/22 17:07:38 (permalink)
    doesn't it say "while lawfully hunting deer,,or,,,with a furtakers license?
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/22 17:29:12 (permalink)
    you can hunt coyotes every day of the year with a furtakers or during deer season with a valid deer tag.
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/22 18:03:44 (permalink)
    Coyotes: (Statewide) - No Closed Season. Outside of any deer or bear sea-
    son may be taken with a hunting license or a furtaker’s license and without
    wearing orange

     
    doens't this say all you need is a hunting license or furtakers?,,if this is taken right from the book.
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/22 20:50:36 (permalink)
    ROTFLMAO...

    Gone one day and 270 posts BS......

    I feel sorry for folks reading this board from now on ....

    MY last correction --- I will not be back.

    270 and his buddies  are ... WRONG  AS USUAL -------

    coyotes ----

    NO CLOSED SEASON... You can hunt them anytime.. there are special rules (not realy exceptions.)

    but there are limits during bear and deer seasons.. check your digest..



    GHEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ...

    BYE !!!
    post edited by Dr. Trout - 2009/09/22 21:04:29
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 07:08:09 (permalink)
    how are we wrong, ??????  doc????...read the question, for example, week one archery, I can not hunt coyotes with a regular hunting license with a  gun...fact...what point are you saying i am wrong..because i have researched this with regional office and wco's..don't hibernate yet..how is bull crap to save some on a fine for not knowing this law,,asked one wco/landmanager last year and she did not know the law..fact...You must have a furtakers license if not lawfully hunting deer in archery season, what is wrong about that..read the digest yourself..
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 07:31:37 (permalink)
    OK Doc, I'll try.....

    Coyotes: (Statewide) - No Closed Season. Outside of any deer or bear sea-
    son
    may be taken with a hunting license or a furtaker’s license and without
    wearing orange.

    ^ Meaning, provided it's not deer or bear season you can kill a coyote with a regular hunting license OR a furtaker's license while not wearing orange.

    (During Any Archery Deer Season) - May be taken while lawfully hunt-
    ing deer, or with a furtaker’s license.


    ^ Meaning, if you're lawfully hunting deer via archery you can kill them with your bow & arrow.
    -If you want to use your gun, you need a furtaker's license.
    (No orange required because it's not required for archery or coyote.)

    (During The Regular Firearms Deer Season and Any Bear Season) -
    May be taken while lawfully hunting deer or bear, or with a furtaker’s li-
    cense while wearing 250 square inches of daylight fluorescent orange-col-
    ored material visible in a 360-degree arc.

    ^ Meaning, if you're hunting deer or bear, you can shoot a coyote.
    -If not hunting deer or bear, you need a furtaker's license.
    (Either way you need your 250 orange because it's required for deer or bear in firearms season.)


    (During Spring Gobbler Season) - May be taken by persons who have a
    valid tag and follow shot size requirements.

    ^ Meaning, if you have a valid spring gobbler tag and are following shot size requirements, you can kill a coyote.
    (I would assume you need to follow the orange requirements for spring gobbler in the area you're hunting here.)


    Now Doc, please tell me how "we're" wrong on this one.

    I clearly said in the first reply: I think you're allowed to hunt 'yotes with a gun in archery provided you have a furtaker's license....and I'm wrong??

    -Read your digest
    -Email your WCO buddy (I'm sure he's awaiting your next correspondence with bated breath)
    -Read your digest again
    -Compare with what I've outlined with explanations above
    -Check your email so you can get the reply from your WCO buddy telling you you're wrong.

    And then, after all that, come back on here & let us know YOU were in fact wrong AGAIN.

    I like it when you do that.
    post edited by Pork - 2009/09/23 07:36:54

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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 07:52:34 (permalink)
    If you go by the book,,,you only need a furtakers license if your not hunting deer or bear and if you don't have a regular hunting license.
     
     
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 08:01:49 (permalink)
    pork, that  explains it all, still waiting for "YOUR AND YOUR BUDDIES WRONG"   good explaination, dr.will have no reply on this one, he is biting his tongue right now, he is addicted to this site, he will be right on it,,waiting call from buddie Heartless...catman, what do you mean???? dont h ave a regular license.
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 08:19:40 (permalink)
    I disagree...kind of...I'm only adding A) below to your qualifiers.

    Going by the book, the only time you need a furtakers license is if:

    A) It's archery season & you want to hunt them with a gun.

    B) It's deer or bear season and you don't have tags for deer/bear. (or have filled said tags)

    ~or~

    C) You don't have a regular hunting license.

    (I actually never knew you could get a furtakers license without having a regular hunting license)

    http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?a=511&q=176494#adultresidentfurtaker <---link

    Learn something new every day.
    post edited by Pork - 2009/09/23 08:38:18

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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 08:23:32 (permalink)
    if you don't have a furtakers license you need a general hunting license and if you don't have a general hunting license you need a furtakers. so basicly you nee one or the other.
     
    maybe i'm wrong,,do you need to have a general hunting license to get a furtakers?
    post edited by CATMAN610 - 2009/09/23 08:25:44
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 08:37:53 (permalink)
    Always thought so, but the way it's written up, I don't think so now....see my link above.

    The way they list all the other licenses (bear, migratory game bird, muzzleloader, ect.)

    Is (In Addition to) general license, like this:

    Resident Bear License: ($16.70) Issued in addition to a general hunting or combination license to resident applicants age 12 and older, who wish to hunt bears during any bear season.

    But, furbearers does not say "in addition to", it reads:

    Types of Furtaker Licenses and Their Costs:


    Adult Resident Furtaker License: ($20.70) Issued to bona fide residents of Pennsylvania ages 17 through 64.


    So, that says to me, it stands separate from general hunting license.

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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 13:20:30 (permalink)
    Riddle me this, batman; what if I am legally hunting deer during archery season with a bow or crossbow but also have a CHL and I am legally carrying a .357 revolver or some other legal hunting handgun?  Can I shoot a coyote with the handgun while I am legally archery hunting?
     
     
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 13:33:20 (permalink)
    Good question.

    Seems like a whole new can of worms you're opening there.

    I would say yes, shoot the 'yote.

    But I'd also put money on a WCO saying you need a furtakers license to discharge a firearm in archery......unless the coyote was attacking you...then it's self defense.

    *disclaimer ~ I'm no WCO and don't even coyote hunt unless one happens by while I'm deer hunting.
    The opinions expressed above are my best attempt at understanding the coyote laws as applied to the original question & eyesandgillz follow up riddle.

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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 14:24:38 (permalink)
    i think the answer would be, yes, if you have a furtakers license..without one no..doc is hibernating again..
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 14:49:00 (permalink)
    good question eyes. i got the permit too and wanted to find that out or it is about pointless for me to even carry while archery hunting 
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 15:04:19 (permalink)
    No, you cannot eyes.

    My reports and advice are for everyone to enjoy, not just the paying customers.
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 15:09:13 (permalink)
    I would say that would be a big negative. From what I understand you are not allowed to carry a gun of any kind while archery hunting.
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 15:24:53 (permalink)
    From page 32 of the digest: Persons hunting deer in the archery seasons may not possess a firearm, except those individuals who have a License to Carry Firearms permit, and then only those firearms authorized by the permit (most
    sporting arms are not authorized).


    Think that is a new law for this year, or may have gone into effect last year.

    As to the legality of using that weapon on a coyote WHILE actively hunting with a bow, even with a furtaker's license, I have no clue how a WCO would interpret that one.
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 15:30:41 (permalink)
    Archery hunters are allowed to carry concealed if they have a License to carry Firearms permit. (self defense)

    However they're not allowed if they only have a "Sportsmans Permit" which only covers 'sporting handguns'.

    BUT, as eyes said, he's carrying a .357 revolver using his CHL. Which could be considered a 'sporting handgun' if he had his 'Sportsmans permit'...but since he has a CHL (concealed/self defense) the only way he could legally dispatch the 'yote would be if it attacked him.

    Deep thoughts with Pork.

    Edited to add: I really don't understand what they mean when they say "most sporting arms are not authorized under the permit"...

    I'm looking at mine right now & it doesn't 'authorize' any gun at all. I understand I can't carry an auto loader on my sportsman's permit, but it seems I can carry any handgun with a license to carry firearms permit...

    Strange wording on that law.
    post edited by Pork - 2009/09/23 15:35:59

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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 16:50:26 (permalink)
    an archer can carry a muzzleloader while archery hunting, with bow, in october season for does only, i do believe that law passed a couple years ago, yes...no....silver..???? so whats the difference pistol/bow...
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 17:54:14 (permalink)

    HOOKED ON PHONICS DOES NOT WORK FOR SOME OF YOU.
    Dr Trout is right. This is the actual clip cut from the PEGC site. Please, Please, Please, read your book before you post a statement that is incorrect. The underlined part states the important part. The rest of it states the exceptions and regulaions while the other seasons are going on. The yotes have some restrictions during the deer, bear, and turkey seasons, but if you are following the regs for that season and have the proper tags for that season you may stick a yote. If you want to get around the season regs for that animal in season, buy a furtakers tag and be done with it. PS best of luck trying to shoot one while wearing 250 inches of orange with in 100 yards.

    ADOPTED 2009-10 FURBEARER HUNTING SEASONS
    COYOTES: No closed season. Unlimited. Outside of any deer or bear season, coyotes may be taken with a hunting license or a furtaker license, and without wearing orange. During any archery deer season, coyotes may be taken while lawfully hunting deer or with a furtaker license. During the regular firearms deer and any bear seasons, coyotes may be taken while lawfully hunting deer or bear, or with a furtaker license while wearing 250 square inches of fluorescent orange. During the spring gobbler season, may be taken by those with a valid tag and meet fluorescent orange and shot size requirements.
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 20:09:41 (permalink)
    pa surfer, thats what we said , must have furtakers, trout said "we were wrong"  but never explained, go back and read the post from the beginning..read the first post i wrote..maybe you should try hooked on phonics..
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/23 21:37:27 (permalink)
    From what I read in surfers last post,,it says hunting license "or" furtakers license. So you do not need a furtakers license to kill a coyote. So must have furtakers would be wrong.
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    RE: Do you know this game law???? 2009/09/24 04:13:24 (permalink)
    catman, no way, lets start again with original question .......first week archery.....walking your rifle in the woods, you see a coyote....you can only shoot it with a furtakers license///hunting license......because you are not legally hunting deer......have no idea what surfer is talking about....he is the one that can't read.....key word is "outside" any deer/bear season....this entire post was about archery season.....if you are hunting squirrel in early season and you see coyote,....only legally allowed to shoot it with a bow.....or if you have a furtakers lic.....read above law.....surfer contradicts what is saying and nothing incorrect was posted.."trouts buddy"....
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